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BBC Hit by New Allegation of Misleading Edit to Trump Speech

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Accusations of misleadingly editing Donald Trump's 6 January 2021 speech have embroiled the BBC in controversy. This comes two years after a similar incident on Panorama led to high-profile resignations. The clip, which aired on Newsnight in 2022, faced criticism for the way it was edited, with challenges emerging during a live broadcast.

 

The incident has sparked a significant backlash, resulting in the resignations of the BBC's director general, Tim Davie, and head of news, Deborah Turness. Furthermore, Donald Trump's legal team has issued a legal threat against the BBC, demanding a $1 billion (approximately 37.7 billion Thai baht) lawsuit unless they retract and apologise for the edits. The alleged misleading depiction involved the amalgamation of separate parts of Trump's speech, altering its context and impact.

 

In Trump's original speech, he called for supporters to "cheer on" lawmakers before saying, "And we fight. Later in his address, he declared, "We fight fiercely." The Panorama programme notably juxtaposed these segments, suggesting a more inciting message. On Newsnight, while the edit differed slightly, it still faced scrutiny. Additional criticism arose from former White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, who highlighted the separation of these statements in the original speech.

 

The BBC acknowledged the situation, with a spokesperson stating, "The BBC holds itself to the highest editorial standards. We have brought this matter to our attention and are currently investigating it. Trump's legal team claims a pattern of defamation from the BBC, adding further fuel to ongoing tensions.

 

The controversy coincides with internal disputes at the BBC, as a leaked memo suggested Panorama misled viewers by manipulating Trump's speech to imply a call for violence during the Capitol riots. The revelation led to allegations that the BBC halted a discussion, reported the BBC.

 

Looking ahead, the BBC faces mounting pressure to address these editorial discrepancies. With the 2024 US presidential election approaching, the timing of the broadcast and ensuing fallout becomes increasingly significant. The situation may impact future corporate policies and trust between media entities and public figures.

 

 

Key Takeaways

 

  • The BBC faces backlash for editing Trump's speech, leading to resignations.
  • Legal challenges from Trump claim $1 billion in damages due to defamation.
  • Internal criticisms at the BBC point to broader editorial issues.


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Sorry, it won't go anywhere. Trump has no cards. He can't pull the BBC's broadcast license.

 

No lawsuit has been filed also.

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Excellent, its get better and better, the BBC is in very deep DOO DOO!

 

A 2022 episode of BBC's Newsnight program, where footage of Donald Trump's January 6, 2021, speech was spliced together to imply he was directly inciting violence at the U.S. Capitol. This came to light amid the broader BBC-Trump dispute over a similar edit in a 2024 Panorama documentary, amplifying accusations of systemic bias and "reckless disregard" by Trump's legal team. The edit was not flagged to viewers as cut, creating a false narrative of continuity.This incident was initially overlooked but resurfaced as evidence of a "pattern," strengthening Trump's $1B–$5B lawsuit threat. 
Go get em Mr. President!!
 
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BlackBeltBarrister posted an update clip this morning (Nov 15):

 

“The Newsnight chyron has turned this from a strong case into an open-and-shut malice finding. If it goes to a Florida jury now, the BBC loses and loses big. Settlement is the only rational option left.”

 

Steven Barrett, Steven Barrett (another barrister YouTuber) said essentially the same: “This second mistake is catastrophic — malice is now undeniable.”

 

Bottom line
Before Newsnight: malice was very provable.
After Newsnight: malice is legally inevitable if it reaches a courtroom.The BBC’s only play left is to settle fast and for a lot more money (£75–150 million range now being quoted) to avoid discovery and a malice verdict that would trigger total insurance denial and reputational annihilation.They’re not just in deep <deleted> any more — they’re drowning.:clap2:

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11 minutes ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

BlackBeltBarrister posted an update clip this morning (Nov 15):

 

“The Newsnight chyron has turned this from a strong case into an open-and-shut malice finding. If it goes to a Florida jury now, the BBC loses and loses big. Settlement is the only rational option left.”

 

Steven Barrett, Steven Barrett (another barrister YouTuber) said essentially the same: “This second mistake is catastrophic — malice is now undeniable.”

 

Bottom line
Before Newsnight: malice was very provable.
After Newsnight: malice is legally inevitable if it reaches a courtroom.The BBC’s only play left is to settle fast and for a lot more money (£75–150 million range now being quoted) to avoid discovery and a malice verdict that would trigger total insurance denial and reputational annihilation.They’re not just in deep <deleted> any more — they’re drowning.:clap2:

I'd love to see the literal purveyors of fake news falter.

