Not the first time I've posted this - what this evil blight has done is expose the weaknesses in the US system of democracy.

Let them rape the country, it won't be fatal. When responsible adults assume the helm once again, they can fix it and make things fair for one and all. Hope springs eternal, yes?

When President Obama was in office, things were different. Things always are when grown-ups are in charge.

5 hours ago, boganJoe said:

President Trump just DEBUNKED the Fake News claim he is profiteering off the presidency...

"I PURPOSEFULLY NEVER speak to the people that run my money!"

According to five different media sources (and the White House) his sons are the people that run his money. So has he just admitted that he never speaks to his sons, or (more likely) is he just lying again?

1 hour ago, worgeordie said:

Want a pardon, no matter what crime you have been charged with , OK that's starting

at 2 Million $ , and there are 250 spaces waiting , Bitcoin preferred. wink wink...

regards worgeordie

He likely sold his pardons for closer to 50 million dollars each, so that's another billion or so in corrupt money that hasn't been accounted for.

But then again that's just how the gutter man operates.

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1 hour ago, BLMFem said:

When President Obama was in office, things were different. Things always are when grown-ups are in charge.

Well it would appear that the American people are standing for it. Let us hope in the midterms that they show us some spine and willingness to hold Trump accountable for his many crimes and self enrichment schemes.

An observation elsewhere

He's kept well to form though. Spent over $10tr of other people's money and converted it to $2bn for himself. Basically, he's turned a hundred dollars into 2c. Same as he did with all his Dad's money.

6 hours ago, team adanac said:

Did she ever, corruption being her specialty.

No supporter of Trump ever has the right to discuss corruption of others, on any level. Your support has revoked that right.

4 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

No supporter of Trump ever has the right to discuss corruption of others, on any level. Your support has revoked that right.

starting censorship before you start herding trump supporters in camps? what are you gonna do with us, who point our fingers and laugh at you?

A report out just today - if you invested $10,000 USD in the Trump coin, your value as of today is $364 USD.

18 hours ago, SingAPorn said:

Who cares if Trump makes money or not.

People who are envious of rich people.

6 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

People who are envious of rich people.

And people that don't like corruption.

4 minutes ago, gargamon said:

And people that don't like corruption.

Yah, maybe 2% of people genuinely care about corruption.

Most people only seem to care when it's the other party.

And many people are just genuinely envious of anyone who is rich.

23 hours ago, boganJoe said:

Donald Trump's wealth increased significantly in the years leading up to his second term (especially 2024).

Key Numbers (Forbes estimates):

• Early 2024 (before the election campaign really heated up): Around $2.3 – $3.9 billion.

• Post-election / early 2025: Surged to roughly $6 – $7.3 billion range.

He roughly doubled or even nearly tripled his net worth in that window, depending on the exact timing and valuation.

Main drivers:

• Truth Social / Trump Media & Technology Group (TMTG): The big one. When it went public via SPAC in 2024, Trump’s stake skyrocketed in value, adding billions on paper (even though the company itself loses money).

• Cryptocurrency ventures: Major gains after the election from meme coins, World Liberty Financial, and related projects.

• Licensing & branding deals: Foreign developers and others rushed in, adding hundreds of millions.

• Real estate & golf clubs: Steady performers.

Key Points on the Gains:

• The most dramatic increase happened in 2024, especially after he secured the Republican nomination and won the election in November.

• Truth Social’s parent company going public (2024) was the single biggest catalyst — it added billions to his net worth on paper.

• Crypto-related ventures also exploded in value after the election.

• By the time he was inaugurated for his second term (Jan 2025), his wealth had roughly doubled from early 2024 levels.

His wealth took a hit during/after his first term (partly due to COVID, legal issues, and Truth Social startup costs), but rebounded hard during the 2024 campaign and after the win.

