1 hour ago, 3NUMBAS said:

No. 10 North is a proposal by Labour Party leader 

Andy Burnham

 to move part of the British Prime Minister's Office (known metonymically as 

No. 10 Downing Street

) from London to Manchester in the North of England.

Is that in reply to me? There's a handy "quote" button that makes it clear who you are replying to - I know many people struggle with it.

Yes, he said he will decentralise government to a certain extent, giving regions more control over local spending, transport, housing, skills and economic growth. As a northerner who has seen how a centralised government completely and deliberately neglected northern cities for decades this is surely a good thing.

It is hardly "moving number 10 plus other grand schemes spending billions" is it.

12 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Thank you for repeating your gross perjorative generalizations as evidence that you are indeed a racist.

Pensioners sharing the burden of the damage they disproportionately supported is not a punishment.

If you think repeatedly calling me a racist will cause me to shrivel up and die like a vampire on exposure to sunlight you are mistaken. The tired old discussion and thought terminating cliches of the left , Fascist ,Nazi, Racist, Right wing Extremist, Bigot etc etc , have long since lost their impact , nobody cares anymore , its water off a duck's back .

You have no Idea which way any pensioners voted regarding brexit , many who are pensioners now where not pensioners at the time , and many who were pensioners at the time are now dead and buried, so you should stop spouting your rubbish,

I don't know what the correct word is for somebody that would sickeningly deny vulnerable pensioners a decent and dignified retirement in order to accommodate illegal immigrants, I can think of one or two that seem appropriate but they would be censored out

38 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

If you think repeatedly calling me a racist will cause me to shrivel up and die like a vampire on exposure to sunlight you are mistaken. The tired old discussion and thought terminating cliches of the left , Fascist ,Nazi, Racist, Right wing Extremist, Bigot etc etc , have long since lost their impact , nobody cares anymore , its water off a duck's back .

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You have no Idea which way any pensioners voted regarding brexit , many who are pensioners now where not pensioners at the time , and many who were pensioners at the time are now dead and buried, so you should stop spouting your rubbish,

I don't know what the correct word is for somebody that would sickeningly deny vulnerable pensioners a decent and dignified retirement in order to accommodate illegal immigrants, I can think of one or two that seem appropriate but they would be censored out

I never claimed to know which way any pensioners voted in Brexit.

However, as a demographic group they did predominantly vote for Brexit, as did the cohort approaching retirement.

£180-240 Billion of damage to the economy whole at the same time destroying opportunities for the young.

It’s not punishment to let them share the burden of the damage they voted for.

And no sharing the burden with the people who voted for it is not accommodating ‘illegal immigrants’ at cost to pensioners.

Rubbish you say.

The kind that’s back by data I say:

BBC News

Brexit: How much of a generation gap is there?

Many young Remain supporters blame older voters for Brexit. Is there really a generational divide?

Edited July 19Jul 19 by Chomper Higgot

Little something here about Lady Thatcher and what she achieved 👇🏼

•⁠ ⁠Top rate of income tax: 83% → 40%
•⁠ ⁠Basic rate: 33% → 25%
•⁠ ⁠Inflation: 21.9% peak (1980) → 2.4% (1986)
•⁠ ⁠Days lost to strikes: 29.5 million (1979) → 1.9 million (1990)
•⁠ ⁠Real take-home pay for the average earner: up by a third
•⁠ ⁠Right to Buy: over a million council tenants became homeowners
•⁠ ⁠Home ownership: 55% → 67%
•⁠ ⁠Individual shareholders: 3 million → 11 million — one in four adults
•⁠ ⁠Foreign holidays: roughly doubled
•⁠ ⁠Homes with a telephone: two-thirds → nearly nine in ten
•⁠ ⁠Pensioners' average incomes: up around 30% in real terms
•⁠ ⁠Infant mortality: down almost 40%
•⁠ ⁠Real GDP: up by almost a third
•⁠ ⁠GDP per head outgrew France, Germany and Italy in the 1980s
•⁠ ⁠Manufacturing productivity: slowest growth in the G7 in the 1970s → fastest in the 1980s
•⁠ ⁠Self-employed: 1.9 million → 3.5 million
•⁠ ⁠Nissan to Sunderland, Toyota to Derby, Honda to Swindon
•⁠ ⁠Britain became a net oil exporter
•⁠ ⁠London restored as the world's financial capital in 1986
•⁠ ⁠Budget surpluses three years running — Britain repaid debt, 1987–90
•⁠ ⁠National debt: 47% of GDP → 28%
•⁠ ⁠State spending: ~45% of GDP → ~39%
•⁠ ⁠The civil service: 732,000 → 565,000
•⁠ ⁠Corporation tax: 52% → 35%; the small firms' rate: 42% → 25%
•⁠ ⁠Personal tax allowances: up more than 25% in real terms
•⁠ ⁠Higher rates of income tax: nine → one
•⁠ ⁠Death duties: fourteen rates → one
•⁠ ⁠Exchange controls scrapped after 40 years
•⁠ ⁠40+ nationalised businesses privatised — 600,000 employees moved to the private sector
•⁠ ⁠The 33 big state industries: took ~£500m from taxpayers in 1980 → paid £8.4bn to the Exchequer by 1987
•⁠ ⁠British Steel: world-record loss-maker (1980/81) → £733m profit (1989/90)
•⁠ ⁠BT, 1984: the largest share offer the world had ever seen
•⁠ ⁠"Tell Sid" broke the record again in 1986
•⁠ ⁠British Airways: nationalised loss-maker → profitable, private, "the world's favourite airline"
•⁠ ⁠The Channel Tunnel: launched — entirely privately financed
•⁠ ⁠The Falklands liberated in 74 days
•⁠ ⁠Backed Gorbachev early, stood with Reagan, and won the Cold War
•⁠ ⁠Three consecutive election victories and the longest-serving PM of the twentieth century ✌🏼🇬🇧

