When dealing with Italians, you must speak-a their language if you want to tell them off...

First whip out an accordian. 😄

What's-a matter you? Hey! Gotta no respect?
What-a you t'ink you do, why you look-a so sad?
It's-a not so bad, it's-a nice-a place
Ah shaddap-a you face!

We all know that there's no sincerity in the apology of the Italian group for what they are and what they did.

14 hours ago, John Drake said:

Everybody better be careful and make sure you're not having a bad day when Sugar is around.

Sugar in her trendy Mardi t-shirt makes a police complaint, speaks to reports and gives her side of the story. Unfortunately, there is nothing from the student's side except the widely published apology. She says the adult said '<deleted> you' - if that's true then she certainly has a case. What I'm still not clear on is who started the 'disrespecet and confrontations' in the first place - it seems the students were arguing/debating loudly amongst themselves but weren't engaging with anyone outside their group when Sugar intervenes. And what are the police supposed to do anyway?

9 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

How many times have you been on the BTS and have had Thais blasting their music or shouting in to a speaker phone?

I would say zero.

I've never taken the BTS. I'd rather be stabbed in the eye than spend an hour in Bangkok or any other major city. I travel on two wheels or two feet. My statement was about my experiences in Thailand in general. Most of the Thais I've come across were courteous folk but oftentimes that did not extend to noise, especially from phones. The fact that neighbours often end up killing each other over noise disputes lends credence to my claim.

This is the very definition of a Thai buffoon and it's quite ironic when a Thai person complains about noise. Most Thai people don't even seem to hear noise when it's happening.

I'm telling these people that they have no right to use the train that they were using is the absolute epitome of stupidity and arrogance. Everything should be done to shame this absolute fool.

2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Aren't there laws here about filming people without permission?

I think so. But we all know the police won't charge the woman. In fact, as I mentioned in another post, she's probably guilty of libel by filming them, telling them they have no respect and generally berating them - then broadcasting it across TikTok. In Thailand, libel is a criminal charge - and if you harm someone's reputation (even if they deserved to have reputation harmed) you are guilty - because you broadcast it to others and could serve time in prison.

48 minutes ago, flaming dragon said:

I've never taken the BTS. I'd rather be stabbed in the eye than spend an hour in Bangkok or any other major city. I travel on two wheels or two feet. My statement was about my experiences in Thailand in general. Most of the Thais I've come across were courteous folk but oftentimes that did not extend to noise, especially from phones. The fact that neighbours often end up killing each other over noise disputes lends credence to my claim.

The BTS is one of the most amazing public transportation systems I've ever used anywhere in the world. The fact that you don't like Bangkok or big cities is entirely on you, but it's not particularly germaine to the topic.

3 hours ago, LivingNThailand said:

I figure that someone is going to get fired or severely reprimanded. I mean, they got the Italian Embassy involved. That's some serious s--t.

I think without a doubt that will happen. What I'm not clear on, is whether the adult doing a poor job of 'chaperoning' the kids is a teacher or a staff member from the tour group. If she's a teacher, she's in big trouble back home and the school is in big trouble too. The tour operator could be in trouble with Thailand TOT too.

Edited July 26Jul 26 by ronnie50

How come they don't complain about the Chinese?

14 hours ago, TedG said:

Someone just sent me this:

Well, this is quite a different reaction to, say, events back in 2018 or 2019 (can't remember exactly) when a Thai immigration officer slapped an unruly Chinese tourist. That time, it was the officer to had to apologize. And the entire Thai government apologized to the Chinese, because the PRC was making threats. Thai greeters were even hired to personally pose with Chinese coming from and going back to China. Here, the Italians have thrown their own citizens under the bus.

19 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

for the comment about "bringing money into the country," that's a common expression used worldwide by pompous, arrogant, self-important people who feel they're being unnecessarily berated by a local over something trivial.

They were kids

I know, pompous, arrogant, self-important kids.

1 hour ago, ronnie50 said:

The tour operator could be in trouble with Thailand TOT too.

Nonsense, there's not the slightest chance that what was the Telephone Organization of Thailand will involve themselves in this.

