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22 minutes ago, RayC said:

You appear to be replying to yourself.

What do you have to offer to the discussion thats rockin UK politics now?

Google ai overview:

Questioned Judgement: Prime Minister Keir Starmer is facing intense criticism for appointing Mandelson to the Washington post despite known ties to Epstein, a decision that has escalated into a major crisis for his government

12 minutes ago, riclag said:

What do you have to offer to the discussion thats rockin UK politics now?

Google ai overview:

Questioned Judgement: Prime Minister Keir Starmer is facing intense criticism for appointing Mandelson to the Washington post despite known ties to Epstein, a decision that has escalated into a major crisis for his government

Do you have any thoughts or opinions of your own rather than constantly posting pointless "AI overviews" when nobody knows what your prompt was? Absolutely valueless tosh and I don't know why it is tolerated here.

Post an opinion, or post a source, that is how discussions work.

9 hours ago, riclag said:

What do you have to offer to the discussion thats rockin UK politics now?

Google ai overview:

Questioned Judgement: Prime Minister Keir Starmer is facing intense criticism for appointing Mandelson to the Washington post despite known ties to Epstein, a decision that has escalated into a major crisis for his government

Imo the Sky Australia piece is a good precise of the Mandelson affair but to suggest, as you do that, only the " alternative news outlets (Sky News is alternative?) that report on the obvious elephant in the room despite the international left media ignoring it", is complete and utter nonsense.

There is head-to-toe coverage of this news in the media - UK and international - be that print, podcast or TV and irrespective of whether the media outlet is politically left, right or centre leaning.

The Greens backed by Jewish leader Zack Polanski are likely win today's by-election - inshallah and Jeremy our hero has given it his blessing.

Zack Polanski was born David Paulden on 2 November 1982^[1] in Salford, Greater Manchester. His Jewish family had moved to the UK from Poland, but originated from Latvia which they fled to escape pogroms (initially to Ukraine, then to Poland)^[2][3] in the early twentieth century and had adopted the surname of Paulden in hopes of evading antisemitism.^[4][5] His parents divorced when he was young.^[6] At age 18, he changed his name, restoring his familial name of Polanski, later saying it was important for him to take pride in his identity.^[4] He also changed his first name, selecting Zack in homage to the Jewish character of the same name from the novel Goodnight Mister Tom, and to differentiate himself from his stepfather, also named David.^[5]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zack_Polanski

The scandal continues for the Starmer cabal according to the report, Starmer's far leftism caused a backlash that, combined with policy missteps and a centrist shift alienating the party's base, has fueled his plummeting popularity and set the stage for a nail biter .

"He now faces new danger from a special election Thursday in northwest England, where his center-left Labour Party could face defeat in a three-way race with the hard-line anti-immigration party Reform UK and the self-styled “eco-populist” Green Party.

Losing to either would drive home to Labour members how unpopular the prime minister is with voters on both left and right"

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/united-kingdom/uk-leader-starmer-faces-electoral-test-epstein-scandal-shakes-grip-pow-rcna260773

1 hour ago, riclag said:

The scandal continues for the Starmer cabal according to the report, Starmer's far leftism caused a backlash that, combined with policy missteps and a centrist shift alienating the party's base, has fueled his plummeting popularity and set the stage for a nail biter .

"He now faces new danger from a special election Thursday in northwest England, where his center-left Labour Party could face defeat in a three-way race with the hard-line anti-immigration party Reform UK and the self-styled “eco-populist” Green Party.

Losing to either would drive home to Labour members how unpopular the prime minister is with voters on both left and right"

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/united-kingdom/uk-leader-starmer-faces-electoral-test-epstein-scandal-shakes-grip-pow-rcna260773

Riclag once again exposing his ignorance and lack of knowledge of anything outside of gunracks, banjo playing and spitting in buckets - calling Starmer and Labour far left and centre left in the same garbled post.

Some off topic posts and the replies have been removed.