2 minutes ago, FinChin67 said:

Little something here about Lady Thatcher and what she achieved 👇🏼

•⁠ ⁠Top rate of income tax: 83% → 40%
•⁠ ⁠Basic rate: 33% → 25%
•⁠ ⁠Inflation: 21.9% peak (1980) → 2.4% (1986)
•⁠ ⁠Days lost to strikes: 29.5 million (1979) → 1.9 million (1990)
•⁠ ⁠Real take-home pay for the average earner: up by a third
•⁠ ⁠Right to Buy: over a million council tenants became homeowners
•⁠ ⁠Home ownership: 55% → 67%
•⁠ ⁠Individual shareholders: 3 million → 11 million — one in four adults
•⁠ ⁠Foreign holidays: roughly doubled
•⁠ ⁠Homes with a telephone: two-thirds → nearly nine in ten
•⁠ ⁠Pensioners' average incomes: up around 30% in real terms
•⁠ ⁠Infant mortality: down almost 40%
•⁠ ⁠Real GDP: up by almost a third
•⁠ ⁠GDP per head outgrew France, Germany and Italy in the 1980s
•⁠ ⁠Manufacturing productivity: slowest growth in the G7 in the 1970s → fastest in the 1980s
•⁠ ⁠Self-employed: 1.9 million → 3.5 million
•⁠ ⁠Nissan to Sunderland, Toyota to Derby, Honda to Swindon
•⁠ ⁠Britain became a net oil exporter
•⁠ ⁠London restored as the world's financial capital in 1986
•⁠ ⁠Budget surpluses three years running — Britain repaid debt, 1987–90
•⁠ ⁠National debt: 47% of GDP → 28%
•⁠ ⁠State spending: ~45% of GDP → ~39%
•⁠ ⁠The civil service: 732,000 → 565,000
•⁠ ⁠Corporation tax: 52% → 35%; the small firms' rate: 42% → 25%
•⁠ ⁠Personal tax allowances: up more than 25% in real terms
•⁠ ⁠Higher rates of income tax: nine → one
•⁠ ⁠Death duties: fourteen rates → one
•⁠ ⁠Exchange controls scrapped after 40 years
•⁠ ⁠40+ nationalised businesses privatised — 600,000 employees moved to the private sector
•⁠ ⁠The 33 big state industries: took ~£500m from taxpayers in 1980 → paid £8.4bn to the Exchequer by 1987
•⁠ ⁠British Steel: world-record loss-maker (1980/81) → £733m profit (1989/90)
•⁠ ⁠BT, 1984: the largest share offer the world had ever seen
•⁠ ⁠"Tell Sid" broke the record again in 1986
•⁠ ⁠British Airways: nationalised loss-maker → profitable, private, "the world's favourite airline"
•⁠ ⁠The Channel Tunnel: launched — entirely privately financed
•⁠ ⁠The Falklands liberated in 74 days
•⁠ ⁠Backed Gorbachev early, stood with Reagan, and won the Cold War
•⁠ ⁠Three consecutive election victories and the longest-serving PM of the twentieth century ✌🏼🇬🇧

simply the best , nothing more need be said

58 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I never claimed to know which way any pensioners voted in Brexit.

However, as a demographic group they did predominantly vote for Brexit, as did the cohort approaching retirement.

£180-240 Billion of damage to the economy whole at the same time destroying opportunities for the young.

It’s not punishment to let them share the burden of the damage they voted for.

And no sharing the burden with the people who voted for it is not accommodating ‘illegal immigrants’ at cost to pensioners.

Rubbish you say.

The kind that’s back by data I say:

BBC News

Brexit: How much of a generation gap is there?

Many young Remain supporters blame older voters for Brexit. Is there really a generational divide?

sickening and laughable at the same time ,

17 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

Any EU military would ne busy controlling things over there I reckon it will kick off in Ireland first, then the UK. France would soon follow as will Germany, The Scandinavian Countries and Italy, Only the likes of Poland and Hungary will escape the violence

It could kick off all at the same time, but unlikely. The EU is a sparse area. Combatants would be more concentrated in the UK, and the island easier to take. The UK will be the first domino to fall.