12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve never heard the term ‘raping aged males’

 

Do you have link to what this is?

 

 

 

Just to be clear, you need to a link to help you understand what this means?  With the largest word being 6 characters long?  

34 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I’ve never heard the term ‘raping aged males’

 

Do you have link to what this is?

 

 

 

You know exactly what it means. Do some research on Age and Sexual Recidivism. There is even a nice graph on the publicsafety.gc.ca website if the words are too long. 

 

Strange that a so called feminist would be more concerned with the feelings of some blokes sat in a hotel than young girls and women being raped in their communities.

 

The lack of morality amongst modern Liberals is astounding. You always manage to pick the wrong side. 

34 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

Makes you scratch your head, and ponder, why the screaming lunatics, who are supposed to be in charge of the UK cannot get that into their thick skulls.

 

 

The crazy thing is that European governments have actively gone out to recruit foreign workers to bring in more migrants.

 

So in addition to refugees and asylum seekers governments spend money on recruitment drives that result in millions of people migrating to European countries.

 

To politicians, already having received the jab of "diversity good", looking at pension figures and employment figures, this makes perfect sense. Because they look at the short term. Not the long term.

On 7/19/2025 at 2:31 AM, Bday Prang said:

Its actually frightening to see what the government is allowing to happen .    The question is "Why? "  Surely not for fear of criticism from a vocal lefty minority.  What is the real reason ?      And how come the lefty counter protesters are never far away, who organises and pays those idiots, They won't be doing it for free?   Wouldn't surprise me if they were receiving tax payers money somewhere along the line 

The protestors are often funded by outside entities that wish to destabilize the UK. Much of the information they rely on is fabricated or embellished and disseminated by foreign agents and non residents.

 

My comments in no way excuses the deplorable actions of the UK government, nor minimizes the crisis. The biggest  failure is the refusal to be open and honest about what they are doing. If the government (both present and past) had been transparent , much of the problem could be better managed. The people of the UK also have to accept responsibility for the mess. They refused to allow the government to deport people. It was UK citizens who disrupted deportation flights and it was UK citizens who interfered with interdiction efforts. Tough measures are required and the people have to accept that. Everyone has a sob story. The violent criminals always have a humanitarian grounds with which to stay. It has to stop.

46 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

You know exactly what it means. Do some research on Age and Sexual Recidivism. There is even a nice graph on the publicsafety.gc.ca website if the words are too long. 

 

Strange that a so called feminist would be more concerned with the feelings of some blokes sat in a hotel than young girls and women being raped in their communities.

 

The lack of morality amongst modern Liberals is astounding. You always manage to pick the wrong side. 

There’s plenty of evidence in the research of men committing rape and other sex crimes, although I’m not aware of any research indicating there is an age range in which men commit rape and sex crimes and beyond which they do not.

 

I’m not at all sure what your reference to ‘so called feminist’ is, though I expect it’s just another something you’ve dreamt up.

 

17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There’s plenty of evidence in the research of men committing rape and other sex crimes, although I’m not aware of any research indicating there is an age range in which men commit rape and sex crimes and beyond which they do not.

 

It's not a case of stopping at a certain age, it's the rate at which they commit offenses by age bracket. So yes, these men are indeed in the most dangerous bracket. 

 

 

 

17 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

 

I’m not at all sure what your reference to ‘so called feminist’ is, though I expect it’s just another something you’ve dreamt up.

 

 

Yes I won't refer to you as a feminist again. You clearly have no care whatsoever for the safety of women and young girls. I guess as far as you are concerned they just have to take one for the team for the cult of Diversity. Revolting. 

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

It's not a case of stopping at a certain age, it's the rate at which they commit offenses by age bracket. So yes, these men are indeed in the most dangerous bracket. 

 

 

 

 

Yes I won't refer to you as a feminist again. You clearly have no care whatsoever for the safety of women and young girls. I guess as far as you are concerned they just have to take one for the team for the cult of Diversity. Revolting. 