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4 minutes ago, riclag said:

I'd love to see the literal purveyors of fake news falter.

 

Fox News and GB News?

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There once was a time when the BBC brand was synonymous for integrity, truth, impartiality and intelligent reporting.

Now all these attributes have turned into the opposite in the few years since they substituted merit for diversity.

I guess it's all about priorities...

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46 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

 

Fox News and GB News?

They are not the ones about to be sued, by President Trump?

3 hours ago, klauskunkel said:

There once was a time when the BBC brand was synonymous for integrity, truth, impartiality and intelligent reporting.

Now all these attributes have turned into the opposite in the few years since they substituted merit for diversity.

I guess it's all about priorities...

Looking at the list of BBC controversies since the 1920's it would appear that only decade without any controversies was the 1940's

Here is some noticeable ones

1982 Falklands War

 Shortly before the attack on Goose Green, the BBC broadcast that an attack was imminent and that the 2 Para regiment were within five miles of Darwin. According to Woodward, there "are still some who believe that BBC report was directly responsible for the Argentinian 'ambush' in which Colonel Jones and many others died. Standing in the Ops Room of Hermes on the day the BBC effectively informed the Args of our position and bearing, 

July 2007: A Year with the Queen

A 60-second trailer was shown at the BBC1 autumn launch in London on 11 July. The trailer showed two clips of Queen Elizabeth II; one in which she tells photographer Annie Leibovitz that she will not remove her crown to make the scene look "less dressy", and another in which the Queen says "I'm not changing anything. I've done enough dressing like this".[88]

The shots in the trailer were edited out of sequence, making it appear as if the Queen had abruptly left the photo shoot, when in fact, the second shot showed her entering the shoot. BBC 1 Controller Peter Fincham told journalists at the launch that it showed the monarch "losing it a bit and walking out in a huff".[89]

October 2012: Jimmy Savile abuse scandal

In early October 2012, it was found that a Newsnight investigation to allegations of sexual abuse by the late Jimmy Savile had been shelved shortly before it was due to be broadcast

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC_controversies#Early_years

Libel is a rich man's game and Trump is a rich man with what appears to be a cast-iron case; however, the idea that damages will be anything like $1bn must be pie in the sky. Even a settlement figure of £75m seems excessive.

 

If my understanding is correct, damages will be based largely on three factors: (1) Actual harm to reputation (2) Financial losses (3) Emotional distress caused.

 

(1) Has Trump's reputation suffered? These programmes - aired +/-2 years ago - were effectively unknown in the US until recently. Did Trump's reputation suffer since they were aired - or will it in the future - as a direct result of these programmes? Extremely unlikely. Moreover, not that Trump will probably care much, but if the case does go to court, Trump's previous 'inconsistencies' will be brought to light which presumably will be a mitigating factor in any award.

 

(2) Financial losses: Have there been any to date? Trump won the presidency so the programmes had no direct effect on his career (or earnings). Damage to future earnings? Hard one to prove.

 

(3) Emotional distress: More contentious and subjective, but £75m, let alone $1bn, is an awful lot of distress.

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On 11/14/2025 at 3:31 AM, webfact said:

Donald Trump's legal team has issued a legal threat against the BBC, demanding a $1 billion (approximately 37.7 billion Thai baht) lawsuit unless they retract and apologise for the edits.

 

Is that the presidential exchange rate? 🤔

Headlines from the BBC.....

 

BBC now faces tough legal battle with world's most powerful man. What happens next?

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy0yz5r8lypo

 

Looks like popcorn time???😅

On 11/14/2025 at 3:31 AM, webfact said:

BBC Hit by New Allegation of Misleading Edit to Trump Speech 

Bloody woke, lefties running media. 

 

Go Donald, sue their arses, $5B

Suing them will teach them a lesson 

 

 

18 hours ago, Smokey and the Bandit said:

They are not the ones about to be sued, by President Trump?

Correct.  I wish someone would sue them for their fake news, but not everyone is as ridiculously litigious as Trump!

1 hour ago, SAFETY FIRST said:

Suing them will teach them a lesson 

This would be President Trump's third $multi-billion media complaint as President (WSJ and NYTimes) and, as plaintiff, Mr. Trump has yet to sit for a deposition.

