A review of Trump's visit to China. A Brit, Simon Marks of LBC, has a look here. What did YOU think ?

https://youtu.be/oRdETyC1SxA

The brave Folks of Taiwan don't want to be dragged into the China machine and will have noted Trump "doesn't want a war 10,000 miles away". Will the USA now curtail arms arrangements to Taiwan ?

(Apparently, a war 6000 (?) miles away is OK though !)

Edited May 16May 16 by TorquayFan

China has no plans to invade Taiwan. They want it right where it is.

They would have a hard time moving it..in any case it's widely recognised that Taiwan is part of China.. though some do dispute the glaringly obvious fact .

From Trump's Beijing banquet speech:

Chinese workers helped lay the railroad tracks that connected our Atlantic coast to the Pacific. American travelers to China helped spread literacy and modern medicine, and at the request of China's ambassador, it was President Theodore Roosevelt who provided the funds to establish President Xi's alma mater, Tsinghua University.

And what he coulda added:

The landmark birthright citizenship case is United States v. Wong Kim Ark (1898) (whose parents were Chinese citizens) The Supreme Court ruled in a 6–2 decision that the 14th Amendment's Citizenship Clause grants automatic U.S. citizenship to almost all persons born on U.S. soil, regardless of their parents' race, nationality, or immigration status.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark

NB So it's an ethnic Chinese guy is who is preventing me from getting rid of that silly birthright disaster

How did it go? Like this:

He went.

He groveled, got nothing, was publicly humiliated.

He left.

One thing the summit did achieve was to show what China considers its role and place in the world is, and what it considers the state and trajectory of the US to be.

And most of us got to learn about a political theory called the "Thucydides Trap".

Trump's Thucydides response here on Truth Social:

When President Xi very elegantly referred to the United States as perhaps being a declining nation, he was referring to the tremendous damage we suffered during the four years of Joe Biden and the Biden Administration, and on that score, he was 100% correct.

****Derogatory nickname edited out****

Looking at what the trip achieved in more detail shows that Trump might as well have stayed home. His main reason for going was to beg for help with the Iranians.

The Chinese said "no way", even though it seemed like he offered up Taiwan as a price. Clearly, the Chinese think that Trump has already given up on Taiwan, so that means it can't be used as a bargaining chip anymore ("art of the deal", my a**).

Furthermore, no agreements/deals were made regarding rare earths, something that's of vital importance to the US.

Trump hauled along Nvidia boss Jensen Huang so that he could hawk their latest chip. 'No thanks', said the Chinese.

Several other captains of industry went along, including Elon Musk, and what he was doing there is anybody's guess. Mostly he just wandered around, high as a kite, eyes rolling around in their sockets, filming random stuff.

The accompanying Boeing execs were there hoping for a deal to sell 500 planes. What they got was a deal for 200, promptly dropping the Boeing share price 4%.

So basically frack all was achieved.

End of story.

PS. Xi promised to send hims some seeds for the WH rose garden he put a concrete slab over. The level of disrespect is mind-blowing.😂

'Trump’s China Trip Exposed as So Empty That All He Got Was Seeds'

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-went-to-china-and-all-he-got-were-seeds-by-mail/

Edited May 16May 16 by BLMFem

8 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Looking at what the trip achieved in more detail shows that Trump might as well have stayed home. His main reason for going was to beg for help with the Iranians.

The Chinese said "no way", even though it seemed like he offered up Taiwan as a price. Clearly, the Chinese think that Trump has already given up on Taiwan, so that means it can't be used as a bargaining chip anymore ("art of the deal", my a**).

Furthermore, no agreements/deals were made regarding rare earths, something that's of vital importance to the US.

Trump hauled along Nvidia boss Jensen Huang so that he could hawk their latest chip. 'No thanks', said the Chinese.

Several other captains of industry went along, including Elon Musk, and what he was doing there is anybody's guess. Mostly he just wandered around, high as a kite, eyes rolling around in their sockets, filming random stuff.

The accompanying Boeing execs were there hoping for a deal to sell 500 planes. What they got was a deal for 200, promptly dropping the Boeing share price 4%.

So basically frack all was achieved.

End of story.

PS. Xi promised to send hims some seeds for the WH rose garden he put a concrete slab over. The level of disrespect is mind-blowing.😂

'Trump’s China Trip Exposed as So Empty That All He Got Was Seeds'

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-went-to-china-and-all-he-got-were-seeds-by-mail/

The Boeing deal was actually arranged years ago under Biden, but like most "deals" announced during summits, they rarely materialize. It's just something so leaders can justify the expense of travel.

The reason Boeing's stock slipped is because the market expected to build on Biden's original 200. It didn't happen, and even these "200" remain in doubt.

But like you noted, Trump got some rose seeds, so the entire trip wasn't for nothing.

What was abundantly clear to anyone save a MAGA, is that Xi is now the top world leader. The US, because of Trump, is at best #2 now.

On the question of Chinese ownership of American farmland;

Promises made? Promises kept.

I suppose those rose seeds will be confiscated at US customs as potentially biohazardous materials and the importer will be fined?

Yeah, MAGA, how do you feel about 500,000 Chinese students in US schools and the CCP buying up US farmland.

Is that OK?

And he still didn't get the help with the Iranians he was begging for. Talk about 'the art of the deal'!🤣

Edited May 16May 16 by BLMFem

The Atlantic sums it up nicely in this article. It was astonishing to see so clearly the once sole superpower bow to the ascending titan.

Sad, but you MAGA people got what you voted for.

'In Beijing, a lame-duck president personified the decline of American power.'

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/05/trump-lame-duck-superpower/687189/?gift=SCYx-5scVta3-cr_IlgTyWVlJQGBShrSv8fahmQRLEQ

"During the first Trump administration, foreign leaders flattered and accommodated the president out of deference to American power. They feared it; they relied on it. During the second administration, and especially since the beginning of the Iran war, their calculus has quietly shifted—not because the strategy of obsequiousness has failed, but because it’s no longer worth the trouble. Like many of his counterparts around the world, Xi has begun to assume that it’s not just Trump who is term-limited; it’s also his nation."

Looks like beef exports were not part of the discussion.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/china-pulls-export-licenses-us-beef-plants-shortly-after-renewing-them-2026-05-14/

I'm not so sure Trump came away empty handed. In any of these big meetings, the real work/diplomacy/promises happen in the small bilaterals - so Xi, Trump and their closest advisors and translators. Maybe 10 people. They might have agreed something that both sides agreed would stay unannounced. They also would have agreed publicly what each would say after the summit. So Trump telling Taiwan, publicly, not to declare independence would have been agreed with Xi during the meeting.

As Trump already said ,the meeting was very success full and big deals were made!

Just as in 2017? he sold a lot of big beautiful Boeing airplanes.

That has to be a good thing right?

More winning for the maga crowd.

but what about this then?

Edited May 18May 18 by jvs