Bottom line: Trump became substantially richer in the run-up to his second term, largely thanks to the market valuing his political comeback and media/crypto plays. Whether you think that's good, bad, or corrupt is a separate debate, but the numbers show clear growth.

did you purposely avoid mentioning the kick backs, black mail/threats, scams, markets manipulation that included the ALL family and inner circle billionaires, what promises did he make to the ones donating to his campaign, so many things you forgot to mention and you spend so much energy and time trying to defend the indefensible, keep trying you may get there in you next life

13 hours ago, team adanac said:

Did she ever, corruption being her specialty.

You mean she's more special than Trump??🤣

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

starting censorship before you start herding trump supporters in camps? what are you gonna do with us, who point our fingers and laugh at you?

We're doing that already, bud. No need for any camps.

PS. You just love a good pearl squeeze in the morning, don't you.😆

He's raking in billions, but he still needs more. I urge the resident MAGA faithful to give all they can spare, and then double it.

Anything less would be UNPATRIOTIC!!!

Plain old extortion, and he's freely admitting it.

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9 minutes ago, BLMFem said:

Plain old extortion, and he's freely admitting it.

There used to be an assumption of SOME base integrity that was expected from our leaders, which meant doing shady deals in "back room" mode. This crime family isn't even trying to hide it any more. As I posted earlier, they will rape the country for all they can then move on. Eventually adults will be back in control and can fix their damage, though the stench will linger for generations.

15 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

There used to be an assumption of SOME base integrity that was expected from our leaders, which meant doing shady deals in "back room" mode. This crime family isn't even trying to hide it any more. As I posted earlier, they will rape the country for all they can then move on. Eventually adults will be back in control and can fix their damage, though the stench will linger for generations.

If US democracy survives the ongoing attempt at dismantling it and the midterms are actually going to be held, then that's the start of a looooong journey to repair some of the enormous damage this administration has been/is/will be causing. I say "some of the damage", because not everything can be fixed.

Trust and soft power earned over generations has been wiped out in little over a year, and it's not coming back.

On 7/2/2026 at 11:49 AM, FolkGuitar said:

How can the MAGAs be so stupid?

Because they can.....and are!!!

Edited July 3Jul 3 by xylophone

2 hours ago, Mavideol said:

did you purposely avoid mentioning the kick backs, black mail/threats, scams, markets manipulation that included the ALL family and inner circle billionaires, what promises did he make to the ones donating to his campaign, so many things you forgot to mention and you spend so much energy and time trying to defend the indefensible, keep trying you may get there in you next life

Trump has redefined corruption and has done so on so many fronts and as for the huge profits that his companies and sons have raked in, they are as a result of his actions while he is a president – – in effect it is tantamount to "insider trading", telling his sons and "arms length companies" to buy certain stocks, and two weeks later giving that very same company a huge government order for their goods. And this M.O. has been repeated time and again by this crook.

I'm sincerely hoping that somewhere along the line he will be prosecuted and locked up for the huge amount of corruption that he has undertaken and overseen. Americans should be ashamed of this grifting, lying, rapist and paedophile clown.

1 hour ago, xylophone said:

paedophile clown

Talking about Biden, bubba Clinton, of course you are. Biden had showers with his teen daughter, Clinton rolled on the pedophile lolita express or how many times did bubbas pedo chum Epstein visit him in the White House, was it 17 times? Sick bunch them liberal pedophiles. So, FYI on democrat pedophilia and other things you know nothing about:

1. "Trump has redefined corruption... on so many fronts"

This is subjective. Critics argue Trump's business ties, appointments, and policies created conflicts of interest (e.g., emoluments clause concerns from foreign payments to Trump properties during his first term). Lawsuits were filed but largely dismissed as moot after he left office or failed on standing/procedural grounds—no court issued a final ruling that he violated the Constitution.

Supporters counter that every modern president has business or family interests, prior presidents (e.g., via foundations or speaking fees) faced similar scrutiny, and Trump was transparent via financial disclosures. No unique "redefinition"—conflicts exist across administrations, and enforcement often depends on politics. Corruption typically requires quid pro quo bribery or illegal acts; policy favoring certain sectors (common in politics) isn't automatically criminal.

