2 minutes ago, 1tooth said:

Then they wonder why EVERYONE hates them?

Far from EVERYONE hates Israelis, but even if this were true, it would be the strongest possible justification for the existence of Israel as the homeland and haven of the world's Jews.

2 minutes ago, 1tooth said:

How many times has the op posted a topic condemning the Israeli atrocities.

Never, because Israel hasn't committed any atrocities.. But if Israel ever does commit atrocities, I will condemn them.

1 hour ago, JimCM said:

If Iran started a war by killing Netanyahu and carpet bombing Israel, there would be attacks on Muslims around the world, would you agree?

No there wouldn't be .

Just like there wasn't when Irans proxies attcked Israel and thousands died

18 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

Never, because Israel hasn't committed any atrocities..

You have lost any credibility you may have had with this pathetic statement.

41 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

What are the Jewish people doing to upset the Dutch this much? We have religious minorities in the US like the Amish or even Mormons but they never got bombed.

Dutch Jews haven't done anything to upset non-Jewish Dutch people. In fact, I doubt many Dutch people are upset by Jews. It's only a handful of hate-driven fanatics who physically attack Jews and their institutions.

10 minutes ago, JimCM said:

You have lost any credibility you may have had with this pathetic statement.

I'm not worried about losing credibility in the eyes of those who hate Israel.

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

I made a statement of fact. Seeing it as an excuse is in your mind.

You did not make a "statement of fact." You offered an opinion: "Anti-Semitism is more and more related to Israeli actions."

But even if that were a fact, how are a Jewish school in Amsterdam and a synagogue in Amsterdam related to actions by the Israeli government? That's the crucial question.

Anti-semites attack women and children, because they are too scared to fight men. Sort of like their cheerleaders here, they can spew and hide (or try to)

8 hours ago, Jingthing said:

What a disgusting comment!

What actions?
Being a Jewish person in the Netherlands isn't an action. It's existing.

"disgusting comment" Lets get something straight sunshine I have already stated I do not condone it I was mearly pointing out why a post on X by the Iranian Embassy in the Netherlands that said.

"120 schools have been hit, with many completely reduced to rubble. The death toll includes 206 students & school staff. At least 160 hospitals, clinics, & emergency centers across the country have been attacked & critically damaged."

May have motivated whoever carried out the attack to do it."

So let me rephrase it. Instead of "actions have consequences." Israels actions have consequences on Jews worldwide.

Is that better. It's not me condoning encouraging or agreeing with it I'm just stating a fact.

21 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

So let me rephrase it. Instead of "actions have consequences." Israels actions have consequences on Jews worldwide.

Logical consistency would entail any Jewish person being justified in taking out every Muslim on the grounds of self defense. Thats cool.

7 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Logical consistency would entail any Jewish person being justified in taking out every Muslim on the grounds of self defence. Thats cool

This will be interesting, so on the grounds of self-defence have the Muslims the same rights of self-defence against Jews?

FYI.

With an estimated population of 2 billion followers, Muslims comprise around 26% of the world's total population. In descending order, the percentage of people who identify as Muslims on each continental landmass stands at: 45% of Africa, 25% of Asia and Oceania collectively, 6% of Europe, and 1% of the Americas.

The global Jewish population is approximately 15.7 million as of late 2023, representing about 0.2% of the world population. The majority of the world's Jewish population resides in Israel (over 7.2 million) and the United States (roughly 6.3–7.5 million), with significant communities in France, Canada, and the UK.

55 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

Israels actions have consequences on Jews worldwide.

The big question is WHY? There are 750 Russian Orthodox churches in the U.S., but their members aren't held responsible for the actions of the Russian government in its war with the Ukraine. Over 100 million people worldwide worship in the Anglican or Episcopalian tradition, but they are never blamed for the actions of the U.K. government. In past years, Catholics in Peru, Italy, the Philippines and a whole string of other countries were never held responsible for the actions of the IRA simply because they were Catholic.

