Tommy Robinson to be released from prison early

[proton]

13 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Do you know what a political prisoner is?

 

You obviously don't  😁

[brewsterbudgen]

13 hours ago, proton said:

 

Some of the BBC sex offenders, others like John Peel admitting to abusing 13 year olds were never prosecuted.

 

1. BANKS, TERENCE: 2001: BBC Floor manager and Queen’s verger
2. BARLOW, PHILIP: 2016: (aka Alfie Banna), youth leader in Grace Bible Church, Saltford, appeared on BBC Radio Bristol.
3. BARNARD, JOHN: 2015: Former teacher at Godolphin & Latymer School and musical director for BBC Radio 2’s Sunday Half Hour.
4. BETHELL, BARRY: 2009: DJ at BBC Radio Kent.
5. BRAMBELL, WILFRID: 2012: Actor in BBC’s ‘Steptoe and Son’.
6. BRENNAND, ANDREW: 2010: BBC radio producer
7. BREWER, MICHAEL: 2013: Lead BBC workshops for ‘Last Choir Standing‘.
8. CATTELL, JOHN: 2016: Former Grange Hill & London’s Burning actor
9. CHALKLEY, JAMES: Former BBC Eastenders actor
10. CLARK, GORDON: 1997: Verger of Lancaster Priory – appeared on BBC’s ‘Songs of Praise‘.
11. COOLING, ALISTER: 2009: Former ‘Castaway‘ contestant and Conservative aide to Boris Johnson.
12. COUPER DAVIDSON, COLIN: 2016: BBC Sound Engineer.
13. CROASDALE, PETER: 2009: BBC science producer.
14. DAY, GRAHAM: 2013: Former BBC news editor and Salvation Army member.
15. DEAN, PETER: Former actor on BBC’s ‘Eastenders’, met his second wife when he was 29 and she was 15 and babysitting for an acquaintance.
16. DE’ATHE, WILFRED: Former producer. Allegations dropped against him.
17. DEITCH, MARK: 2016: Former BBC Executive
18. DENNING, CHRIS: numerous: Former BBC Radio 1 DJ.
19. DIGBY, KHRISTIAN: 2010: Host of BBC’s ‘To Buy or Not To Buy‘.
20. DORMAN, BERNARD: 2008: Actor in popular CBeebies programme, ‘Brum‘. (Still on Equity website)
21. DOWNIE, GARY: 2013: Production Manager on BBC’s ‘Doctor Who‘.
22. DRAY, CHRISTIAN: 2005: Set up Missing Persons Helpline, regular guest on BBC’s ‘Crimewatch‘ to help find young runaways, also former PA for Paul Gambaccini.
23. DYMOND, KENNETH: 2016: Detective Constable who appeared on BBC’s ‘The Met – Policing London‘ series.
24. EAMES, LUKE: 2015: Computer shop owner, appeared on CBBC’s ‘Newsbeat‘.
25. EARLE, JOHN: 2017: BBC ‘Jackanory‘ presenter.
26. EBBS, CHRISTOPHER: 2008: Choirmaster whose choirs appeared on BBC TV.
27. EDWARDS, NIGEL: 2006: Former broadcaster with BBC Hereford & Worcester.
28. EVERS, HUGH SIMON: 2011: Former headmaster of a Highgate junior school, and member of BBC’s Audience Council (which monitors broadcasting standards).
29. FREEMAN, ALAN ‘FLUFF’: Former BBC DJ.
30. FOSSEY, ALAN: 2006: Former BBC DJ.
31. HALL, STUART: 2014: BBC Presenter on ‘It’s a Knockout‘.
32. HARRIS, ROLF: 2014: Entertainer. Appeared on BBC’s ‘Animal Hospital‘ as well as numerous other shows.
33. HARRIS, TAYLOR: 2016: Rapper was invited to Radio 1 by BBC despite conviction for abuse.
34. HOPE, JONATHAN/STEVEN: 2014: Former RAF police officer and Football Agent who appeared on BBC Radio 5 Live
35. JEFFRIES, HARRY/OWEN: 1994: Lured young boys with the promise of acting work on ‘Eastenders‘ via James Chalkley
36. JENKINSON, DAMIAN: 2015: Runner-up in BBC ‘Young Gardener of the Year‘
37. KING, JONATHAN: 2001: BBC Radio 1 DJ.  Jailed for his involvement in abuse at the Walton Hop.
38. KING, ROBERT: 2009: Music director, orchestra conductor and BBC presenter.
39. LANGHAM, CHRIS: 2007: BBC actor
40. LUTON, CLIFFORD: 2014: BBC News reporter – case halted as he was deemed ‘unfit’
41. MASSEY, RUPERT J: Showbiz lawyer who abused a boy actor from BBC’s ‘Grange Hill‘ plus others.  Massey went on to receive a payout for breach of his human rights.
42. MCCULLOCH, DEREK: 2012: Voice of Larry the Lamb, BBC Radio’s Children’s Favourites.
43. MCMURDO, CRAIG: 2014: Former BBC radio DJ
44. NATHAN-TURNER, JOHN: 2013: Producer on BBC’s ‘Doctor Who‘.
45. PALMER, JONATHAN: 2007: BBC radio adviser
46. PEEL, JOHN: BBC radio DJ
47. POND, ROGER: 1998: Former BBC Radio Kent DJ
48. RAVEN, JAMES: 2004: BBC Undercover reporter tortured, sexually assaulted and killed a man in front of his kids.
49. REED, REX: 1997: Former BBC Newsreader
50. ROBINSON, DARREN: 2013: Appeared on BBC’s ‘Escape to the Country‘.
51. ROWELL, PETER: 2012: BBC Radio Bristol
52. RUDD, STUART: 2010: ‘BBC Midlands Today’ computer expert.
53. SAVILE, JIMMY: 2013: TV Personality, Radio 1 DJ, friend of the royals and politicians.
54. SHEARER, DARREN: 2013: BBC Engineer
55. SINCLAIR, NIVEN: BBC Chauffeur
56. SMITH, DAVID: 2013: BBC Chauffeur
57. SMITH, MARTYN: 2009: Former BBC sports producer on ‘Match of the Day’.
58. SOUTER, MICHAEL: 2013: DJ, BBC Norfolk
59. STARR, FREDDIE: 2012: Assaulted a girl when he appeared on BBC’s ‘Clunk Click‘ – Jimmy Savile BBC show.
60. STEWART, ED ‘STEWPOT’: Met his wife when he was 34 and she was 13.
61. STRACHAN, IAN: 1999: Children’s author and BBC TV Assistant Director.
62. TERET, RAY: 2014: Former chauffeur of Jimmy Savile, and appeared with him on BBC’s ‘Top of the Pops‘.
63. TRAVIS, DAVE LEE: 2014: BBC DJ
64. TURNER, ROBERT: 2009: Former music teacher & extra on BBC’s ‘Eastenders‘.
65. UNNAMED FOR LEGAL REASONS: 2013: BBC actor
66. UNNAMED FOR LEGAL REASONS: Investigation in to allegations a BBC executive used his Amsterdam flat to film child abuse.
67. WADSWORTH, TONY & JULIE: 2017: Former BBC radio presenters
68. WEINER, NEIL: 2010: Assistant school caretaker and former BBC worker.
69. WESTGAPH, LAURENCE: 2000: BBC TV and BBC Radio 4 broadcaster received a community order for ‘sex with an underage girl’.
70. WILKINS, BENJAMIN: 2010: BBC Producer recorded sexual encounters using a secret camera hidden in a smoke alarm.
71. WILLIS, MICHAEL: 2015: Radio 1

