March 5Mar 5 Just now, IsmeUno said:I think you've gone a bit off-kilter.Ask AI to help you troll better.
March 5Mar 5 1 minute ago, IsmeUno said:It appears that we aren't on the same page...1 minute ago, IsmeUno said:It appears that we aren't on the same page...No, it would be an honor to die for my country, I have shingles, gaut etc.Had a hard life, to die as cripple is nothing for me, considered volunteer in Ukraine... Lying in bed with dementia is nothing for me.. My father told me 15 years ago...this is the last time we see each other.. He knew he had starting dementia.
March 5Mar 5 7 minutes ago, khaosokman said:Ask AI to help you troll better.Off kilter is a scot naked?
March 5Mar 5 On 3/4/2026 at 3:56 PM, khaosokman said:Many farangs are scumbags. Pattaya is full of them.Yes, Pattaya attracts scumbag from abroad, but also from all over Thailand. Thais kinda know or assume that Pattaya is full of dumb farangs that can be scammed, cheated, taken advantage of in some way. That attracts those Thais that are more than willing to use and exploit others for financial gains. From ladyboys that pickpocket or Rob Indians, to barworkers that "love" a dozen different "fiances" from 4 different continents, to shortchanging 7/11 cashiers, which has never happened to me outside of Pattaya.
March 5Mar 5 34 minutes ago, PoorSucker said:No, it would be an honor to die for my country, I have shingles, gaut etc.Had a hard life, to die as cripple is nothing for me, considered volunteer in Ukraine... Lying in bed with dementia is nothing for me.. My father told me 15 years ago...this is the last time we see each other.. He knew he had starting dementia.That reply wasn't to you. It was an unrelated line of conversation. @khaosokman threw in an inappropriate remark about war zones, which led to the confusion.
March 5Mar 5 41 minutes ago, PoorSucker said:Off kilter is a scot naked?I sincerely hope that you are fantasising about female Scots...otherwise perhaps it's not AI that is gay 😊
March 5Mar 5 36 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:I sincerely hope that you are fantasising about female Scots...otherwise perhaps it's not AI that is gay 😊They all look the same 😄
March 5Mar 5 After years of on-and-off experimenting, I can't say I'm a big advocate of tipping. Yes, I still do it in certain situations, but I'm not known as a tipper. And I'm comfortable with that.First of all, it's not really a part of Thai culture - even today. You may engender obsequious and servile faux gratitude for handing out tips, but in general, unless you do it very consistently and steadily ramp up the amount given over time, you are just as likely to engender well-justified (albeit hidden) resentment that you are only doing it to play the good-hearted farang and to feel better about yourself, rather than being motivated out of goodwill for your fellow man.Another problem, especially in a close-knit community, is that it can breed resentment amongst anyone who hears about your generosity but has never been on the receiving end of your largesse. While no one is going to say this to your face, it is also entirely possible that your tipping will not so much be perceived as generosity but an attempt to "buy" social stature and acceptance, or raise questions about whether you have a pitying attitude towards them. Also, it can make you a target by making you appear to be a "soft touch" when it comes to being asked to loan money which will likely never be paid back.I'm not trying to discourage anyone from tipping here, but I'm less than convinced that tossing money around in handouts is the route to establishing mutually respectful relationships between foreigners and locals.
March 5Mar 5 1 minute ago, Gecko123 said:After years of on-and-off experimenting, I can't say I'm a big advocate of tipping. Yes, I still do it in certain situations, but I'm not known as a tipper. And I'm comfortable with that.First of all, it's not really a part of Thai culture - even today. You may engender obsequious and servile faux gratitude for handing out tips, but in general, unless you do it very consistently and steadily ramp up the amount given over time, you are just as likely to engender well-justified (albeit hidden) resentment that you are only doing it to play the good-hearted farang and to feel better about yourself, rather than being motivated out of goodwill for your fellow man.Another problem, especially in a close-knit community, is that it can breed resentment amongst anyone who hears about your generosity but has never been on the receiving end of your largesse. While no one is going to say this to your face, it is also entirely possible that your tipping will not so much be perceived as generosity but an attempt to "buy" social stature or raise questions about whether you have a pitying attitude towards them. Also, it can make you a target by making you appear to be a "soft touch" when it comes to being asked to loan money which will likely never be paid back.I'm not trying to discourage anyone from tipping here, but I'm less than convinced that tossing money around in handouts is the route to establishing mutually respectful relationships between foreigners and locals.I think selective tipping is ok but thats it. You are better off being kind to people and only tip if extra service. Like a driver that goes out of their way to help you.
