7 hours ago, cdulaney said:

The 2 Thumbs Down must be from you UK Boys.

Why don't you thumb down people do something positive for the World instead of sitting on the sidelines for others to do your fighting for you.

9 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

9 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

9 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

The Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) between Iran and P5 +1 (USA, UK, France, China, Russia plus Germany was crafted to do just what you fear. Trump tore that up and in the middle of the agreement that the previous Ayatollah Ali Khamenai agreed to down grade the uranium, Trump walk away from the talk and launched an unprovoke attack with Israel. They killed the moderate Ayatollah and replaced him by his more radical son. Iran now feel that they are compelled to accelerate its nuclear program to secure a deterrent against future attacks. Your fear has been accentuated by Trump following Israel lead to go to war.

Historically these guys say one thing and do the other....why do you think the agreement that you're talking about would actually happen?
it would be a first .....

6 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

This is as relevant as saying the war started after Hitler invaded Austria...

The difference being...This war started after Hamas raped and murdered thousands of Jews on October 7.

3 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

The world is not sick of the US as the world needs the US.

The majority of Australians think we need to look to our own defence, as America under Trump is so erratic and unreliable it is not an ally worth p!ssing on.

Perhaps you don't know the US has a positive trade balance with Australia, but still tariffs us, as if we did not.

Perhaps you don't know one tariff of 500% on pharmaceutical products achieves nothing but denying Americans access to medicines either the US can't make, or has not got sufficient production capacity to meet demand.

Perhaps you don't know Australians take exception to being called cowards by a bone-spurs draft-dodger, when we have spent our blood and treasure supporting your military adventures, and making ourselves a nuclear target for you.

This latest debacle has increased the cost of living in every country. Americans are getting off lightly, you have your own oil and food supply. Screw everyone else.

"The world is not sick of the US?" You're coming the raw prawn.

59 minutes ago, cdulaney said:

Why don't you thumb down people do something positive for the World instead of sitting on the sidelines for others to do your fighting for you.

You’ve been responding to your own posts.

Talking to yourself is one thing, answering yourself is on a different level of nuts.

1 hour ago, wombat said:

The difference being...This war started after Hamas raped and murdered thousands of Jews on October 7.

Not connected, even in the slightest. Who facilitated HAMAS? One Mr Netanyahu. Heard of him?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

Let's see how you try to implicate Iran...

Shouldnt she be concentrating on the fact that Britain is defenceless?

22 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Shouldnt she be concentrating on the fact that Britain is defenceless?

No, she’s the Chancellor of the Exchequer not the Secretary of Defence.

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No, she’s the Chancellor of the Exchequer not the Secretary of Defence.

Got it. British Ministers have no say in areas outside their departments.

8 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

This is as relevant as saying the war started after Hitler invaded Austria...

I'm not the least bit surprised you can't see the connection.

12 hours ago, wombat said:

I disagree with her 100%

What madrassa do you attend to gain such wisdom?

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You’ve been responding to your own posts.

Talking to yourself is one thing, answering yourself is on a different level of nuts.

Totally agree.

That's what brewster also said funnily enough.

6 hours ago, cdulaney said:

5 Thumbs Down, so I will have whatever you 5 are drinking.

Alway the right wing Trumpers who complain about little coloured pixels, no one else. What is it? Snowflakes.

8 hours ago, Lacessit said:

The majority of Australians think we need to look to our own defence, as America under Trump is so erratic and unreliable it is not an ally worth p!ssing on.

Perhaps you don't know the US has a positive trade balance with Australia, but still tariffs us, as if we did not.

Perhaps you don't know one tariff of 500% on pharmaceutical products achieves nothing but denying Americans access to medicines either the US can't make, or has not got sufficient production capacity to meet demand.

Perhaps you don't know Australians take exception to being called cowards by a bone-spurs draft-dodger, when we have spent our blood and treasure supporting your military adventures, and making ourselves a nuclear target for you.

This latest debacle has increased the cost of living in every country. Americans are getting off lightly, you have your own oil and food supply. Screw everyone else.

"The world is not sick of the US?" You're coming the raw prawn.

8 hours ago, Lacessit said:

Perhaps you shouldn't assume what others do or don't know. And believing Trump is all about this, That you know how all others think, even in your own country. That you know how being an American is, or the capabilities of America. That everyone gets all types of news, and much can be biased or false, including what you're listening to.

