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I don’t believe that any document released will damage Trump for the simple reason that any document that would damage Trump will not be released. Trump is up to his neck in Epstein sleaze, but to be frank the culprits are on both sides of the aisle, Democrats and Republicans. 

3 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

I don’t believe that any document released will damage Trump for the simple reason that any document that would damage Trump will not be released. Trump is up to his neck in Epstein sleaze, but to be frank the culprits are on both sides of the aisle, Democrats and Republicans. 

Can you verify any Democrats that are caught up in this other than Slick Willy Clinton? I'd be interested to hear those names and how you found out.

15 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

I don’t believe that any document released will damage Trump for the simple reason that any document that would damage Trump will not be released. Trump is up to his neck in Epstein sleaze, but to be frank the culprits are on both sides of the aisle, Democrats and Republicans. 

The damage to Trump comes from the now undeniable cover up.

 

56 minutes ago, Wingate said:

MAGAs have a choice, neither of which is good for the brand.

 

It's an undeniable fact that Trump and Epstein were close friends for several decades.

 

So...either Trump knew full well about Epstein's behavior and still called him "a great guy", or else Trump is such a poor judge of character that he never picked up on Epstein's behavior. In other words, Trump is an idiot.

 

Those are the two 'best case' scenarios.

 

Worse scenarios are that Trump participated.

 

BTW, ANYBODY who participated plus anybody who knew the truth yet chose to ignore it, should face consequences.

If you find evidence that Epstien had his fist inside Trump controlling him in real time - an actual puppet - like he was caught doing with democrat Stacey Plaskett please wake us up. You did make a 10,000 word diatribe about how disgusting it was that Epstein was controlling democrats, right? Oh i see 🤣

On 12/14/2025 at 4:53 PM, Yagoda said:

I only pay attention to the Real Clear Politics average, otherwise, polls are polls.

Why pay attention to only one biased source? Ever considered thinking outside your box?

Images released by the Justice Department

Here is list of what has been released. 

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/12/17/jeffrey-epstein-files-records-timeline/87716818007/

 

 

9 minutes ago, TedG said:

Images released by the Justice Department

 

Clinton wouldn't surprise.  Nor Summers.  Nor Trump, even though there is clearly nothing or it would have been leaked already so he's in the clear.  But Branson having sex with teens is a bridge too far.

3 hours ago, HappyExpat57 said:

While I admire your enthusiastic optimism, the reality is he is above the law. SHOULD he go to jail? Many times over YES! Will he go to jail? The wealthy rarely suffer from the justice the little people are yoked with. Hell, the wealthy WRITE the laws and this sob has the courts, from the Supremes on down, in his pocket. As well, he has an army of zombie lemmings who would set the country on fire if that happened.

 

If you could reason with MAGA people then there wouldn't BE any MAGA people.

He is only above the law for duties carried out as President. If he is proven to have done anything criminal in those Epstein files, he will follow Ghislaine Maxwell.

Don't forget, it is MAGA who have also been calling for the promised release of those files, and they will turn on him in disgust if there is proof of anything really bad.

But the DOJ are busy redacting everything before release, so who knows what the public will see.

3 minutes ago, phetphet said:

He is only above the law for duties carried out as President. If he is proven to have done anything criminal in those Epstein files, he will follow Ghislaine Maxwell.

Don't forget, it is MAGA who have also been calling for the promised release of those files, and they will turn on him in disgust if there is proof of anything really bad.

But the DOJ are busy redacting everything before release, so who knows what the public will see.

 

I wish you were right but history has taught us he is a Teflon Don. A search by Grok for the crimes has has committed and should have been jailed for is interesting - I won't bother wasting electrons posting them here, you can see for yourself. He should have been jailed years ago and, if not for his team of lawyers and judges in his pocket, he most certainly would have been one of Ghislaine Maxwell's closest neighbor.

 

On your point of MAGA disgust, this might be the feather that broke that camel's back. Notice the sound of crickets coming from the red hat brigade today?

 

Our best hope for full disclosure is for Democrats to take back the House and Senate (looking more each day as a probability) to get to the facts.

 

 

JUST IN: Ghislaine Maxwell has asked a federal court to vacate or amend her conviction and 20-year prison sentence for sex-trafficking of minors and other offenses, a move that could complicate the release of the Epstein files as mandated by a new law.

 

I find the timing of her announcement WAY too suspicious.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/epstein-associate-ghislaine-maxwell-asks-court-set-aside/story?id=128086043

Still too much redactions. 

I really don't think that the Epstein files will make any difference in the current political landscape.  At this point people are totally polarized about Trump.  As he said himself, he could shoot a man in broad daylight in the middle of the street and his followers would be ok with it.  On the other hand, in the very unlikely case of his economic policies actually helping the US, his detractors would still think that he is a POS.