2. "Huge profits... as a result of his actions while he is a president – tantamount to 'insider trading'" via tipping sons/companies to buy stocks, then government orders

Partial accuracy with important caveats:

• Profits during presidency: Trump's businesses and family have reported massive income, especially in the current term from crypto ventures (e.g., over $1-2B reported in 2025 disclosures, much from World Liberty Financial and meme coins involving his sons). This raises legitimate conflict questions—presidential rhetoric or policy can boost family-linked assets.

• Insider trading claim: There are reports of well-timed stock trades in Trump's accounts (managed via trust) before government contracts or praise (e.g., Dell, Axon). Critics demand investigations. However, the White House states independent third-party managers handle trades, and Trump/family don't direct them. No public criminal charges or convictions for insider trading as of now. Timing alone isn't proof of illegality (correlation ≠ causation; markets react to policy signals openly).

• Government orders to family companies: Specific allegations exist (e.g., contracts/loans to Trump Jr.-linked firms), but these are under scrutiny by opponents in Congress, not proven criminal "insider trading." Government contracting has rules against favoritism; violations would require evidence of direct intervention for personal gain.

This is a real ethical concern shared by watchdogs across parties—presidents with active businesses create appearance problems. But equating it directly to criminal "insider trading" (illegal securities fraud) overstates without court proof. Similar family profiteering accusations hit other politicians (e.g., Hunter Biden dealings).

3. "This M.O. has been repeated time and again by this crook"

"Repeated" is exaggerated. Investigations (e.g., first-term emoluments suits, various probes) produced allegations and civil scrutiny but few criminal convictions tied to presidential corruption. Trump faced multiple indictments, but many stalled or were dismissed post-election/immunity rulings.

He was convicted on 34 felony counts in New York (falsifying business records re: hush money)—a state case, not direct presidential corruption. Other cases (election-related) involved immunity debates and DOJ policy against prosecuting sitting presidents. No widespread "prosecutions for huge corruption" succeeded in locking him up.

4. "Grifting, lying"

• Grifting: Subjective term for self-enrichment. Trump's branding, books, and ventures predate and continue beyond politics. Critics see presidency as extension; supporters see legitimate business.

• Lying: Trump has well-documented false or exaggerated statements (fact-checkers tallied thousands). Common in politics on all sides—rhetoric, spin, hyperbole. Not unique.

5. "Rapist and paedophile"

• Rapist: Trump was found civilly liable for sexual abuse (E. Jean Carroll case, often described as rape in lay terms under New York law). He denies it and appealed. Multiple other allegations exist, but no criminal rape conviction. When asked in a jury verdict form if the evidence proved that Trump raped Carrol, the jury returned a "No" response.

• Paedophile (actual spelling pedophilia): This is unsubstantiated. Old dismissed lawsuits (e.g., anonymous "Katie Johnson" claims of raping a 13-year-old with Epstein) were dropped/withdrawn and lack credible corroboration. No charges, convictions, or credible evidence from Epstein files tying Trump to underage sex crimes. Epstein association existed socially (pre-conviction), but Trump banned him from Mar-a-Lago after an incident. Claims often recycled without proof.

These are serious accusations; civil liability ≠ criminal guilt, and unproven claims (especially anonymous/dismissed) should not be treated as fact.

Your post is highly, typical Trump hating partisan and emotionally charged. It mixes:

• Legitimate concerns (conflicts of interest, family profits, emoluments, ethics in government).

• Exaggertions/unproven claims (criminal "insider trading," repeated prosecutable corruption, "paedophile").

• No prosecution outcome: Despite intense scrutiny, Trump has not been "locked up" for the described corruption. Legal outcomes reflect divided government, immunity doctrines, and prosecutorial discretion.