So why do some posters in this thread think it understandable that Jews outside Israel are attacked for the actions of the Israeli government? Can anyone explain?

3 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

The big question is WHY? There are 750 Russian Orthodox churches in the U.S., but their members aren't held responsible for the actions of the Russian government in its war with the Ukraine. Over 100 million people worldwide worship in the Anglican or Episcopalian tradition, but they are never blamed for the actions of the U.K. government. In past years, Catholics in Peru, Italy, the Philippines and a whole string of other countries were never held responsible for the actions of the IRA simply because they were Catholic.

So why do some posters in this thread think it understandable that Jews outside Israel are attacked for the actions of the Israeli government? Can anyone explain?

AIPAC

9 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Never, because Israel hasn't committed any atrocities.. But if Israel ever does commit atrocities, I will condemn them.

8 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

You did not make a "statement of fact." You offered an opinion: "Anti-Semitism is more and more related to Israeli actions."

But even if that were a fact, how are a Jewish school in Amsterdam and a synagogue in Amsterdam related to actions by the Israeli government? That's the crucial question.

Would you call the buried ambulance fiasco an atrocity? would you condemn it? Do you think there is something wrong with the culture in the IDF that this can happen?

Antisemitism is more and more related to Israel's actions. It is completely wrong, but nevertheless Israel's actions in Gaza and the West Bank IS fueling antisemitism.

Do you think Jews outside Israel siding with Israel and denying atrocities makes it worse or better?

9 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Dutch Jews haven't done anything to upset non-Jewish Dutch people. In fact, I doubt many Dutch people are upset by Jews. It's only a handful of hate-driven fanatics who physically attack Jews and their institutions.

It's because of Israeli actions.

1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

The big question is WHY? There are 750 Russian Orthodox churches in the U.S., but their members aren't held responsible for the actions of the Russian government in its war with the Ukraine. Over 100 million people worldwide worship in the Anglican or Episcopalian tradition, but they are never blamed for the actions of the U.K. government. In past years, Catholics in Peru, Italy, the Philippines and a whole string of other countries were never held responsible for the actions of the IRA simply because they were Catholic.

So why do some posters in this thread think it understandable that Jews outside Israel are attacked for the actions of the Israeli government? Can anyone explain?

When the Jewish homeland commits atrocities it reflects on Jews. Just as when a Muslim commits a knife attack, the shouts 'the religion of peace again ' are all over the internet.

Like it or not, that's reality.

43 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

AIPAC

The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) is a U.S. pro-Israel lobbying organization. No doubt it is influential, but anti-Israel groups as well as groups and individuals who believe in a Jewish conspiracy vastly overestimate its power.

In any case, what is the connection between AIPAC and a Jewish school or synagogue in the Netherlands or any other country?

47 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Would you call the buried ambulance fiasco an atrocity? would you condemn it? Do you think there is something wrong with the culture in the IDF that this can happen?

This gets complicated because we are getting into the definition of words and the context in which they are used. What is an atrocity in war? It doesn't have an "official" definition and your concept of an atrocity could differ from mine. A lot of it depends on how a chain of events is interpreted and that inherently subjective.

There are varying versions of the buried ambulance incident and I'm not sure what really happened. If I become convinced it was an atrocity, I would then condemn it. No, I don't believe there is anything wrong with the culture in the IDF. Any potential war crimes or atrocities would be the result of panicked actions by individuals or small groups which came under stress.

47 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Antisemitism is more and more related to Israel's actions. It is completely wrong, but nevertheless Israel's actions in Gaza and the West Bank IS fueling antisemitism.

Do you think Jews outside Israel siding with Israel and denying atrocities makes it worse or better?

I agree 100% that, "It is completely wrong." I believe we should focus on correcting that "wrongness" rather than accepting Jews outside Israel are unfairly blamed for actions by the Israeli government. I know you prefer the Jerusalem Declaration on Antisemitism to the IHRA definition. One of the examples of antisemitism in the Jerusalem Declaration is, "Holding Jews collectively responsible for Israel’s conduct or treating Jews, simply because they are Jewish, as agents of Israel." https://jerusalemdeclaration.org/

Blaming all Jews for the actions of the Israeli government is blatant antisemitism and should be refuted by everyone who's not an antisemite.

