1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Please share my assumptions. As for facts what's the point. For the woke left facts don't matter e.g. one of your possible presidential candidates said the American Civil War was a war against the billionaires. Facts? History? Never mind. My guess is it was politics. Maybe not smart politics but politics otherwise she's a

complete moron. Daja vu.

The war she was referring ,was during the revolution with the king of England, She's all in on far left billionaires though, Ms AOC got her history mixed up as usual . better for her to stick with SJW mixology .

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/jonathan-turley-aocs-war-billionaires-twists-americas-birth-socialist-myth

Edited May 22May 22 by riclag

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

Does Israel fund, arm and support proxy terrorist groups? No. Do tens of thousands get shot dead in Israel for protesting against the government? No. Do the Mullahs fund, arm and support proxy terrorist groups? Yes. Do tens of thousands get shot dead in Iran for protesting against the government? Yes. Ok. Iran good because Trump bad. Brilliant.

Is Israel a terrorist government of its own? Yes!!!

Are many people in Israel protesting against the government? No!!!!

Does Israel fund proxy terrorist groups? Nom, they run their owen!!!!!!!!!!

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Does Israel fund, arm and support proxy terrorist groups?

Yes, they are funding them to fight HAMAS in Gaza. Netanyahu supported HAMAS initially, as the could weaken the Palestinian Authority. Israel's meddling and manipulation continues.

6 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Do tens of thousands get shot dead in Israel for protesting against the government?

They get shot dead just outside the borders of Israel.

8 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Do the Mullahs fund, arm and support proxy terrorist groups?

Israel do. We just covered that.

8 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Do tens of thousands get shot dead in Iran for protesting against the government?

We already covered that.

So If Iran is bad, Israel is also bad. So why isn't the USA fighting against Israel?

15 hours ago, davb said:

The people of Iran have suffered for generations under the Mullahs and IRGC. Trump is freeing them from this, and improving the world. Lower gas prices, which are on the horizon with OPEC destroyed, will lift millions out of poverty.

Huh? There's a lot of wishful thinking there and I'm just wondering how did you come to the conclusion that Trump is freeing the Iranian people from the control of the hardliners? Do you have any evidence whatsoever to support that thesis? In reality the Ayatollah's son is far more hardline than his father, so it would appear that all he's done was increase the heinous positions that they have, rather than ease them.

And though gas prices are likely to come down after the strait is reopened eventually, as we all know they're unlikely to come down to their prior levels.

Therefore Trump continues to be Mr. Trumpflation.

8 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

Is Israel a terrorist government of its own? Yes!!!

Are many people in Israel protesting against the government? No!!!!

Does Israel fund proxy terrorist groups? Nom, they run their owen!!!!!!!!!!

There are likely huge numbers of Israelis that object to current foreign policy there, but just like in America it's not necessarily productive to express an opposition opinion.

40 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Are you okay? I gave you an honest answer. Unequivocally. Israel by far.

Sorry I must have missed it. Israel in your opinion is far worse than the Islamic Republic of Iran. Ok. My guess is, and of course I might be wrong, you think Oct 7 was a good thing.

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Sorry I must have missed it. Israel in your opinion is far worse than the Islamic Republic of Iran. Ok. My guess is, and of course I might be wrong, you think Oct 7 was a good thing.

You guessed wrong. Your mind works in strange ways. Are you feeling okay?

1 hour ago, IsmeUno said:

You don't seem to be winning to me. Iran and China have humiliated you on the world stage. Israel has done for Trump. Made him a laughing stock. Israel now a pariah nation. If that is 'winning' to you, you are welcome to it. The rest of us are under no allusions nor delusions, unlike your not so good self.

Love it. The screech of the loser.

6 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

You guessed wrong. Your mind works in strange ways. Are you feeling okay?

Didnt kill enough? 555555555555

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

There are likely huge numbers of Israelis that object to current foreign policy there, but just like in America it's not necessarily productive to express an opposition opinion.