48 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Perhaps you shouldn't assume what others do or don't know. And believing Trump is all about this, That you know how all others think, even in your own country. That you know how being an American is, or the capabilities of America. That everyone gets all types of news, and much can be biased or false, including what you're listening to.

I do know that under Trump, America's reputation in the world has greatly diminished. You are led by a mob boss, with all the "values" that brings to the table. You can continue to delude yourself with your rah-rah jingoism. It doesn't change the fact the Iran war is a gigantic screw-up, that the rest of the world wants no part of.

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

I do know that under Trump, America's reputation in the world has greatly diminished. You are led by a mob boss, with all the "values" that brings to the table. You can continue to delude yourself with your rah-rah jingoism. It doesn't change the fact the Iran war is a gigantic screw-up, that the rest of the world wants no part of.

4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Can't answer for the rest of the world, as there are thousands of Iranians alone who are celebrating a possible better future, along with Iran's neighbors and those who were victims of it's regime. I never delude myself, preferring to go by actual facts and what will happen in the outcome of this conflict, which isn't what many think.

12 hours ago, IsmeUno said:

Not connected, even in the slightest. Who facilitated HAMAS? One Mr Netanyahu. Heard of him?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/

Let's see how you try to implicate Iran...

Personally I don't care ...that was then this is now and I stand by what I say... The only thing that's not evolving is people like you who hang on to history like it was the gold standard... Deal with it

13 minutes ago, wombat said:

Personally I don't care ...that was then this is now and I stand by what I say... The only thing that's not evolving is people like you who hang on to history like it was the gold standard... Deal with it

History tells you how to look at the present. Ignore history and you're misjudging the present.

22 hours ago, zyxwv said:

Barack obama made a deal...he was giving back money that belonged to Iran in exchange for inspectors watching that iran only enriched to 3.5% ....not close to a bomb.

Trump hates anything good obama did, torn up countless progressive ideas, called obama names, and screwed the iran deal.

There would not be this problem of a bomb if he hadnt torn up obama' s 2015 agreement.

Yes heaps of money paid to Iran...but it was frozen asset money

How do you explain the 60% enriched uranium?

3 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Can't answer for the rest of the world, as there are thousands of Iranians alone who are celebrating a possible better future, along with Iran's neighbors and those who were victims of it's regime. I never delude myself, preferring to go by actual facts and what will happen in the outcome of this conflict, which isn't what many think.

Iran is not the only country that desire a better future. Majority of citizens in the middle-east countries, often exceeding 73%, want democratic reforms. They want government that prioritize economic sustainability and social justice. They want democratic reform in countries rule by hereditary royal families which US backed. That is where the US claim about lack of democracy in Iran is hallow. US has been involved in many middle-east countries to prop up the government that they want. It is a form of terrorism by the CIA. US friendly middle-east countries have been expanding their military assets and US bases which Iran viewed as a threat. Are they victims of wrong policies?

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

History tells you how to look at the present. Ignore history and you're misjudging the present.

Past history of a person tells what future history will bring. Past history of a country, government, has no bearing on the future besides sticking to correct policies, as thinking by a new group or leader changes things that have been mistakes in the past.

5 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Iran is not the only country that desire a better future. Majority of citizens in the middle-east countries, often exceeding 73%, want democratic reforms. They want government that prioritize economic sustainability and social justice. They want democratic reform in countries rule by hereditary royal families which US backed. That is where the US claim about lack of democracy in Iran is hallow. US has been involved in many middle-east countries to prop up the government that they want. It is a form of terrorism by the CIA. US friendly middle-east countries have been expanding their military assets and US bases which Iran viewed as a threat. Are they victims of wrong policies?

Everyone and every country wants a better future, especially those who've had terrorism in their thinking like the Middle east has. The country doesn't have to adopt everything the US sees as fit. Democracy is the best form of government we have, which people in other countries have seen and want for themselves. Putting all the decisions into one's hands can bring problems unless the people have the right to remove and elect another.

1 hour ago, wombat said:

Personally I don't care ...that was then this is now and I stand by what I say... The only thing that's not evolving is people like you who hang on to history like it was the gold standard... Deal with it

What kind of rubbish post was that? Hahahahahahahahaha 🤣 Like a petulant child who has no intelligent rebuttal.

