On 6/17/2026 at 9:27 AM, BritManToo said:

Obviously it was the car at fault.

Or dodgy Thai electrical connection at home?

18 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

Apparently it does happen in China... quite a few examples if you search for them.

18 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

Apparently it does happen in China... quite a few examples if you search for them.

19 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

Apparently it does happen in China... quite a few examples if you search for them.

IMO that’s a Reddit urban myth. Look at the car in the video you posted, there’s no sign of fire.

I called up a couple of friends who live in China, albeit both in Guangdong, neither think that this is a thing.

Of course there maybe individual instances, but it’s not a systemic practice at all. I can say from personal experience in Guangdong the EV car experience is both good and extremely prevalent. So many EV’s now compared to 10 years ago.

The world can mock, but reality is that the Chinese have done an amazing job on the ev front, just as they have with solar panels and wind farms.

28 minutes ago, wensiensheng said:

IMO that’s a Reddit urban myth. Look at the car in the video you posted, there’s no sign of fire.

I called up a couple of friends who live in China, albeit both in Guangdong, neither think that this is a thing.

Of course there maybe individual instances, but it’s not a systemic practice at all. I can say from personal experience in Guangdong the EV car experience is both good and extremely prevalent. So many EV’s now compared to 10 years ago.

The world can mock, but reality is that the Chinese have done an amazing job on the ev front, just as they have with solar panels and wind farms.

The so called myth explained in a video.

Or written report

https://www.autotimes.net/arcfoxs-new-car-catches-fire-and-the-manufacturer-covers-it-with-a-black-cloth-and-pries-off-the-car-logo-the-official-apology

13 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

Bring back the days when we had actual cars, you know… something exciting to drive. I'll take a jaguar over a dolphin, personally.

Yes, this looks so much better.

On 6/17/2026 at 11:33 AM, Ralf001 said:

so...... root cause circles back to BYD !

How many cars have BYD sold globally? So would all of them, or at least a majority will catch fire as per your theory?

Please let us know. Education is valuable.

17 minutes ago, ravip said:

How many cars have BYD sold globally? So would all of them, or at least a majority will catch fire as per your theory?

Please let us know. Education is valuable.

Where did I mention numbers ?

9 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

I agree that cars in general have become dull and generic… but EVs have exacerbated this trend. I mean come on, who in their right mind willingly drives a car called Dolphin… 😂 (to the Dolphin drivers, just joshing).

Just a matter of opinion... and yours only, for whatever it's worth for.

14 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Where did I mention numbers ?

Of course not, you're 100% correct.

You said "The charger supplied by BYD is the root cause ?" - you were referring ONLY to this particular charger , I guess?

Sorry my mistake.

Did you investigate this fire or have any reliable data about it?

41 minutes ago, NoDisplayName said:

Yes, this looks so much better.

OMG… I'd forgotten they'd been struck by the Woke virus. They lost their way long ago though, the 'generic', shapeless car trend began in the 2000s across most brands and segments.

7 hours ago, rocketboy2 said:

Oh, I had you down as more of a, C5 , EV type of guy.

Yeah I've been up to my usual shenanigans:

3 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

No but if it were not for the electric car the house would still be there. Asian/Indonesian logic.

The only one to express that bizarre logic was you, not any Asian/Indonesians.

1 hour ago, ravip said:

Of course not, you're 100% correct.

You said "The charger supplied by BYD is the root cause ?" - you were referring ONLY to this particular charger , I guess?

Did BYD supply an off brand charger with their new vehicle ?

1 hour ago, NoDisplayName said:

Yes, this looks so much better.

What looks so much better? There's no car shown there.

15 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

not any Asian/Indonesians.

If you are driving in Indonesia and have a collision you will automatically be at fault.

Logic? If you were not in Indonesia the collision would not have happened.

Their logic not mine.

4 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

If you are driving in Indonesia and have a collision you will automatically be at fault.

Logic? If you were not in Indonesia the collision would not have happened.

Their logic not mine.

Must be contagious ..................as I seem to remember hearing that arriving on Thai shores.............

21 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Did BYD supply an off brand charger with their new vehicle ?

😁BYD is more professional than that, me thinks!

On the same logic would Tesla supply a BYD charger?

10 minutes ago, Ralf001 said:

Did BYD supply an off brand charger with their new vehicle ?

Not all BYD car deals include chargers.

2 hours ago, Fruit Trader said:

The so called myth explained in a video.

Or written report

https://www.autotimes.net/arcfoxs-new-car-catches-fire-and-the-manufacturer-covers-it-with-a-black-cloth-and-pries-off-the-car-logo-the-official-apology

Yes. No denying that one instance which is the same one you previously referenced.

One instance, or a few instances get extrapolated to become a systematic regular happening and a basically isolated instance becomes an urban myth.

