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Western Allies Remove Weapon Range Limits in Ukraine Amid Escalating Conflict

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The map is slightly misleading it gives the storm shadow a range of 155 miles  that is from when it is released from the aircraft so if the aircraft flew 100 miles inside Russia it would give it an effective range of 255 miles from Ukraine and so on.

 

If Germany ever supplies the Taurus it has an even longer range and is more powerful.

 

I just hope a way can be found to stop the madness it would have to give Putin a way out a way of saving face as unpalatable as that may be.

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    Fantastic. Time to start bombing Moscow and the Kremlin. And Putin's palaces. 

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13 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

The map is slightly misleading it gives the storm shadow a range of 155 miles  that is from when it is released from the aircraft so if the aircraft flew 100 miles inside Russia it would give it an effective range of 255 miles from Ukraine and so on.

 

If Germany ever supplies the Taurus it has an even longer range and is more powerful.

 

I just hope a way can be found to stop the madness it would have to give Putin a way out a way of saving face as unpalatable as that may be.

 

Drop a big bomb on the kremlin.

17 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Drop a big bomb on the kremlin.

Dont think that would be a wise strategy. Perhaps a better strategy is to target Crimea. Crimea is a staging base and naval stronghold for Russia miltary base and naval control of shipping routes in the Black Sea. The weapon system with longer range will be effective in hitting military and naval targets in Crimea and even the Kerch Strait Bridge which is the main logistic supply route. Reducing Russia superiority in Crimea would be an effective tactic for Kyiv gaining leverage over Kremlin in ceasefire negotiation. 

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1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Dont think that would be a wise strategy. Perhaps a better strategy is to target Crimea. Crimea is a staging base and naval stronghold for Russia miltary base and naval control of shipping routes in the Black Sea. The weapon system with longer range will be effective in hitting military and naval targets in Crimea and even the Kerch Strait Bridge which is the main logistic supply route. Reducing Russia superiority in Crimea would be an effective tactic for Kyiv gaining leverage over Kremlin in ceasefire negotiation. 

Good details, thanks. Hoping Russia is 'defeated' in whatever way in the very near future.

 

I'm guessing many folks (incl. me) are wondering why trump, with all his recent criticisms of putin doesn't provide Ukraine with more / bigger definitive firepower. 

Don't understand why this is necessary. According to what many on here have said Russia is on the brink of collapse. Even MSM are now changing their tune on this delusion. Reality on the battlefield is the front keeps moving forward. Russian artillery, FPV drones and FAB bombs are having a devastating affect. Putin launching massive drone attacks on Kiev seems crazy. No need. Russia is winning the war on the battlefield. This is undeniable.

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

Dont think that would be a wise strategy. Perhaps a better strategy is to target Crimea. Crimea is a staging base and naval stronghold for Russia miltary base and naval control of shipping routes in the Black Sea. The weapon system with longer range will be effective in hitting military and naval targets in Crimea and even the Kerch Strait Bridge which is the main logistic supply route. Reducing Russia superiority in Crimea would be an effective tactic for Kyiv gaining leverage over Kremlin in ceasefire negotiation. 

No way Ukraine could take on a major offensive in Crimea. 

Lifting restrictions is one thing. Supply of long range weapon systems is another. Having said this the war will be won or lost on the battlefield and as I stated above Russia is winning on the battlefield.

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5 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Lifting restrictions is one thing. Supply of long range weapon systems is another. Having said this the war will be won or lost on the battlefield and as I stated above Russia is winning on the battlefield.

There are other factors than the battlefield. 

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57 minutes ago, scorecard said:

Good details, thanks. Hoping Russia is 'defeated' in whatever way in the very near future.

 

I'm guessing many folks (incl. me) are wondering why trump, with all his recent criticisms of putin doesn't provide Ukraine with more / bigger definitive firepower. 

Because he wants to be Putin's friend (for various mysterious reasons). 

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

There are other factors than the battlefield. 

Such as. A major factor on the battlefield in a protracted war of attrition is which side is gaining ground and which side is losing ground. Another major factor is which side can afford to lose more of their infantry. Reality is Russia is consistently gaining ground and Russia has more soldiers to lose with the capacity to replace them. These are the facts of the current state of affairs in this war.

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Such as. A major factor on the battlefield in a protracted war of attrition is which side is gaining ground and which side is losing ground. Another major factor is which side can afford to lose more of their infantry. Reality is Russia is consistently gaining ground and Russia has more soldiers to lose with the capacity to replace them. These are the facts of the current state of affairs in this war.

Such as -- 

the economy

internal political pressures

external pressures such as the now proposed BONE CRUSHING secondary sanctions which will dry up revenue that Russia needs to do wars

Black swans

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Such as -- 

the economy

internal political pressures

external pressures such as the now proposed BONE CRUSHING secondary sanctions which will dry up revenue that Russia needs to do wars

Black swans

Russian economy although under some strain is pumping out weapons. Internal political pressure? Are you talking about Putin or Zelensky? What "BONE CRUSHING" secondary sanctions are you talking about?

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

Russian economy although under some strain is pumping out weapons. Internal political pressure? Are you talking about Putin or Zelensky? What "BONE CRUSHING" secondary sanctions are you talking about?

I get it. You're in a Putin is invincible bubble. He isn't. Not worth my time engaging with someone who narrow mindedly actually believes there is only one factor in wars. Most wars are not decided on the battlefield, btw. 

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17 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I get it. You're in a Putin is invincible bubble. He isn't. Not worth my time engaging with someone who narrow mindedly actually believes there is only one factor in wars. Most wars are not decided on the battlefield, btw. 

The only bubble here mate is the one in your head if you can't admit or recognise that Russia has the upper hand. There's no cheering for one side or the other in my comments. It's simply reality. As for "Most wars are not decided on the battlefield, btw." I guess WWI and the battle against Hitler in Africa, Italy and Europe has slipped your mind.

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