Presidential businesses create inherent tensions—Trump didn't divest fully (unlike norms). Crypto windfalls and timed trades warrant oversight. However, "corruption" requires evidence of illegal acts, not just policy wins benefiting allies or family. Many similar accusations (across parties) rarely result in convictions due to high bars for proving intent.

Americans can disagree on Trump's style/ethics without the extreme labels. For balance, similar (or worse) family/business issues have been alleged against other prominent figures without equivalent outrage in all circles. Truth-seeking requires evidence over tribal rhetoric.

1 hour ago, xylophone said:

I'm sincerely hoping that somewhere along the line he will be prosecuted and locked up for the huge amount of corruption that he has undertaken and overseen

Hilarious you seething, deranged liberals. You're not "sincerely hoping" for justice. You're seething that the American people looked at the alternatives and picked Trump anyway and twice! Your post is the political equivalent of yelling at the sky: zero original thought, maximum partisan copium, and the intellectual honesty of a CNN chyron. Calling him a "grifting, lying... clown" while peddling unproven pedo conspiracies and criminal fantasies is peak projection. If your hatred was based on policy, fine. But this? It's lazy, fact-light tribal screaming. Touch grass, read primary sources instead of outrage bait, and maybe try arguing ideas instead of cartoon-villain fanfiction. Americans aren't "ashamed." A lot of them voted for the guy precisely because they’re tired of the unhinged hysteria and utter nonsense and abject, compound failure from the left. Try harder.

Edited July 3Jul 3 by team adanac

7 minutes ago, team adanac said:

Talking about Biden, bubba Clinton, of course you are. Biden had showers with his teen daughter, Clinton rolled on the pedophile lolita express or how many times did bubbas pedo chum Epstein visit him in the White House, was it 17 times? Sick bunch them liberal pedophiles. So, FYI on democrat pedophilia and other things you know nothing about:

1. "Trump has redefined corruption... on so many fronts"

This is subjective. Critics argue Trump's business ties, appointments, and policies created conflicts of interest (e.g., emoluments clause concerns from foreign payments to Trump properties during his first term). Lawsuits were filed but largely dismissed as moot after he left office or failed on standing/procedural grounds—no court issued a final ruling that he violated the Constitution.

Supporters counter that every modern president has business or family interests, prior presidents (e.g., via foundations or speaking fees) faced similar scrutiny, and Trump was transparent via financial disclosures. No unique "redefinition"—conflicts exist across administrations, and enforcement often depends on politics. Corruption typically requires quid pro quo bribery or illegal acts; policy favoring certain sectors (common in politics) isn't automatically criminal.

2. "Huge profits... as a result of his actions while he is a president – tantamount to 'insider trading'" via tipping sons/companies to buy stocks, then government orders

Partial accuracy with important caveats:

• Profits during presidency: Trump's businesses and family have reported massive income, especially in the current term from crypto ventures (e.g., over $1-2B reported in 2025 disclosures, much from World Liberty Financial and meme coins involving his sons). This raises legitimate conflict questions—presidential rhetoric or policy can boost family-linked assets.

• Insider trading claim: There are reports of well-timed stock trades in Trump's accounts (managed via trust) before government contracts or praise (e.g., Dell, Axon). Critics demand investigations. However, the White House states independent third-party managers handle trades, and Trump/family don't direct them. No public criminal charges or convictions for insider trading as of now. Timing alone isn't proof of illegality (correlation ≠ causation; markets react to policy signals openly).

• Government orders to family companies: Specific allegations exist (e.g., contracts/loans to Trump Jr.-linked firms), but these are under scrutiny by opponents in Congress, not proven criminal "insider trading." Government contracting has rules against favoritism; violations would require evidence of direct intervention for personal gain.

This is a real ethical concern shared by watchdogs across parties—presidents with active businesses create appearance problems. But equating it directly to criminal "insider trading" (illegal securities fraud) overstates without court proof. Similar family profiteering accusations hit other politicians (e.g., Hunter Biden dealings).