Arcfox is a new brand on me. I see they sold 11k cars a year in its record year after Covid. But it’s been insolvent for a few years and sold less than that recently.

Interestingly, that video goes on to absolutely trash EV’s in general and after listening to it all no one in their right mind would buy an ev because it simply sets out the case that every ev is a death trap that is about to explode at any minute.

Of course Chinese observer is primarily known for offering critical commentary on the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and Chinese civil society. which may surprise some who think that is prohibited.

But nevertheless, I’m not seeing it as a systematic process that happens at multiple ev fires, not least because I do not believe that there are multiple regular ev fires. It can happen, but in the context of the numbers of ev cars, it’s just not an every day thing.

Despite what people might think, provincial authorities clamp down pretty hard on sub standard dangerous products such as spontaneously igniting EV’s. And imho, they would not permit such incidents to tarnish the reputation of Chinese EV’s generally.

I have googled ev cars catching fire and also ice engine cars catching fire. Which was interesting.

“No, electric vehicles (EVs) catch fire significantly less often than internal combustion engine (ICE) cars. Multiple global studies and transportation data show that gasoline and diesel vehicles are roughly 20 to 80 times more likely to experience a fire than battery electric vehicles”

Anyway, I take your point about that vehicle fire and the removal of its logos. It wasn’t something that I knew about. But I still have to stand by my belief that it’s not a common occurrence.

47 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

If you are driving in Indonesia and have a collision you will automatically be at fault.

Logic? If you were not in Indonesia the collision would not have happened.

Their logic not mine.

Legally, that's complete b0llocks. Indonesian law, not mine.

44 minutes ago, Off Piste said:

Must be contagious ..................as I seem to remember hearing that arriving on Thai shores.............

Unfortunately, urban myth does tend to be contagious... amongst the gullible.

1 hour ago, VocalNeal said:

If you are driving in Indonesia and have a collision you will automatically be at fault.

Logic? If you were not in Indonesia the collision would not have happened.

Their logic not mine.

Mr pendant knows better, probably been in Asia for about 5 minutes and now an expert on everything.

12 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Legally, that's complete b0llocks. Indonesian law, not mine.

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Unfortunately, urban myth does tend to be contagious... amongst the gullible.

For how many years have you actually lived in Indonesia? Obviously none.

When I lived their we were told if you get into a traffic collision and the car is still mobile, drive back to the site and report the collision to the head of HR. He will send the vehicle back to the collision site with a company driver.

None of the guys I worked with were gullible as such; although a couple did fall for obvious pranks. More naive than gulible.

7 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

Indonesian law, not mine.

1 hour ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Unfortunately, urban myth does tend to be contagious... amongst the gullible.

For how many years have you actually lived in Indonesia? Obviously none

No one needs to live in Indonesia to be able to reference the actual laws of the country.

2 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No one needs to live in Indonesia to be able to reference the actual laws of the country.

I'll take that as never then. Dan siapa pun bisa melakukan ini.

On 6/17/2026 at 5:48 AM, Crossy said:

The Dolphin uses BYD's Blade Battery which uses the safer LiFePO4 chemistry.

The battery is under the vehicle floorpan.

At the time of the photo the battery was likely not involved.

A fault in the charging system or poor electrical installation possibly.

It's quite possible that the fire started elsewhere and spread to the car.

It’s possible that anything can happen in Thailand !

Nobody who owns an EV would think it's the car.

On 6/17/2026 at 7:59 AM, Ralf001 said:

Look, we all know you are an EV fanboi and the companies can do no wrong.

EVs don't spontaneously catch fire while charging. Thai electrical work, on the other hand....

9 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

No one needs to live in Indonesia to be able to reference the actual laws of the country.

Wow, your local knowledge is unbelievable.

Why do EV fires always elicit such fervour in the press and with certain individuals on forums? Why do certain people get so gleefully passionate about an EV catching fire? Does it have something to do with their sect leader being paid enormous amounts by the powerful oil industry to promote their product at the expense of alternative power?

The fact is that statistically (fires per 100k units) EV fires are far less common than with gasoline cars. I've seen scores of conventional cars in flames on the road. I don't know how many times I've seen vids of Lamborghinis going up in flames because their super-hot exhausts are too close to fuel lines. Any type of power train could catch alight; the presence of an explosive liquid makes it more likely with those types of car.

"EV fires are far rarer than fires in gasoline cars; globally, battery electric vehicles have about 25 fires per 100,000 sold (~0.025%), while internal combustion engine vehicles have roughly 1,530 fires per 100,000 (~1.53%)."

8 hours ago, Artisi said:

No one needs to live in Indonesia to be able to reference the actual laws of the country.

Wow, your local knowledge is unbelievable

Thank you, my ability to read statutes is not that bad either.

5 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Thank you, my ability to read statutes is not that bad either.

Maybe so, but unfortunately you don't understand about what really goes on in real life.