Starmer is our Teflon Don, Two Tier keir, never here keir are just a few nicknames he has. He just blames past governments or disapears on jolly's at the Tax payers expense. When trouble is brewing, he pulls out Lammy who even forgot to wear a poppy on rememberence day.

Good News for Reform , and bad news for Left. Historical . Guess he coudn't overcome the scandals.

British prime minister suffers embarrassing election defeat in stronghold to Green Party

 

"Prime Minister Keir Starmer’s Labour Party suffered an embarrassing election defeat on Friday in an area of Greater Manchester that it had dominated for almost a century, a loss that underscores the breakdown of Britain’s two-party politics"

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/27/uk/britain-starmer-labour-defeat-hnk-intl

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Good News for Reform , and bad news for Left. Historical . Guess he coudn't overcome the scandals.

British prime minister suffers embarrassing election defeat in stronghold to Green Party

 

"Prime Minister Keir Starmer’s Labour Party suffered an embarrassing election defeat on Friday in an area of Greater Manchester that it had dominated for almost a century, a loss that underscores the breakdown of Britain’s two-party politics"

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/27/uk/britain-starmer-labour-defeat-hnk-intl

Riclag's "news" source is running on a couple of days delay....

And how exactly is it good news for Reform? They lost to one of the tiniest parties in the country.

3 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Riclag's "news" source is running on a couple of days delay....

And how exactly is it good news for Reform? They lost to one of the tiniest parties in the country.

Reform supporters are not the brightest. Maybe best to let them believe that the result was "good news"!

On 2/28/2026 at 2:48 PM, riclag said:

Good News for Reform , and bad news for Left. Historical . Guess he coudn't overcome the scandals.

British prime minister suffers embarrassing election defeat in stronghold to Green Party

 

"Prime Minister Keir Starmer’s Labour Party suffered an embarrassing election defeat on Friday in an area of Greater Manchester that it had dominated for almost a century, a loss that underscores the breakdown of Britain’s two-party politics"

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/02/27/uk/britain-starmer-labour-defeat-hnk-intl

Update: In addition to the scandal rockin the PM, turning a blind eye to the Epstein warnings , according to his x staffer who resigned because of the scandal.

"The files make clear that Sir Keir ignored the warnings after his then-chief of staff, Morgan McSweeney, and former director of communications, Matthew Doyle, who was described in the documents as a “personal friend” of Lord Mandelson, appeared to give support to the Labour peer".

https://www.the-independent.com/news/uk/politics/mandelson-papers-kier-starmer-epstein-warnings-b2936632.html

1 hour ago, riclag said:

Update: In addition to the scandal rockin the PM, turning a blind eye to the Epstein warnings , according to his x staffer who resigned because of the scandal.

"The files make clear that Sir Keir ignored the warnings after his then-chief of staff, Morgan McSweeney, and former director of communications, Matthew Doyle, who was described in the documents as a “personal friend” of Lord Mandelson, appeared to give support to the Labour peer".

https://www.the-independent.com/news/uk/politics/mandelson-papers-kier-starmer-epstein-warnings-b2936632.html

How many times is Starmer mentioned in the Epstein files? How many times did he go on his jet?

The answer to both is zero. How about if we ask the same questions of your demi-God?

I find it hard to believe that riclag is here having a go at Starmer for Epstein related transgressions. Actually, no, it's easy to believe as the emperor has new clothes and riclag thinks they look AMAZING!!

Skynews hitting the Starmer scandal hard,Mandelson got a severance package despite Starmer saying he was let go. Let that sink in .

‘Biggest liar in the world’: Starmer under fire after new Mandelson revelations come out

On 2/7/2026 at 4:23 PM, riclag said:

As a result of Jeffrey Epstein related documents and emails,the Economist reports.

Its being described as Britain's worst political scandal of this century, with The Economist calling the Mandelson /Epstein affair a threat to Sir Keir Starmer’s premiership as a political embarrassment escalates into a criminal investigation.

Britain’s worst political scandal of this century

"The Mandelson affair threatens Sir Keir Starmer’s premiership"

https://www.economist.com/britain/2026/02/04/britains-worst-political-scandal-of-this-century

This century maybe but .....