March 5Mar 5 On 3/4/2026 at 1:45 PM, orchidfan said:Coming from the "Land Downunder" we are not known for our generosity in tipping....If at all.Back in Oz, it's not really expected as staff are generally well paid and looked after.But occasionally for outstanding service or assistance Aussie's will tip.But here, I've given, what I think are a few well placed Tips (just peanuts to us really), and all have paid back handsomely.Tha parking guy at a local private hospital I frequent occasionally I gave B20 to a couple of times...and got to park right outside the main entrance.Subsequent visits he moves orange cones to usher me into a prime parking spot. Good investment.Similarly, the guy manning the crosstalk from outside carpark into shopping mall,I give B20 to as I walk past him holding the traffic.He ALWAYS stops the traffic and takes my shopping trolley across the road when ever he sees me .For $A1??? Each time !!The ladies who sweep the footpaths outside the houses in our Moo Baan, in 37deg heat, I always tip....despite the feint protests.Outside our house is spotless!For the young security guys at the entrance to same moo baan, I often buy cans of chilled coffee or 'energy' drinks.They salute as I drive in, many times walk out into the main road to stop traffic so I can turn right and enter.Plus, they will order me a taxi if needed, arriving within minutes and explain to the driver where I want to go.The guy who sells bottles of gasoline nearby gets to keep the change any time I top up the m/c.Again, if I'm headed back home, he walks out into the quite busy 2 lane road and stops traffic in both lanes to let me in.I'd often be waiting ages for a break in similar situations unless I did the crazy Thai m/c rider's style and just pull out & Uturn in front of the maniac car drivers.Just a few examples of (very) small money being returned many fold with a smile.I learned from people to always tip no matter what the service was like when I was in Canada and realized that it is just as important here.In Canada he explained you tip to show your reaction to the service and meal. If you don't tip then they don't know. Friends used to laugh at me when i would eat a meal and leave a nickel (5cents) for a meal, While the next restaurant I would leave a dollar at least.Here I find the tipping does as OP says and opens doors. There are many locations that I go to, and I am always greeted warmly and never really have to tell them what I want. I rarely have to walk to the mototaxi stand as when they see me they come and get me. Tipping also ensures that I am not just a Farang and that they treat me better than any joe waling off the street.
March 5Mar 5 2 hours ago, PoorSucker said:Had lights go out on my motorbike Aerox 155.Drove to ProBike near my work in Nong Prue.Young gay checked all my safety, change the faulty one.Didn't want anything for work so tip box it went.Did you seek out the young gay or was it a chance meeting ?
March 5Mar 5 Sometimes i tip the staff at my regulear hotel in Bangkok. Maybe 100.baht to each for exellent service. I wanted to eat a good hamburger from mcdonalds and i asked the manager where it was.She just told me to give her money and she went and bougth it for me.I gave her the exchange what i think was about 150 baht. She was wery grateful same i was for the service.
March 5Mar 5 6 hours ago, Ralf001 said:Did you seek out the young gay or was it a chance meeting ?Why do you want to know?
March 5Mar 5 18 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:I agree, I tipped the dental specialist yesterday, poor people.I mean 300 dollars a month and he puts in root canals ..patheticI gave him 20 bahtI tipped the lady sweeping the street and she immediately threw all the trash back into the gutter and went to buy lao khao.
March 5Mar 5 On 3/4/2026 at 6:36 PM, georgegeorgia said:Your a "people pleaser " , expecting of course something in return and the moment they don't give you anything back you will be bitchingThe usual a/hole comment.
March 6Mar 6 15 hours ago, Purdey said:Ate in a small restaurant with three finance guys in the US. One of them paid for the food and left a tip.Outside, the waitress ran screaming at us for not leaving enough. I think we gave her another few bucks to stop her shouting. Do customers need this screaming?I used to ask waitresses in New York if (1) they would prefer tips or (2) a decent wage so they wouldn't need tips.Guess which they all (100% of them) preferred?Just a guess, but if you are too cheap to tip them you would be too cheap to pay a decent wage if you employed them.This is the classic tightwad response to any tipping discussion.
March 6Mar 6 1 hour ago, scottiejohn said:Is that what you useI'm old. I can't exercise. I joined a forum many years ago. I blame Trump.
March 6Mar 6 On 3/4/2026 at 1:45 PM, orchidfan said:Coming from the "Land Downunder" we are not known for our generosity in tipping....If at all.Back in Oz, it's not really expected as staff are generally well paid and looked after.But occasionally for outstanding service or assistance Aussie's will tip.But here, I've given, what I think are a few well placed Tips (just peanuts to us really), and all have paid back handsomely.Tha parking guy at a local private hospital I frequent occasionally I gave B20 to a couple of times...and got to park right outside the main entrance.Subsequent visits he moves orange cones to usher me into a prime parking spot. Good investment.Similarly, the guy manning the crosstalk from outside carpark into shopping mall,I give B20 to as I walk past him holding the traffic.He ALWAYS stops the traffic and takes my shopping trolley across the road when ever he sees me .For $A1??? Each time !!The ladies who sweep the footpaths outside the houses in our Moo Baan, in 37deg heat, I always tip....despite the feint protests.Outside our house is spotless!For the young security guys at the entrance to same moo baan, I often buy cans of chilled coffee or 'energy' drinks.They salute as I drive in, many times walk out into the main road to stop traffic so I can turn right and enter.Plus they will order me a taxi if needed, arriving within minutes and explain to the driver where I want to go.The guy who sells bottles of gasoline nearby gets to keep the change any time I top up the m/c.Again, if I'm headed back home, he walks out into the quite busy 2 lane road and stops traffic in both lanes to let me in.I'd often be waiting ages for a break in similar situations unless I did the crazy Thai m/c rider's style and just pull out & Uturn in front of the maniac car drivers.Just a few examples of (very) small money being returned many fold with a smile.I don’t which part of Australia you are from but in all the years I lived there tipping was always practiced, in my experience Australians are generous in that regard.