 

That graph, the perps, they are almost entirely all male.

 

Can you please provide a link to the source so we check what else it has to tell us.

 

 

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

Yes I won't refer to you as a feminist again. You clearly have no care whatsoever for the safety of women and young girls. I guess as far as you are concerned they just have to take one for the team for the cult of Diversity. Revolting. 

The above slur is entirely a fabrication of your own mind and thereby a product of your own thinking, nothing whatsoever to do with me.

 

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There’s plenty of evidence in the research of men committing rape and other sex crimes,

 

Sure

 

Argue with this

 

 

Just to help you out.

 

If you have an argument, it is with Centre of Migration Control, by using various methods, including freedom of Information requests, compiled the graph.

 

 

6 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

Sure

 

Argue with this

 

 

Just to help you out.

 

If you have an argument, it is with Centre of Migration Control, by using various methods, including freedom of Information requests, compiled the graph.

 

 

Can please provide a link to the actual report.

19 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Can please provide a link to the actual report.

 

Contact the Centre for Migration Control.

 

I'm confident that their contact details will be available on their website.

Just now, The Cyclist said:

 

Contact the Centre for Migration Control.

 

I'm confident that their contact details will be available on their website.

Because you ran with what the far from reliable GB News told you the CMC had to say.

 

 

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Because you ran with what the far from reliable GB News told you the CMC had to say.

 

 

 

Read, digest and comprehend

 

28 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

If you have an argument, it is with Centre of Migration Control, by using various methods, including freedom of Information requests, compiled the graph.

 

2 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

Contact the Centre for Migration Control.

 

I'm confident that their contact details will be available on their website.

 

Clear and concise. Anyone can understand the above, even you.

16 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

Read, digest and comprehend

 

 

 

Clear and concise. Anyone can understand the above, even you.

I did read, and noticed it was second hand information presented by a TV channel with a history far from reliable reputation.

 

Not everyone comprehends the distinction between reliable and unreliable sources.

 

So I then asked for you provide a link to the source report.

 

It’s not much to ask.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I did read, and noticed it was second hand information presented by a TV channel with a history far from reliable reputation.

 

Not everyone comprehends the distinction between reliable and unreliable sources.

 

So I then asked for you provide a link to the source report.

 

It’s not much to ask.

 

 

You usually come up with that kind of excuse when protecting your foreign chums.........🤥

Plus, you do not watch videos regarding news, remember......🤔

12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I did read, and noticed it was second hand information presented by a TV channel with a history far from reliable reputation.

 

Not everyone comprehends the distinction between reliable and unreliable sources.

 

So I then asked for you provide a link to the source report.

 

It’s not much to ask.

 

 

 

Here you go:

 

https://www.migrationcentral.co.uk/p/up-to-third-of-sexual-assaults-committed

 

On 7/20/2025 at 9:44 AM, quake said:

Australian Pm, Tony Abbott, stopped the boats almost over night.

it cost him his job, but what a great service he did for the Australian people.

What do we have in the uk, weak, useless,  snow flakes running the show.

That's past and present governments.

Just a total disgrace, they have let the Uk be invaded like this.

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, it worked. But a very different scenario because of the much longer voyage from Indonesia, so easier to control.

 

 

24 minutes ago, transam said:

You usually come up with that kind of excuse when protecting your foreign chums.........🤥

Plus, you do not watch videos regarding news, remember......🤔

Not my chums and it wasn’t a video.

 

Do at least try to keep up.

On 7/20/2025 at 9:49 AM, BKKBike09 said:

If this (or the previous) government wanted to try and damp down public anger at uncontrolled (illegal) migration, why don't they present information on the employment status of these migrants at 12 / 24 /36 months after arrival in UK. We've got 1000s of civil servants engaged on DEI and the like, so make it part of their job description to gather this info.