You obviously weren't around during the Profumo affair!

Worst ?

1 hour ago, Jim Blue said:

This century maybe but .....

You obviously weren't around during the Profumo affair!

Worst ?

Just different. Keeler was above the age of consent and not trafficked for hire.

14 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

How many times is Starmer mentioned in the Epstein files? How many times did he go on his jet?

The answer to both is zero. How about if we ask the same questions of your demi-God?

I find it hard to believe that riclag is here having a go at Starmer for Epstein related transgressions. Actually, no, it's easy to believe as the emperor has new clothes and riclag thinks they look AMAZING!!

His hypocrasy knows no bounds.

He's a staunch Trump fan who will hear nothng bad said about his beloved leader even though the guy is all over the Epstein files, trying desperately to try and paint Starmer as equivalent.

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.

1 hour ago, johnnybangkok said:

His hypocrasy knows no bounds.

He's a staunch Trump fan who will hear nothng bad said about his beloved leader even though the guy is all over the Epstein files, trying desperately to try and paint Starmer as equivalent.

The cognitive dissonance is strong with this one.

Best you and I part ways, be kind & be respectful . The topic is Starmer,the left’s boogieman has dominated the Soapbox threads .

More on the severance demands nearly £550,000 initially sought by Mandelson, ultimately settled at £75,000.

About Starmer:

"He must rue the day he ever let Lord Mandelson back into government. But it's very difficult to see how he can make it right"

https://news.sky.com/story/no-smoking-gun-but-eyewatering-sums-of-money-the-first-drop-of-the-mandelson-files-13518412

On 2/7/2026 at 4:23 PM, riclag said:

As a result of Jeffrey Epstein related documents and emails,the Economist reports.

Its being described as Britain's worst political scandal of this century, with The Economist calling the Mandelson /Epstein affair a threat to Sir Keir Starmer’s premiership as a political embarrassment escalates into a criminal investigation.

Britain’s worst political scandal of this century

"The Mandelson affair threatens Sir Keir Starmer’s premiership"

https://www.economist.com/britain/2026/02/04/britains-worst-political-scandal-of-this-century

This century maybe but .....

You obviously weren't around during the Profumo affair!

Worst ?

7 hours ago, nauseus said:

Just different. Keeler was above the age of consent and not trafficked for hire.

Not really , Starmer is accused of bad judgement

while Mandy is accused of peddling state secrets.

Age got nothing to do with it .

1 hour ago, Jim Blue said:

This century maybe but .....

You obviously weren't around during the Profumo affair!

Worst ?

Not really , Starmer is accused of bad judgement

while Mandy is accused of peddling state secrets.

Age got nothing to do with it .

You mention the Profumo affair, then the Mandelson affair and then ask a question. Then, in your reply to my post, you compare Starmer with Mandy without mentioning either Profumo (or Epstein).

Both may have involved bad judgment and state security issues but only one may have involved the trafficking and peddling of minors. Of course the age of those kids is relevant and that would be the worst case.

Starmer is a civil servant rather than a leader. He dithers and prevaricates, sits on the fence then U-turns at the slightest opposition. He reverts to legalese as soon as the going gets tough. None of this means he is a bad person or that he lacks integrity.

His large parliamentary majority has worked against him. His opponents within his own party, generally to his left, feel they can act with impunity and are emboldened by his lack of courage.

They will strike at a time of their own choosing and when they do, Starmer is toast. At the moment, they are happy to dictate government policy from the back benches knowing that Starmer has no stomach for the fight.

1 hour ago, Briggsy said:

Starmer is a civil servant rather than a leader. He dithers and prevaricates, sits on the fence then U-turns at the slightest opposition. He reverts to legalese as soon as the going gets tough. None of this means he is a bad person or that he lacks integrity

The Romanian rent boys indicates he's a bad person.

Just like Blair's 'cottaging' conviction indicates he's a bad person.

And Mandelson underage sex indicates he's a bad person.

Labour is made up of bad people.

The current war is godsent to all the flops and failures, governing their nations all over the West.