Well there are far left groups, left groups, centrists, the right and the far right in Israel and the US. Under the regime in Iran you comply otherwise you are punished which could mean a bullet in the back of your head. Your argument doesn't hold.

Just now, Yagoda said:

Love it. The screech of the loser.

If you are imagining screeching...it's coming from you.

Over here, I prefer rational thought to rabid extremism.

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Didnt kill enough? 555555555555

You are coming over as not quite right in the head. How's your home life?

7 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

You guessed wrong. Your mind works in strange ways. Are you feeling okay?

Ok. Oct 7 was a bad thing. You're right. Hamas, an Iranian terrorist proxy, committed atrocities. No Oct 7 no Gazan war.

9 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

You are coming over as not quite right in the head. How's your home life?

Perfect. American passport. The winners and good guys with the power to force you to behave. Your master LOL.

HBU?

3 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Ok. Oct 7 was a bad thing. You're right. Hamas, an Iranian terrorist proxy, committed atrocities. No Oct 7 no Gazan war.

Netanyahu encouraged HAMAS against the Palestinian Authority. But of course to you they are an 'Iranian proxy'.

A Palestinian cleric named Sheikh Ahmed Yassin establishes the militant group Hamas, in 1987, as an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood. Hamas endorses jihad as a way to regain territory for Muslims.

The United States designates Hamas a foreign terrorist organization in 1997.

When did Iran enter the picture?

https://education.cfr.org/learn/timeline/israeli-palestinian-conflict-timeline

Gazan war? It was Israel causing damage. Flattening the land for a beach resort. Hard to imagine anything more despicable than that.

Edited May 22May 22 by IsmeUno

9 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Perfect. American passport. The winners and good guys with the power to force you to behave. Your master LOL.

HBU?

Grandiosity...

Have you been diagnosed?

BPD?

34 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Grandiosity...

Have you been diagnosed?

BPD?

Virulent Jew hater and Iran supporter.

Are you being paid?

5 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Well there are far left groups, left groups, centrists, the right and the far right in Israel and the US. Under the regime in Iran you comply otherwise you are punished which could mean a bullet in the back of your head. Your argument doesn't hold.

I'm just trying to understand what you just said, are you saying that you're totally in opposition to any level of dissent or disagreement with government policy?

Good grief are you really that dense? Surely your just playing dumb. The Iran whackos slaughtered 30,000 and counting for opposition.

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

I'm just trying to understand what you just said, are you saying that you're totally in opposition to any level of dissent or disagreement with government policy?

Not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is do it in Iran and you're dead. Do it in the US or Israel and your not. US and Israel are democracies whereas the Islamic Republic of Iran is a theocratic dictatorship.

Edited May 22May 22 by dinsdale

7 hours ago, riclag said:

The war she was referring ,was during the revolution with the king of England

The last "King of England" was King William III (William of Orange - actually a Dutchman but that is another story.) He died in 1702, and was succeeded by his wife Anne, who ruled as Queen of England for only a year until the union of Scotland and England established the Crown of The United Kingdom of Great Britain, abolishing the title and Office of King (or Queen) of England, more than 70 years before your revolutionary war!

One doesn't wish to be pedantic, but you are such an absolute stickler for accuracy in your posts when being critical of others, and you were accusing her of "getting her history mixed up", and using it to support your pithy and oh so original contention that she should stick to mixing drinks, so I felt it was worth mentioning.

Edited May 22May 22 by JAG

11 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Oh give me the source for that one LOL

125K not M - typo

135K Palestinians and counting

100k Lebanese in/direct

600k Syria

430k Iraq

6k Iran + Gulf

375k Yemen *

All have died in/directly due to Israeli actions, machinations.

We should could how many Americans have died on behalf of Zionism 🤔

37 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Not what I'm saying at all. What I'm saying is do it in Iran and you're dead. Do it in the US or Israel and your not. US and Israel are democracies whereas the Islamic Republic of Iran is a theocratic dictatorship.

So what?

First, it's not a theocracy it's a military dictatorship. Second, why is it your problem? Third, what money are you donating and have you signed your children up for this war?