 

Break it down into:

 

1. Nature of employment - full-time; part-time; unemployed

2. Type of employment - professional services; healthcare; manual labour etc

2. Salary bracket - higher rate taxpayer; lower-rate taxpayer; earnings below taxable threshold

 

That would help to counter some of the 'far Right rhetoric' about immigrants not contributing etc. Assuming of course that the data shows they are contributing ...

 

 

 

That would mean that illegal immigrants would have to have their rights (to remain and work and to benefits) approved in short order. Some of them might become productive but many probably still would not - most illegal  immigrants do not contribute positively to the economy or anything else. This would reward many illegals with legal status, which, even if temporary, is hard to remove once given.

 

Given the amount of anger about this already in the UK, this is a bad idea.

20 minutes ago, RAZZELL said:

 

Here you go:

 

https://www.migrationcentral.co.uk/p/up-to-third-of-sexual-assaults-committed

 

A lot of adding unknown nationalities into ‘foreign’.

Perhaps the kind of nonsense we should expect from an organization that hides its membership and funding.

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

A lot of adding unknown nationalities into ‘foreign’.

Perhaps the kind of nonsense we should expect from an organization that hides its membership and funding.

 

A simple search with AI results:

 

Migration Central's funding comes from a mix of sources, primarily academic research grants and charitable foundations. Specific examples include grants from the abdrn Financial Fairness Trust, Barrow Cadbury Trust, Esmée Fairbairn Foundation, and Paul Hamlyn Foundation, among others. The organization also receives funding from research grants through entities like the Economic and Social Research Council, Engineering and Physical Sciences Research Council, and Oxford University's John Fell Fund

 

 

20 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Yes, it worked. But a very different scenario because of the much long voyage from Indonesia, so easier to control.

 

Yes very true.

 

I thought I would read all the post's first to get a feel of this thread. Firstly I agree migrants that could be beneficial should be welcome like nursing, and Social Care. However these accepted, must have Doccumentation and adequete paperwork to work in the UK. They dont need to come via the Channel with no paperwork.

Only people suffering from civil wars or threats to life should be welcomed, by this I mean Afgahns that helped the UK fighting the Taliban and Isis and now there life being threatened and some fleeing wars in African Country's that we know civil wars are occuring.

At first we tried putting them in old Army bases that were decommissioned or old Ferries and Barges moored offshore, but the bleeding hearts stopped this saying it was cruel and inhuman. We spent Millions Converting a barge called the Bibby containing all new Cabins this was deemed unfit so it was towed away. So now we have Thousands coming in every week. So far 25,000 this year, they are given fresh clothes immediatly leaving the dock at Dover and held in a centre until a Coach picks them up to move them around the Country usually in the early hours so there not noticed by the locals in there small towns and villages. They come without doccumentation or any papers, so we are in the Blind who has just been placed in our town. Thousands are now delivering food on new bikes paid for by who ? Most do not have licenses to work so there breaking the law. When we finally have the chance to deport criminals for sex crimes the Human rights lawyers fight there deportation with escusses such as they will be threatened in there country of origin or they were unaware they were commiting a crime and for reasons unknown woke judges agree there human rights have been compromised. Once here they are allowed to bring there offspring into the country because its unfair to keep them apart. Once there allowed to stay there offered a house which could be next door to you and if you complaine you are reported and accused of spreading Racial hatred, so you can't win. Back to hotels, what we know now is busloads of Antifa and rent a mob are deliberatly placed where locals are demonstrating outside hotels to cause trouble thus blaming everyone of belonging to the far right wing. This is what happened outside the Bell hotel in Epping Forest and the Soutport Riots. The goverment has lost the borders now and have little chance of stopping the illegal migrants entering and we have had enough. Its only a matter of time before we take the law into our own hands specially if Attacks on kids start arising more.

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

I thought I would read all the post's first to get a feel of this thread. Firstly I agree migrants that could be beneficial should be welcome like nursing, and Social Care. However these accepted, must have Doccumentation and adequete paperwork to work in the UK. They dont need to come via the Channel with no paperwork.

 

You are conflating two separate issues.