I do not believe Jews outside Israel who side with Israel and deny atrocities make the situation worse. It's silence that males the situation worse.

11 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Far from EVERYONE hates Israelis, but even if this were true, it would be the strongest possible justification for the existence of Israel as the homeland and haven of the world's Jews.

Maybe the haven for world's Jews placed smack dab in the middle of an area surrounded by a bunch of Arab countries who want you dead was not the best idea for Peace on Earth.

Who came up with that concept? The 3 Stooges?

1 hour ago, Evil Penevil said:

The American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) is a U.S. pro-Israel lobbying organization. No doubt it is influential, but anti-Israel groups as well as groups and individuals who believe in a Jewish conspiracy vastly overestimate its power.

AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) holds significant influence in U.S. politics, operating as a top-spending, bipartisan pro-Israel lobby that shapes foreign policy and impacts elections. It directly contributes to a vast majority of Congress members and has spent over $221 million on lobbying and campaign spending from late 2021 to early 2026, often to defeat candidates critical of Israel.

Electoral Success: AIPAC claimed that 361 of its endorsed candidates won their races in the 2024 election cycle, highlighting its success in shaping the political landscape.

Political Lobbying: AIPAC lobbies for strong U.S.-Israel ties, including $3.8 billion in annual military aid, and is instrumental in passing legislation related to Iran sanctions and Middle East policy.

While some observers note that AIPAC is currently in a defensive position due to changing perspectives on Israel, particularly after the 2024 elections, its financial clout remains a significant factor in shaping U.S. foreign policy debates.

16 hours ago, Jingthing said:

That is no excuse at all to attack random civilian Jewish people all over the world. Or are you actually saying that it is?

I think that no-one in their right mind is saying that revenge against the innocent is ever justified.

However, what I would say is that the strategies and policies that have been put into effect by Israel will have some tragic consequences.

And, when I say tragic, I mean HUGELY TRAGIC consequences.

And these consequences will extend to everyone.

It is written, or if not written, then this is just human nature and Physics at work.

3 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Maybe the haven for world's Jews placed smack dab in the middle of an area surrounded by a bunch of Arab countries who want you dead was not the best idea for Peace on Earth.

Who came up with that concept? The 3 Stooges?

As to who came up with this concept:

This has long been written about in Hebrew Scriptures, and in the Old Testemant of the Bible.

Not by the 3-Stooges.

So, fundamentally, much of the world is following a Plan of Action based on ancient scribblings and mythology.

This is the concept, anyway.

@Packer
Eliminationist rhetoric removed - stand-by.

Eliminationist rhetoric advocates removing or erasing a group (ethnic, religious, political, etc.) viewed as harmful or existential threat—via expulsion, suppression, forced assimilation, sterilization, or extermination.

Core idea: The group must cease to exist in society for the "greater good" or "purity."

It escalates beyond hate speech by implying or desiring group elimination, often dehumanizing targets and justifying violence.

Applies universally: Nazi antisemitism, Rwanda genocide propaganda, anti-Ukrainian rhetoric in Russia, calls to eradicate transgenderism or other minorities.

5 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Maybe the haven for world's Jews placed smack dab in the middle of an area surrounded by a bunch of Arab countries who want you dead was not the best idea for Peace on Earth.

Who came up with that concept? The 3 Stooges?

Those guys may be clowns, but they are not the real 3 stooges.

Here's a clip of the 3 geniuses in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlAhr2DxY98

And yes, they were Jewish.

56 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

And yes, they were Jewish.

Not sure if the guys in the new film were as good as the originals, but the film was quite funny.

And the other Jewish guy, whatshiname??? , played a nun.

Yeah, a lot of funny Jewish people, but situation in Israel is not funny.

4 hours ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Jews overall are not the whole problem.