I asked you how you would implicate Iran in your scenario. That IS now, isn't it?

Why not just admit that you cannot link Iran to your nonsense theory?

Just as an aside, even though Israel supposedly has a ceasefire with HAMAS, they are of course breaching those conditions, by funding militants to attack them.

Iran's fault? 😊

Try...at least try, to come up with something plausible.

16 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Past history of a person tells what future history will bring. Past history of a country, government, has no bearing on the future besides sticking to correct policies, as thinking by a new group or leader changes things that have been mistakes in the past.

...or they can create new mistakes. You wrote lots of words, but ultimately, overall, it made little to no sense.

1 minute ago, IsmeUno said:

...or they can create new mistakes. You wrote lots of words, but ultimately, overall, it made little to no sense.

This is a fault of yours, which leads you into many arguments here. You need to better educate yourself on subjects, read up on learning better comprehension skills and completely stop the assuming, as it's always a failure and your go-to in every topic.

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

How do you explain the 60% enriched uranium?

That happened after the Israelis bombed Natanz in 2021... these things escalate.

But I think you know that.

Just now, fredwiggy said:

This is a fault of yours, which leads you into many arguments here. You need to better educate yourself on subjects, read up on learning better comprehension skills and completely stop the assuming, as it's always a failure and your go-to in every topic.

Sure...shall we discuss the details, rather than the elementary school commentary you post here?

Where are these facts to which you allude and what do you think will be the outcome of the attack on Iran?

3 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

Sure...shall we discuss the details, rather than the elementary school commentary you post here?

Where are these facts to which you allude and what do you think will be the outcome of the attack on Iran?

Instead of following me around with your thumbs downs, try reading more on those subjects, as you seem to know very little about what really goes on in the world, yet assume you're an expert.

I've seen what's been going on since the beginning, and being an American and know how things are done there, also have seen that this has been a plan for a long time, whereas many who hate Trump automatically are against what America does, thinking it's all about Trump and oil. Guessing about the outcome will have many to be proven wrong, exactly for that reason. I don't make opinions and simply wait for the end result, which those many will see is a lot different than what they've been assuming all along.

I knew the tankers would be coming to America as soon as the Strait was closed, as did everyone else, Americans, I've talked to about this. This is why I remain in the middle and watch, as being an American, we know how and why things are done without that prejudiced or podcast allusions in our thinking.

You thinking it's elementary school thinking is your personality again rearing it's head, as you can't comment to anyone without adding a childish shot, much like you just did before going after mine. No, go and bother someone else, or take your girlfriends out so they can buy you lunch.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Instead of following me around with your thumbs downs, try reading more on those subjects, as you seem to know very little about what really goes on in the world, yet assume you're an expert.

I've seen what's been going on since the beginning, and being an American and know how things are done there, also have seen that this has been a plan for a long time, whereas many who hate Trump automatically are against what America does, thinking it's all about Trump and oil. Guessing about the outcome will have many to be proven wrong, exactly for that reason. I don't make opinions and simply wait for the end result, which those many will see is a lot different than what they've been assuming all along.

I knew the tankers would be coming to America as soon as the Strait was closed, as did everyone else, Americans, I've talked to about this. This is why I remain in the middle and watch, as being an American, we know how and why things are done without that prejudiced or podcast allusions in our thinking.

You thinking it's elementary school thinking is your personality again rearing it's head, as you can't comment to anyone without adding a childish shot, much like you just did before going after mine. No, go and bother someone else, or take your girlfriends out so they can buy you lunch.

Talking loud, but saying nothing. 235 words of waffle.

Why not tell us all what is going on? I guess you are going to keep it a secret until the end and then tell us that you knew it all anyway. Do you imagine that you are the only American on this board? You are just full of it.

1 minute ago, IsmeUno said:

Talking loud, but saying nothing. 235 words of waffle.

Why not tell us all what is going on? I guess you are going to keep it a secret until the end and then tell us that you knew it all anyway. Do you imagine that you are the only American on this board? You are just full of it.

Seeing you have that poor memory, try and remember what I've said all along. If you can't, you can take some time and read it up. The other Americans have said much the same as I have for exactly the same reasons. We aren't assuming but live it everyday, even if we dislike or like Trump. Who's full of it is you, but being that personality type, you'll never admit defeat, but come back and look all the more foolish every day, so again, pester another, and see how they interact with you, as I'm done.