So is Tommy on the list too?  If not, why is this relevant?

[josephbloggs]

6 hours ago, JAG said:

I have little time for Robinson and his views, and am sceptical about claims that Muslims control the CPS and other government and especially judicial agencies.

 

But a soon as I hear the term "gammon" being hurled around by commentators of the "enlightened left" I am reminded why so many recent British "political upsets" have occurred. Many (and I count myself amongst them) are fed up with being dismissed with such contempt. 

 

Just why do you think Reform UK is standing where it is in the polls at present?

No, not everyone is a gammon. People can have different opinions from me and that's OK. You express yourself quite eloquently and can have a discussion - I wouldn't call you a gammon, not at all.

A gammon is someone with illogical and unreasonable hatred for things that they don't really even understand. The type of person that will stand on the shores of Dover and shout at the sea. A gammon gets himself all angry because the "mussies" are 85% of the CPS (even though they are clearly not), and the "mussie network" is ganging up on poor "tommy", and is so angry that they can't even copy and paste a link or back up their claims. 

 

It turns out his anger is because someone told him there's a Civil Service Muslim Network. Imagine that! So I calmly explain there is also a Civil Service Christian Network, and a Jewish one, and a Hindu one, and one for vegans, one for peole going through cancer, one for ex-service people etc etc, Literally dozens of civil service support networks.

The civil service employs around half a million people, so any organisation of that size will have dozens of networks and support groups. Instead of replying "Oh, I see, that makes sense" he doubles down, saying there are too many words to read and railing about "the mussie network" trying to take down "tommy" and he's going to take to the streets. 

A gammon is closed minded, not open to discussion, easily angered, and blinkered. Present logic to them or a counterpoint and they double down on the anger. You can image the red face as he bashes his keyboard with two fingers to rant about "mussies".

I hope that explains the distinction.

[josephbloggs]

2 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

So is Tommy on the list too?  If not, why is this relevant?

There is another list of his close friends who are pedos though, ones that he defended and tried to have freed. Another list of convicted EDL pedos or people associated with the EDL who have been convicted of pedo related crimes. It's quite long too.