3. "This M.O. has been repeated time and again by this crook"

"Repeated" is exaggerated. Investigations (e.g., first-term emoluments suits, various probes) produced allegations and civil scrutiny but few criminal convictions tied to presidential corruption. Trump faced multiple indictments, but many stalled or were dismissed post-election/immunity rulings.

He was convicted on 34 felony counts in New York (falsifying business records re: hush money)—a state case, not direct presidential corruption. Other cases (election-related) involved immunity debates and DOJ policy against prosecuting sitting presidents. No widespread "prosecutions for huge corruption" succeeded in locking him up.

4. "Grifting, lying"

• Grifting: Subjective term for self-enrichment. Trump's branding, books, and ventures predate and continue beyond politics. Critics see presidency as extension; supporters see legitimate business.

• Lying: Trump has well-documented false or exaggerated statements (fact-checkers tallied thousands). Common in politics on all sides—rhetoric, spin, hyperbole. Not unique.

5. "Rapist and paedophile"

• Rapist: Trump was found civilly liable for sexual abuse (E. Jean Carroll case, often described as rape in lay terms under New York law). He denies it and appealed. Multiple other allegations exist, but no criminal rape conviction. When asked in a jury verdict form if the evidence proved that Trump raped Carrol, the jury returned a "No" response.

• Paedophile (actual spelling pedophilia): This is unsubstantiated. Old dismissed lawsuits (e.g., anonymous "Katie Johnson" claims of raping a 13-year-old with Epstein) were dropped/withdrawn and lack credible corroboration. No charges, convictions, or credible evidence from Epstein files tying Trump to underage sex crimes. Epstein association existed socially (pre-conviction), but Trump banned him from Mar-a-Lago after an incident. Claims often recycled without proof.

These are serious accusations; civil liability ≠ criminal guilt, and unproven claims (especially anonymous/dismissed) should not be treated as fact.

Your post is highly, typical Trump hating partisan and emotionally charged. It mixes:

• Legitimate concerns (conflicts of interest, family profits, emoluments, ethics in government).

• Exaggertions/unproven claims (criminal "insider trading," repeated prosecutable corruption, "paedophile").

• No prosecution outcome: Despite intense scrutiny, Trump has not been "locked up" for the described corruption. Legal outcomes reflect divided government, immunity doctrines, and prosecutorial discretion.

Presidential businesses create inherent tensions—Trump didn't divest fully (unlike norms). Crypto windfalls and timed trades warrant oversight. However, "corruption" requires evidence of illegal acts, not just policy wins benefiting allies or family. Many similar accusations (across parties) rarely result in convictions due to high bars for proving intent.

Americans can disagree on Trump's style/ethics without the extreme labels. For balance, similar (or worse) family/business issues have been alleged against other prominent figures without equivalent outrage in all circles. Truth-seeking requires evidence over tribal rhetoric.

Aaaaĥ! Buba Clinton! 😀

4 minutes ago, team adanac said:

Hilarious you seething, deranged liberals. You're not "sincerely hoping" for justice. You're seething that the American people looked at the alternatives and picked Trump anyway and twice! Your post is the political equivalent of yelling at the sky: zero original thought, maximum partisan copium, and the intellectual honesty of a CNN chyron. Calling him a "grifting, lying... clown" while peddling unproven pedo conspiracies and criminal fantasies is peak projection. If your hatred was based on policy, fine. But this? It's lazy, fact-light tribal screaming. Touch grass, read primary sources instead of outrage bait, and maybe try arguing ideas instead of cartoon-villain fanfiction. Americans aren't "ashamed." A lot of them voted for the guy precisely because they’re tired of the unhinged hysteria. Try harder.

If you don't like the facts don't read the posts........no amount of MAGA butt-licking and diversions will change them! Not a MAGA fan, but am not a liberal either (right side of centre) so best I ignore you as "I can see the CULT is deep within you"!!!! LOL

2 hours ago, BLMFem said:

If US democracy survives the ongoing attempt at dismantling it and the midterms are actually going to be held, then that's the start of a looooong journey to repair some of the enormous damage this administration has been/is/will be causing. I say "some of the damage", because not everything can be fixed.