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(President Trump) called the edit "egregious" and "worse than the Kamala thing", a reference to a dispute he had with US news outlet CBS over an interview on the 60 Minutes programme with his 2024 election opponent Kamala Harris.

Trump says he will sue BBC for at least $1bn over Panorama edit

 

NB The Harris dustup was on CBS' 60 Minutes the #1 news program in US and was carried by over 200 US based CBS television stations and affiliates.

 

The BBC Panorama  program was only available in US via VPN or to registered American voters who were in UK when the Panorama program was broadcast a few days before the US election and saw it before sending their absentee ballots.

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7 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Correct.  I wish someone would sue them for their fake news, but not everyone is as ridiculously litigious as Trump!

Fox paid $750m from a jury trial over the Dominion voting machine lies. Everybody that had settled with Trump so far has done so because the $15m or so they paid was less than the lawyers would have cost to litigate. Hardly an admission of anything.

On 11/15/2025 at 12:57 PM, brewsterbudgen said:

 

Fox News and GB News?


English is simple, did you not understand ?

23 hours ago, RayC said:

Libel is a rich man's game and Trump is a rich man with what appears to be a cast-iron case; however, the idea that damages will be anything like $1bn must be pie in the sky. Even a settlement figure of £75m seems excessive.

 

If my understanding is correct, damages will be based largely on three factors: (1) Actual harm to reputation (2) Financial losses (3) Emotional distress caused.

 

(1) Has Trump's reputation suffered? These programmes - aired +/-2 years ago - were effectively unknown in the US until recently. Did Trump's reputation suffer since they were aired - or will it in the future - as a direct result of these programmes? Extremely unlikely. Moreover, not that Trump will probably care much, but if the case does go to court, Trump's previous 'inconsistencies' will be brought to light which presumably will be a mitigating factor in any award.

 

(2) Financial losses: Have there been any to date? Trump won the presidency so the programmes had no direct effect on his career (or earnings). Damage to future earnings? Hard one to prove.

 

(3) Emotional distress: More contentious and subjective, but £75m, let alone $1bn, is an awful lot of distress.


1) Thats incorrect. the edited versions were all over social media and on the National news. The original disappeared almost entirely and what took its place were clips from the BBC's version. Never showing the entire speech again

 

2) Absolutely, be pretty easy to show you had to spend an extra 300million to fight the fake story

3) Easy enough to prove, look at the social media post from him and how he was mentally impacted.  He said the right things at the right time and this is a slam dunk.


I hope he makes them go to court, i'd understand why you'd not do that but he wont bankrupt them unless it comes out in the judicial system.

21 hours ago, Slowhand225 said:


1) Thats incorrect. the edited versions were all over social media and on the National news. The original disappeared almost entirely and what took its place were clips from the BBC's version. Never showing the entire speech again

 

2) Absolutely, be pretty easy to show you had to spend an extra 300million to fight the fake story

 

"All over social media and on the National news". Not until this last month. 

 

I very much doubt that anything like $300m has been spent by Trump in countering this misinformation.

 

21 hours ago, Slowhand225 said:

 


3) Easy enough to prove, look at the social media post from him and how he was mentally impacted.  He said the right things at the right time and this is a slam dunk.

 

I disagree. Outside of medical bills to cope with the stress caused which is easily quantifiable, any award will be based on subjective factors, although I assume that a judgement will be based on precedent if it exists.

 

As I said previously, £75m is an awful lot of emotional stress 

 

21 hours ago, Slowhand225 said:


I hope he makes them go to court, i'd understand why you'd not do that but he wont bankrupt them unless it comes out in the judicial system.

 

If it does go to court - which I doubt -  presumably Trump may need to testify? Cross-examination could prove embarrassing for him (although I accept that Trump doesn't seem to be easily embarrassed).

 

Airing these misleading programmes was wrong and the BBC (and the individuals involved) need to be held to account, however, imo the financial punishments being banded about seem excessive. 

 

As is the case more often than not, time will time.

18 minutes ago, RayC said:

 

"All over social media and on the National news". Not until this last month. 

 

I very much doubt that anything like $300m has been spent by Trump in countering this misinformation.

 

 

I disagree. Outside of medical bills to cope with the stress caused which is easily quantifiable, any award will be based on subjective factors, although I assume that a judgement will be based on precedent if it exists.

