Will there ever be a safe vaccine?

[Hawaiian]

2 hours ago, Stiddle Mump said:

A lot of words there. Most of them nonsense. Much of what you say is science, is nothing of the sort. If you were to look into how the virologists actually sequence a virus, you would see that it simply a fraud.

 

Measles is a set of symptoms that could go under the name of at least half a dozen other so-called 'diseases'. These symptoms are not caused by a virus. They are the body ridding itself of something it don't want. They are evidence that a cure is in operation.

 

As for 5G. Recent studies show that some people suffer greatly when exposed to the frequency. So, I'm asking if it is possible that people who suffered - thinking they had caught C-19 - had gotten 5G poisoning.

 

Turn the router off at night.

 

And for some it has been "reported," 5G affects their brains, causing them to spout out nonsense.

[rumak]

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Another one-liner. Why not debate Trans bud?

 

Science is always ready to be added to. or corrected

 

found a very early photo of the Trans troll .   makes it a bit more understandable why the troll can not create more than one-line dummie lines :

[johng]

17 minutes ago, Hawaiian said:

And for some it has been "reported," 5G affects their brains, causing them to spout out nonsense.

Wifi 2.4   is close to the frequencies used in microwave ovens

for cooking your food..but perfectly safe for your brain  ?

 

"5G"  cell phone stuff  includes frequencies up to 30 gigahertz

 

I'm sure that some people are very sensitive to this microwave energy and who actually knows what the long term effects are on human health ?

[Stiddle Mump]

31 minutes ago, kwilco said:

I really don't know why I bother....

 

“Science is always ready to be corrected” —

 

yes, absolutely. But correction requires evidence, not just vibes and a hunch that measles “isn’t a virus.”

Science updates itself through data, peer review, and rigorous testing — not by someone shouting "I don’t believe in viruses" on a forum. Saying “measles isn’t a virus” isn’t correcting science — it’s denying 70 years of virology, microscopy, and genomic sequencing.

That’s not how science works. That’s how Facebook comment sections work.

Science is updated by looking at new evidence, or revisiting old, which then is subjected to rigorous examination and if found to be sound, becomes scientifically factual. This then becomes accepted as truth.

 

There is not one country in the world that has any record of a virus being isolated and purified. Also asked in FIO requests, were  Johns Hopkins, The CDC, NIH, FDA and the UK regulatory body; MHRA. No luck so far. ALL said they didn't have the evidence.

 

It is so easy to look to people in authority and say they must be right. Cause they say so. However; I'm not so easily fooled.

 

,,,,it’s denying 70 years of virology, microscopy, and genomic sequencing. You simply don't know what you are talking about Sir.

 

 

[DezLez]

1 hour ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Most of the science that surrounds immunology and virology is just made up nonsense.

Just like all your posts.

[rumak]

my goodness.   i just popped in to have a look at the great debate .  Been about a week, and seven pages have been added !      Any converted souls yet ?    hmmm

 

el gato :

"you’ve seen it and felt it 1000 times. some new study on masking to stop covid comes out. basically everyone sees the conclusions and immediately decides if it’s right or wrong before even reading it. they “know” if masks do or do not work and by this point in the game, pretty much no one is changing their mind again. the positions are too dug in.

you accept it or deny it depending on its alignment with your preconception.

cognitive dissonance is an incredibly powerful process and those who are sufficiently committed to some version of reality or self-conception will actively and without a hint of irony or self-awareness reject any and all new data that contradicts their existing beliefs."

 

ok.... poppin out again .   y'all get some fresh air ! 

[Mark Nothing]

King Ahab and Queen Jezebel were considered to be two of the evilest monarchs in the Holy Bible. They had a particularly diabolical spiritual scheme.

 

What was their scam?  Hiring 850 witch doctors to convince the slaves to protect their health and stop the fear of disease via self mutilation. The cash of course flowed nonstop and filled up the royal coffers.  

 

The self mutilating treatments were slicing and dicing human flesh, sacrificing babies and other grotesque poisoning treatments.  Sounds similar to our current system of surgery, vaccination, popping pills and abortion.

 

This current virus scam is a mystical, ethereal affliction that requires a spiritual solution.  It's similar to a grandchild being afraid of ghosts under the bed.  I would guess most of the hypochondriacs afraid of mythical viruses don't know how to protect themselves, so are easy prey, just like the story in 1 Kings.

 

 

 

[kwilco]

47 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Science is updated by looking at new evidence, or revisiting old, which then is subjected to rigorous examination and if found to be sound, becomes scientifically factual. This then becomes accepted as truth.

 

There is not one country in the world that has any record of a virus being isolated and purified. Also asked in FIO requests, were  Johns Hopkins, The CDC, NIH, FDA and the UK regulatory body; MHRA. No luck so far. ALL said they didn't have the evidence.

 

It is so easy to look to people in authority and say they must be right. Cause they say so. However; I'm not so easily fooled.

 

,,,,it’s denying 70 years of virology, microscopy, and genomic sequencing. You simply don't know what you are talking about Sir.

 

 

exact opposite....you're kidding yourslef

You're dismissing 70+ years of virology, microscopy, genome sequencing, and countless peer-reviewed studies because of a few cherry-picked FOI requests and YouTube-level “gotchas.”

Viruses have been isolated, sequenced, and imaged — thousands of times. Just because you don’t understand the methods doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

Skepticism isn’t refusing all evidence. That’s just denial with a thesaurus.

[Stiddle Mump]

2 minutes ago, kwilco said:

Viruses have been isolated, sequenced, and imaged — thousands of times. Just because you don’t understand the methods doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

Simply untrue.

 

There is not one experiment anywhere, that shows a 'virus' (any virus) has ever been found.

 

I'm perfectly aware of the steps taken during the virologist fraudulent tests. Absolutely disgraceful.

[KhaoHom]

On 6/17/2025 at 4:33 PM, gamb00ler said:

All kids should be everybody's kids....  There's still time for you to join the human race.

 

Takes a village??

 

Nah