Trust and soft power earned over generations has been wiped out in little over a year, and it's not coming back.

This is classic unfalsifiable political rhetoric: "He's destroying everything, trust me bro." No mechanisms, no policies, no metrics, no timeline details. Just vibes and catastrophizing.

When someone, as in you, says "dismantling democracy" without naming specifics like:

• Suspending elections,

• Jailing opponents en masse,

• Shutting down opposition media,

• Canceling the Constitution,

…it usually means they dislike outcomes (policy wins, rhetoric, court rulings, or election results) and are dressing it up as existential threat. Actual democratic breakdowns (e.g., historical examples in Latin America, Turkey, Hungary, etc.) involve measurable steps: arresting rivals, censoring press, rigging rules, ignoring courts. None of that is happening here.

Your post is emotional venting disguised as analysis. No examples = no serious argument. US democracy has survived far worse (Civil War, Great Depression, world wars, scandals). Maybe being a Trump hating non American you can’t grasp rational analysis. Policy disagreements and bruised international feelings aren't "dismantling." If you have specific, evidence-based examples of irreversible democratic collapse, then share them. Your profound vagueness reveals it's mostly feelings with a secondary infection of pure derangement.

Repairing "damage" usually starts with lowering the temperature and engaging specifics instead of apocalyptic fanfiction.

11 minutes ago, team adanac said:

This is classic unfalsifiable political rhetoric: "He's destroying everything, trust me bro." No mechanisms, no policies, no metrics, no timeline details. Just vibes and catastrophizing.

When someone, as in you, says "dismantling democracy" without naming specifics like:

• Suspending elections,

• Jailing opponents en masse,

• Shutting down opposition media,

• Canceling the Constitution,

…it usually means they dislike outcomes (policy wins, rhetoric, court rulings, or election results) and are dressing it up as existential threat. Actual democratic breakdowns (e.g., historical examples in Latin America, Turkey, Hungary, etc.) involve measurable steps: arresting rivals, censoring press, rigging rules, ignoring courts. None of that is happening here.

Your post is emotional venting disguised as analysis. No examples = no serious argument. US democracy has survived far worse (Civil War, Great Depression, world wars, scandals). Maybe being a Trump hating non American you can’t grasp rational analysis. Policy disagreements and bruised international feelings aren't "dismantling." If you have specific, evidence-based examples of irreversible democratic collapse, then share them. Your profound vagueness reveals it's mostly feelings with a secondary infection of pure derangement.

Repairing "damage" usually starts with lowering the temperature and engaging specifics instead of apocalyptic fanfiction.

Splendid. So which AI wrote that reply?

4 minutes ago, team adanac said:

specifics like:

• Suspending elections,

• Jailing opponents en masse,

• Shutting down opposition media,

• Canceling the Constitution,

…it usually means they dislike outcomes (policy wins, rhetoric, court rulings, or election results) and are dressing it up as existential threat. Actual democratic breakdowns (e.g., historical examples in Latin America, Turkey, Hungary, etc.) involve measurable steps: arresting rivals, censoring press, rigging rules, ignoring courts. None of that is happening here.

You seem to believe that all that has to happen instantly. Usually, it doesn't happen like that, it happens slowly, same as in Turkey, Hungary etc.

All your examples has happened to some degree.

He tried to overrule an election (2020), he failed. I am pretty sure it was not his last attempt.

He is trying to jail opponents, James Comey, John Brennan, Jerome Powell etc. No luck so far, but it makes life hard for those people, and it discourages other people from trying to oppose him.

He is trying to shut down media, partly with lawsuits and partly through FCC.

There are several examples of him trying to cancel parts of the constitution, some successful (governing around congress) and some not - like the birthright.

Edited July 3Jul 3 by farang51