 

Issue 1. Is the 25,000 undocumented illegal immigrants that have came over the Channel in 6 1/2 months of 2025.

 

Issue 2. There are millions of migrants who have come legally through work visa's.

 

Hence the UK has 1 million foreigners claiming £7.5 billion a year in UC. This is also a net drain on the UK.

 

We should not be bringing in people from abroad, to work, who need UC. We have over 1 million unemployed and 1.2 million 16 - 24 year old NEETS.

 

These NEETS and the unemployed are the people that should be doing the jobs that need topped up by UC.

 

To get back on topic.

 

Another night of unrest in Epping last night.

 

And a thought occurred to me. Starmer has been silent.

 

I think he has already accepted, that it is all falling apart, under his watch.

He has given up Cyclist its lost. If he was questioned about it he would just blame the Tories and keep repeating the same old b/s he is smashing the boats. He has not even mentioned it over the weekend.

On 7/18/2025 at 11:18 PM, webfact said:

Picture courtesy of Daily Mail online

 

The Bell Hotel, once a picturesque establishment on the edge of Epping Forest, now lies at the centre of a storm raging through the UK over immigration. The hotel, which hosts about 100 asylum seekers, has recently become a flashpoint for violent protests following allegations of sexual offences against one resident. This incident has sparked an uproar, revealing deep-seated frustrations within this leafy Essex village that mirror a wider national sentiment.

 

On a quiet Thursday afternoon, the scene outside The Bell Hotel quickly transformed as demonstrators gathered, spurred on by messages circulating on local WhatsApp groups. Drivers honked their support, while shouts of “send them home” rang out. The anger and tension in the air were palpable. Local workers, mistaken for being associated with the hotel, faced harassment throughout the day. “People are so angry,” one worker shared, highlighting the animosity sparked by ongoing political and social frustrations.

 

The Bell Hotel is one of at least 220 hotels across the UK being used by the government to house asylum seekers. This measure began as a temporary solution during the COVID-19 pandemic but has since extended beyond its original scope. The influx has strained local communities, particularly in Epping, where the demographic is not particularly ethnically diverse. The arrest of an asylum seeker for allegedly assaulting two young girls has only exacerbated tensions, leading to two violent protests in a matter of weeks.

 

 

According to reports from May, the UK government’s spending on asylum accommodation is expected to rise to £15 billion over the next ten years, a significant increase from initial estimates. With over 21,000 migrants having crossed the Channel in small boats this year—a 56% increase from the same period last year—the pressure on government officials to find workable solutions is mounting.

 

Last Sunday, clashes erupted outside The Bell as anti-migrant protesters and counter-demonstrators faced off in a chaotic scene, resulting in injuries to security guards. The accused migrant, 38-year-old Hadush Gerberslasie Kebatu, faces allegations of sexual assault, which he denies. His upcoming trial next month keeps the community on edge.

 

Social media has played a crucial role in fueling the unrest, with calls for demonstrations quickly gaining traction. When Thursday’s protest began, approximately 300 people were present, but what started peacefully soon turned hostile. Families and individuals with legitimate concerns mingled with more aggressive participants, showcasing the complexity of the issue.

 

Picture courtesy of Daily Mail online

 

Orla Minihane, a finance worker and local council candidate, attended the protest as a mother concerned for her children’s safety. “This isn’t about politics,” she insisted. “It’s about ensuring our children’s safety.” Her sentiments echoed through the crowd, reflecting the genuine fear gripping many residents.

 

However, the protest quickly attracted attention from groups seeking to exploit the unrest for their political aims. Known figures, including controversial YouTubers and organisations with explicit anti-immigration stances, descended on Epping. As rumours about a counter-protest by “lefties” spread, tension escalated to violence. Riot police fought to maintain control, with several officers sustaining injuries amidst the chaos.

 

Assistant Chief Constable Stuart Hooper condemned those disrupting what was meant to be a peaceful protest. He urged locals to ensure that their legitimate voices were not drowned out by a violent minority. Meanwhile, Essex Police confirmed two arrests linked to public order offences.