United States is in no position to moralize nor can it financially or diplomatically afford to do so - especially when it is at the bidding of Zionist ambitions and a genocidal nation.

The US is most definitely complicit in war crimes

1 minute ago, StarOfLight said:

it's not a theocracy

AI Overview

Yes, the Islamic Republic of Iran is classified as an Islamic theocracy. Its political system is governed by a fusion of religious ideology and republican elements, with ultimate authority resting in the Supreme Leader—the country's highest-ranking cleric.

Just now, dinsdale said:

AI Overview

Yes, the Islamic Republic of Iran is classified as an Islamic theocracy. Its political system is governed by a fusion of religious ideology and republican elements, with ultimate authority resting in the Supreme Leader—the country's highest-ranking cleric.

It's not. It's the military that controls everything. Military mafia. The streets and public areas far more open and free than Saudi.

Even Hillary Clinton acknowledged this in comments well over a decade ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/news/2010/02/100215_clinton_iran.shtml

Religion is the facade the same way Communism is a facade for China, N Korea, Cuba ... countries in which political system would be labeled fascist, authoritarian, autocratic

8 hours ago, IsmeUno said:

Actually I disagree on that point. Westerners have been meddling in Iran for some time. In fact some might argue that they brought about the Islamic Republic through that meddling. I'm not knowledgeable enough to know everything about everything, but on the surface of it, I've seen and read far more Israeli terrorism than connected to Iran. You have to think about why Iran do what they do. It's somewhat simplistic to assume they are simply evil. I prefer to not cloud my mind by taking sides, preferring to just go on what I think I know. It's not about hating anyone. It's more about not lying to myself.

What has westerners to do with the question !!! we all know westerners have been meddling for century's that is not the question !! both Iran and Israel have committed acts of Terrorism and as i said there is no definitive answer as to who has committed more i don't think there is a score card or a point system to say who is worse

as for the poster he is just rambling does not know what he is talking about put on ignore !!!

7 minutes ago, StarOfLight said:

It's not. It's the military that controls everything. Military mafia. The streets and public areas far more open and free than Saudi.

Even Hillary Clinton acknowledged this in comments well over a decade ago.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/news/2010/02/100215_clinton_iran.shtml

Religion is the facade the same way Communism is a facade for China, N Korea, Cuba ... countries in which political system would be labeled fascist, authoritarian, autocratic

A military dictatorship has the military as the head of state. A theocracy has a cleric as head of state. Question now is are the clerics running the show or is the IRGC? The latter is more than likely now the case.

7 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Virulent Jew hater and Iran supporter.

Are you being paid?

Now that fits the definition of screeching. I told you it was you all along. When your Trolling and baiting attempts fall flat, you begin your screeching calls of "jew hater". Insane in the brain...

2 minutes ago, MikeandDow said:

What has westerners to do with the question !!! we all know westerners have been meddling for century's that is not the question !! both Iran and Israel have committed acts of Terrorism and as i said there is no definitive answer as to who has committed more i don't think there is a score card or a point system to say who is worse

as for the poster he is just rambling does not know what he is talking about put on ignore !!!

AI Overview

Iran and its heavily armed, state-funded network of militant proxies (including Hezbollah, Hamas, the Houthis, and various Shiite militias) have been attributed to hundreds of high-profile terrorist attacks globally. Iran provides weapons, funding, training, and strategic direction to these groups.

Just now, MikeandDow said:

What has westerners to do with the question !!! we all know westerners have been meddling for century's that is not the question !! both Iran and Israel have committed acts of Terrorism and as i said there is no definitive answer as to who has committed more i don't think there is a score card or a point system to say who is worse

as for the poster he is just rambling does not know what he is talking about put on ignore !!!

I'm confident that it is Israel. We have documented proof they have been at it even before it's creation. Tell me about Iran and when that started? I think you'll find it was after the meddling with their leadership, which led to the formation of the Islamic Republic in the '70s. It's all interconnected.