March 6Mar 6 20 hours ago, IsmeUno said:You may wish to edit... 😊You may wish to use a bit of intelligence and just read what was more than likely meant 😅20 hours ago, IsmeUno said:
March 6Mar 6 5 hours ago, cdemundo said:Just a guess, but if you are too cheap to tip them you would be too cheap to pay a decent wage if you employed them.This is the classic tightwad response to any tipping discussion.There are certainly tight arse people involved in this thread, considering most of the people they might get involved with on a daily basis, the doorman, security guy, the cleaner, the wait staff at the small restaurant who are probably working 10 /12 hours a day for Bht 200 /300 a day, and they're too miserable to leave a small tip and probably the ones who scream and complain about poor service - mean lousy tight arses.
March 6Mar 6 18 hours ago, Ralf001 said:Did you seek out the young gay or was it a chance meeting ?It's closest to my work
March 6Mar 6 1 hour ago, Artisi said:There are certainly tight arse people involved in this thread, considering most of the people they might get involved with on a daily basis, the doorman, security guy, the cleaner, the wait staff at the small restaurant who are probably working 10 /12 hours a day for Bht 200 /300 a day, and they're too miserable to leave a small tip and probably the ones who scream and complain about poor service - mean lousy tight arses.I realize this thread is in the Pattaya forum and tipping is probably more prevalent there than it is in many parts of Thailand. In rural Thailand I don't interact with doormen, or security guards because there aren't any. There's a security guard at my bank who holds the door open when I enter the premises. It has never even crossed my mind to give him a tip, and I'm sure it has never crossed the mind of 99.99% of the Thai customers either. Same is true for Thai customers of hole-in-the-wall noodle shop restaurants. I give New Year's tips to bottled water delivery, septic pump, and package delivery guys. If someone hops on their motorcycle to guide me to an out of the way place I'm looking for, I'll certainly offer them a tip.It's not a question of being a "mean lousy tight a$$," as you put it, it's that the culture in smaller towns and villages is different. Of course, on some level, everyone appreciates being handed money unexpectedly, but as I pointed out in my earlier post on page 5, indiscriminate tipping to "grease the wheels" so to speak, does raise expectation management issues over time. It's not Just all rainbows and unicorns as the OP's post would have one believe.Not that it's likely to change your point of view, but Google is telling me that the minimum wage in Pattaya (high tourist area/elevated cost of living) is currently 400 baht a day, based on a 8 hour work day, and just as a reminder, there are probably some broke-ass foreigners in Pattaya living on not much more per month. So I guess what I'm trying to say is that you might want to tone down the self-righteous knight-in-shining-armor rhetoric.
March 6Mar 6 1 hour ago, StevieAus said:I don’t which part of Australia you are from but in all the years I lived there tipping was always practiced, in my experience Australians are generous in that regard.Really ! Never heard of it in AustraliaWho would I tip in Australia?2 hours ago, Artisi said:There are certainly tight arse people involved in this thread, considering most of the people they might get involved with on a daily basis, the doorman, security guy, the cleaner, the wait staff at the small restaurant who are probably working 10 /12 hours a day for Bht 200 /300 a day, and they're too miserable to leave a small tip and probably the ones who scream and complain about poor service - mean lousy tight arses.Oh don't you flatter yourself honeyWhat about those living on overseas pensions like 30000 Thai baht a month ,are they expected to tip
March 6Mar 6 3 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:Really ! Never heard of it in AustraliaWho would I tip in Australia?Oh don't you flatter yourself honeyWhat about those living on overseas pensions like 30000 Thai baht a month ,are they expected to tipTipping in restaurants, drivers, tour guides is common. Have you lived the last 40 years in a cave?
March 6Mar 6 3 hours ago, georgegeorgia said:Really ! Never heard of it in AustraliaWho would I tip in Australia?Oh don't you flatter yourself honeyWhat about those living on overseas pensions like 30000 Thai baht a month ,are they expected to tipNobody has to tip but people like it cause people like money.
March 6Mar 6 6 hours ago, PoorSucker said:It's closest to my workNice, lunch time meet ups with the young gay ?
March 6Mar 6 In the Thai cities that have been spoilt with foreigners over tipping, they will expect rather 100 THB for the smallest service and much more on leaving the restaurant. One must not tip by western standards but tip by local standards. If not it creates a wider social gap between the lucky who work with foreigners and the others who do not get such tips. Also in thai mentality, the more you tip, the more they will consider you rich and the next time, the basic price of the service will increase. Be responable. Yes, do tip. But don't overdo it and don't throw money around each time you see a box on a counter with the workd TIPS written in big like in a pharmacy or shops. It can go to far.
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