 

As I said previously, £75m is an awful lot of emotional stress 

 

 

If it does go to court - which I doubt -  presumably Trump may need to testify? Cross-examination could prove embarrassing for him (although I accept that Trump doesn't seem to be easily embarrassed).

 

Airing these misleading programmes was wrong and the BBC (and the individuals involved) need to be held to account, however, imo the financial punishments being banded about seem excessive. 

 

As is the case more often than not, time will time.

If it does go to court in the US It will be the jury that decides the amount of damages

I sure it will come up that this is the 2nd time that the BBC spliced Trumps speech and on the 1st occasion

BBC defence of accidental error within the Panorama 2024

Trump splicing 1st time Newsnight 2022

Trump splicing 2nd time Panorama 2024

Trump splicing 1st time Newsnight 2022 caught out live 

A former White House chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, criticised the BBC on air at the time for splicing together the footage.

“Your video actually spliced together the presentation,” he said. “That line about ‘and we fight and fight like hell’ is actually later in the speech.”

That and  broadcast of misleading footage in a promotional trailer of the Queen at a press launch by showing  out of sequence footage

BBC1 chief forced to resign over 'Crowngate'

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2007/oct/06/themonarchy.bbc

4 hours ago, vinny41 said:

If it does go to court in the US It will be the jury that decides the amount of damages

I sure it will come up that this is the 2nd time that the BBC spliced Trumps speech and on the 1st occasion

BBC defence of accidental error within the Panorama 2024

Trump splicing 1st time Newsnight 2022

Trump splicing 2nd time Panorama 2024

Trump splicing 1st time Newsnight 2022 caught out live 

A former White House chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, criticised the BBC on air at the time for splicing together the footage.

“Your video actually spliced together the presentation,” he said. “That line about ‘and we fight and fight like hell’ is actually later in the speech.”

That and  broadcast of misleading footage in a promotional trailer of the Queen at a press launch by showing  out of sequence footage

BBC1 chief forced to resign over 'Crowngate'

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2007/oct/06/themonarchy.bbc

 

Fair enough but in the absence of any evidence to the contrary, I still it hard to believe that Trump has spent anything like $300m directly countering the BBC misinformation: I also maintain that £75m - let alone £xbn - is an awful of 'emotional trauma'. However, as you rightly say, a court will decide if it goes that far.

 

Again, to repeat: Imo the BBC and the individuals responsible for these errors need to be held accountable, but a counter argument to the precedent re the late Queen is to point out that the BBC produces +/-120 hours of content every day and the number of items which contain deliberate misinformation/ manipulation of the facts is tiny in comparison.

11 hours ago, RayC said:

Again, to repeat: Imo the BBC and the individuals responsible for these errors need to be held accountable, but a counter argument to the precedent re the late Queen is to point out that the BBC produces +/-120 hours of content every day and the number of items which contain deliberate misinformation/ manipulation of the facts is tiny in comparison.

 

Plenty of examples. A few high profile ones spring to mind.

 

  • Misleading Edit of Donald Trump's January 6 Speech (2024/2025 crisis): 
  • Gaza: How to Survive a Warzone Documentary (2025): 
  • Primark and Child Labour Fake News (2008): 
  • Lord McAlpine Falsely Implicated (2012): 
  • Martin Bashir Interview with Princess Diana (1995/2021): 
  • Inaccurate Reporting during Gaza War (2023): 
  • The Hutton Inquiry (2003/2004): 
  • Coverage of Nigel Farage's Bank Account (2023)

A pattern of deliberate misinformation. 

 

Defund it. If they want to lie to us at least let us decide whether we want to pay for those lies. 

13 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Plenty of examples. A few high profile ones spring to mind.

 

  • Misleading Edit of Donald Trump's January 6 Speech (2024/2025 crisis): 
  • Gaza: How to Survive a Warzone Documentary (2025): 
  • Primark and Child Labour Fake News (2008): 
  • Lord McAlpine Falsely Implicated (2012): 
  • Martin Bashir Interview with Princess Diana (1995/2021): 
  • Inaccurate Reporting during Gaza War (2023): 
  • The Hutton Inquiry (2003/2004): 
  • Coverage of Nigel Farage's Bank Account (2023)

A pattern of deliberate misinformation. 

 

Defund it. If they want to lie to us at least let us decide whether we want to pay for those lies. 

 

11 examples covering 30 years, so that's 1 per 30*365+a bit*120/11 hours of news coverage. Doesn't exactly suggest a culture of bias and systematic lying.

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