2 hours ago, Wingate said:

BTW, ANYBODY who participated plus anybody who knew the truth yet chose to ignore it, should face consequences.

 

10000 % 

1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

 

 

 

Our best hope for full disclosure is for Democrats to take back the House and Senate (looking more each day as a probability) to get to the facts.

 

 

Remind me of your democrats approval rating please? Oh don't bother Ill spare you 

 

"Just 18 percent of respondents approve of the job congressional Democrats are doing, according to a Quinnipiac survey released Wednesday, while 73 percent disapprove."

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5653760-congressional-democrats-approval-poll-midterms/amp/

 

They are as likely to win the house and senate as Puff Daddy is. Sorry to bring you back to earth so brutally.

20 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Remind me of your democrats approval rating please? Oh don't bother Ill spare you 

 

"Just 18 percent of respondents approve of the job congressional Democrats are doing, according to a Quinnipiac survey released Wednesday, while 73 percent disapprove."

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5653760-congressional-democrats-approval-poll-midterms/amp/

 

They are as likely to win the house and senate as Puff Daddy is. Sorry to bring you back to earth so brutally.

You’ve not been following recent election results have you?

 

10 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You’ve not been following recent election results have you?

 

Don't think they matter, Trump can't run again, why would he care?

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Don't think they matter, Trump can't run again, why would he care?

Nobody has told HIM he can't run again, and I believe to the bone he's going to try. He's making WAY TOO MUCH MONEY influencing political policies to quit now. This always begs the question, "How much is enough?"

2 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Don't think they matter, Trump can't run again, why would he care?

Because the whole of the GOP can see the same recent election results.

 

Trump’s failures are costing Republicans their seats in special elections Toom’s across the U.S. 

 

Republicans in both houses are absolutely thinking what that means for them.

 

That’s how a President becomes a lame-duck.

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Because the whole of the GOP can see the same recent election results.

 

Trump’s failures are costing Republicans their seats in special elections Toom’s across the U.S. 

 

Republicans in both houses are absolutely thinking what that means for them.

 

That’s how a President becomes a lame-duck.

But Trump gets to serve out his term ....... so he doesn't care.

Not to mention all the presidents turn out as 'lame ducks'.

Donald J Trump the most transparent President in American History.......

 

 

 

https://archive.md/Voj1R

 

32 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You’ve not been following recent election results have you?

 

If you are talking about in the UK, no because didn't your sir kier cancel elections? So democratic I can see why you support Labor 😅

 

"Scared!' Fury as Keir Starmer moves to cancel yet more local elections despite promise"

https://www.newspointapp.com/english/city/scared-fury-as-keir-starmer-moves-to-cancel-yet-more-local-elections-despite-promise-reachdailyexpress_english/articleshow/145048201f4e3938213b277da4188470a33786a3#google_vignette

3 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

If you are talking about in the UK, no because didn't your sir kier cancel elections? So democratic I can see why you support Labor 😅

 

"Scared!' Fury as Keir Starmer moves to cancel yet more local elections despite promise"

https://www.newspointapp.com/english/city/scared-fury-as-keir-starmer-moves-to-cancel-yet-more-local-elections-despite-promise-reachdailyexpress_english/articleshow/145048201f4e3938213b277da4188470a33786a3#google_vignette

Why would I be taking about the UK in a thread discussing the Epstein files, Trump and US polls?

 

Of course you are in need of a deflection, I am not.

12 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Donald J Trump the most transparent President in American History.......

 

 

 

https://archive.md/Voj1R

 

And in this he has scripted the material to attack him from all sides of the political spectrum.

 

’What is Trump hiding and why?’.

 

 

5 hours ago, liddelljohn said:

DT is up to his neck in the epstein swamp ,,   he will fall far like Andrew mountbatten  windsor ,, but in USA he will eventually  end up in jail ... as the US justice  system will burn him ...

Other members of the toxic elite  will follow him in disgrace from wall st , the media, republicans , celebs, lawyers and Democrats  ..LOL  then USA will regain some sanity .

Seems the lawyers are having an early Xmas !

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

And in this he has scripted the material to attack him from all sides of the political spectrum.

 

’What is Trump hiding and why?’.

 

When a proven sex-offending criminal has already amassed 34 felony convictions, the burden isn’t proving he’s hiding something — it’s explaining why anyone’s surprised about it.

1 hour ago, LosLobo said:

When a proven sex-offending criminal has already amassed 34 felony convictions, the burden isn’t proving he’s hiding something — it’s explaining why anyone’s surprised about it.

 

This was soooooooooo predictable. All the powerful pedos and rapists must be protected at any price, especially the orange one.