 

Councillor Chris Whitbread joined in the condemnation, expressing disappointment over the outbreak of violence and calling for calm within the community. As he pointed out, the Bell Hotel’s role in housing asylum seekers has exposed underlying divisions within Epping that risk further escalation if not addressed.

 

Social media has become a battleground of its own, where attempts to voice support for asylum seekers are often met with hostility. On Epping’s high street, the vibrant atmosphere of cafes and shops now buzzes with intense debate. Many residents feel the community’s very character is under threat, while others express empathy towards the migrants seeking refuge.

 

Epping Forest MP Neil Hudson called on Home Secretary Yvette Cooper to close The Bell Hotel immediately, citing its draw for anti-asylum protesters as a danger to public safety. With tensions threatening to spill beyond Epping, the hotel’s closure is seen as a necessary step to prevent further violence.

 

Yet, this incident in Epping is merely a microcosm of the broader challenges facing the UK in managing its immigration crisis. With political and social pressures mounting, the government faces increasing calls for decisive action to address the root causes of these tensions.

 

As communities like Epping grapple with the realities of the UK’s immigration policies, the need for balanced solutions is critical. The events at The Bell Hotel underscore the urgency for dialogue and cooperation between local authorities, residents, and government officials. Without concerted efforts, the unrest that has unfolded in Epping could become a precursor for similar incidents nationwide.

 

In conclusion, the situation at The Bell Hotel highlights the complex challenges surrounding immigration in the UK. The mix of genuine concerns, political exploitation, and misinformation creates an explosive environment that requires thoughtful resolution. As the nation watches, Epping's experiences may well shape future discussions on how the UK addresses its immigration dilemma.

 

  Adapted by ASEAN Now from Daily Mail 2025-07-19

 

 

Did the newest British Sweetheart Elen Degenerate and other show up on either side? Wonder if it's dawning on her yet? Please keep her lads, we don't want her back.

What disturbed me was the sight of the police van driving full pelt at the protesters.

24 minutes ago, lungbing said:

What disturbed me was the sight of the police van driving full pelt at the protesters.

 

Drone no fly zone has now been imposed. I wonder why 😀😀

 

 

3 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

 

You are conflating two separate issues.

 

Issue 1. Is the 25,000 undocumented illegal immigrants that have came over the Channel in 6 1/2 months of 2025.

 

Issue 2. There are millions of migrants who have come legally through work visa's.

 

Hence the UK has 1 million foreigners claiming £7.5 billion a year in UC. This is also a net drain on the UK.

 

We should not be bringing in people from abroad, to work, who need UC. We have over 1 million unemployed and 1.2 million 16 - 24 year old NEETS.

 

These NEETS and the unemployed are the people that should be doing the jobs that need topped up by UC.

 

To get back on topic.

 

Another night of unrest in Epping last night.

 

And a thought occurred to me. Starmer has been silent.

 

I think he has already accepted, that it is all falling apart, under his watch.

 

Starmer's goose was cooked after the Southport cover-up and totally obliterated by the end of the super-injuction against the reporting of Afghani immigrants, facilitated by the MOD.

 

Even though that was perpetrated by the Tories, the public will perceive him as being in charge when it came to light.

 

Both parties are now unelectable. Immigration will decide the next election.

 

However, we are at a tipping point where civil war is now a real possibility in the UK, and either remigration, or a total destruction of the country as we know it, is now inevitable.

1 minute ago, Mr Meeseeks said:

 

Starmer's goose was cooked after the Southport cover-up and totally obliterated by the end of the super-injuction against the reporting of Afghani immigrants, facilitated by the MOD.

 

Even though that was perpetrated by the Tories, the public will perceive him as being in charge when it came to light.

 

Both parties are now unelectable. Immigration will decide the next election.

 

However, we are at a tipping point where civil war is now a real possibility in the UK, and either remigration, or a total destruction of the country as we know it, is now inevitable.

 

Hard to find disagreement, in any of your comment.