In my view it is Zionism, which is what/who Israel was declared by David Ben-Gurion, acting for the Va'ad Leumi (National Council) and the World Zionist Organization.

The declaration followed decades of effort, starting from the first Zionist Congress in 1897 led by Theodore Herzl, which aimed for a legally secured national home in Palestine.

The declaration is seen as the foundation of Israeli law and a crucial, unanimous act of the Zionist movement.

Zionism in itself is not the problem unless you think all self determination movements are the problem.

Many of what you obviously think are "evil" Zionists are very much opposed to the far right wing actions of Israeli governments.

At its core political Zionism in its current form since Israel existed means support for the right of Israel to political self determination, to continue to exist, and to defend itself the same as any sovereign nation state.

If you oppose that, you'd be an extremist against the existence and all nation sovereign nation states. Or is your opposition to that ONLY in effect when it's about Jews?

11 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Logical consistency would entail any Jewish person being justified in taking out every Muslim on the grounds of self defense. Thats cool.

Be fair to them they are having a good go all things considered. Gaza is a template.

1 hour ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Be fair to them they are having a good go all things considered. Gaza is a template.

Yep. The Pax Judaica is coming.

31 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Yep. The Pax Judaica is coming.

I actually laughed at that. I like my armies to be corrupt and self-serving they only then sh%t in their own nests - Thailand is an exemplar of the middle way. Not too Myanamar not too Yankee - the sweet spot keeps the natives down and the country cheap but slap them around if they ever get any ideas above their station. That's why most of you are there - it was cheap and that's why and on Kid's day let them play around with the tanks and dream ........because for most dreams are all they have - that and the lottery once a month. Oh and for the women/ladyboys a ride out of Dodge wafted away on a farang d%ck .

Saddhu,saddhu,saddhu.

A new explosion in Amsterdam that apparently targeted the offices of a U.S. bank has been claimed by the same Islamist group which claimed responsibility for the attacks on the Amsterdam Jewish school and Rotterdam synagogue.

Monday, 16 March 2026 - 11:21

Explosion in Amsterdam claimed by group linked to attack on Jewish school, synagogue

An explosion started a small fire at the Atrium office complex in Amsterdam’s Zuidas district overnight, the police confirmed to local media. Unverified video of the attack is circulating on social media, with reports that it was claimed by the same group that claimed earlier attacks on a Jewish school in Amsterdam and a synagogue in Rotterdam.

https://nltimes.nl/2026/03/16/explosion-amsterdam-claimed-group-linked-attack-jewish-school-synagogue

No injuries or significant damage was reported.

23 hours ago, Evil Penevil said:

Far from EVERYONE hates Israelis, but even if this were true, it would be the strongest possible justification for the existence of Israel as the homeland and haven of the world's Jews.

yes that's true but that means the expulsion of Jews.

I'm an American and my family are English, Irish, Welsh and Jewish from Eastern European (Czechoslovakia) from the coal miners in the late 1800s. I'm just a normal American and there's nothing left of the Jewish element from my father's side.

After seeing the last 25 years I think the people still clinging on to their new Jewish identity need to be expelled or segregated. I've even met Mexicans and Filipinos who have greater American pride than these Jews.

I don't think it's too much to ask. Fall in to line and forget your past or go away. That's what my family did and many other Jews I've known growing up.

16 hours ago, Bannoi said:

"disgusting comment" Lets get something straight sunshine I have already stated I do not condone it I was mearly pointing out why a post on X by the Iranian Embassy in the Netherlands that said.

"120 schools have been hit, with many completely reduced to rubble. The death toll includes 206 students & school staff. At least 160 hospitals, clinics, & emergency centers across the country have been attacked & critically damaged."

May have motivated whoever carried out the attack to do it."

So let me rephrase it. Instead of "actions have consequences." Israels actions have consequences on Jews worldwide.

Is that better. It's not me condoning encouraging or agreeing with it I'm just stating a fact.

Does this mean I can justify attacking Muslims based on the ISIS-inspired attacks?