2 hours ago, ronnie50 said:

Sugar in her trendy Mardi t-shirt makes a police complaint, speaks to reports and gives her side of the story. Unfortunately, there is nothing from the student's side except the widely published apology. She says the adult said '<deleted> you' - if that's true then she certainly has a case. What I'm still not clear on is who started the 'disrespecet and confrontations' in the first place - it seems the students were arguing/debating loudly amongst themselves but weren't engaging with anyone outside their group when Sugar intervenes. And what are the police supposed to do anyway?

Is Sugar wearing a red MAGA baseball cap in these photos?

On 7/25/2026 at 4:00 AM, Georgealbert said:

A Thai woman and a group of Italian tourists were involved in a heated argument aboard an train after she complained that they were making too much noise, according to a video shared on TikTok.

The clip, posted by user 1234aaawry and reported by Manager Online on 24 July 2026, has prompted widespread online debate. There has been no confirmation of the incident from relevant authorities or the other party involved.

Footage shows row over noise

The video shows the tourist group talking loudly and shouting inside the carriage, prompting the Thai woman, who filmed the exchange, to take out her phone and record them.

One of the tourists then appeared to swat at or cover the camera in an apparent attempt to stop the recording. The woman told them: "Please tell them to be quiet."

The warning escalated the situation. A male tourist reportedly asked her angrily, using an expletive, what her problem was.

The woman said she wanted the group to keep their voices at a normal level because they were in a public place and should not disturb other passengers.

Argument turns personal

A member of the tourist group responded with a remark which included an expletive and was translated as: "Sorry for bringing money into your country."

Both sides then exchanged insults. The tourists said they had been loud because they did not know which station they needed to get off at, claiming their guide had not given them the information.

The woman replied that, if they were tourists, they should use the Sukhumvit line instead, saying the route they were travelling on was mainly used by local people for their daily commute.

Towards the end of the clip, some members of the group said they would call police, saying there was a person under 18 in their group. The woman replied: "Call the police." As the train reached the next station, both sides shouted "bye-bye" at each other sarcastically before separating.

What visitors should take from it

For foreigners living in Thailand or visiting the country, the dispute is a reminder that public transport is generally treated as a shared, relatively quiet space, particularly during commuting hours. Being unfamiliar with a route or station is unlikely to be seen by fellow passengers as a reason to disturb a carriage.

Online commenters were divided, although many backed the woman's decision to challenge the noise. Several criticised the suggestion that spending money in Thailand could excuse ignoring local manners or rules.

The video continues to be shared and discussed online.

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"In Thailand we do not scream".

I suppose she was trying to create a Comedy movie. Maybe her first (and last time) as "Digital Creator"?🤡

3 hours ago, flaming dragon said:

I've never taken the BTS. I'd rather be stabbed in the eye than spend an hour in Bangkok or any other major city. I travel on two wheels or two feet. My statement was about my experiences in Thailand in general. Most of the Thais I've come across were courteous folk but oftentimes that did not extend to noise, especially from phones. The fact that neighbours often end up killing each other over noise disputes lends credence to my claim.

Right. So you made up something to get indignant about.

"My only question is how many Thais has she lectured about making noise on public transit? They blast their music on their phone and shout into the phone set on speaker for all to hear"

Never been on the BTS.

3 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I know, pompous, arrogant, self-important kids.

While they were just stating a fact of life. And when it comes to that idiot Thai woman , instead of apologising the Italian Embassy should have provided a good lawyer to those kids, since she broke both the the Defamation law and the Computer Crimes Act.

21 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

Travelling should be about understanding where you are, and appreciating what makes that place unique. The best travellers do not simply visit a culture. They listen to it, and learn from it. If you can't do that, maybe you should travel less.

You simply overlook the fact that Thailand has been advertising "Sea, sun and sex" for half a century. And then, if saying that tourists are spending their hard earned cash to the benefit of millions of Thai people is so offensive to the locals they should consider shutting down the whole tourist industry.

2 minutes ago, Peter Crow said:

You simply overlook the fact that Thailand has been advertising "Sea, sun and sex" for half a century. And then, if saying that tourists are spending their hard earned cash to the benefit of millions of Thai people is so offensive to the locals they should consider shutting down the whole tourist industry.

I must have missed those adverts. Do you have a link?

52 minutes ago, Peter Crow said:

You simply overlook the fact that Thailand has been advertising "Sea, sun and sex" for half a century. And then, if saying that tourists are spending their hard earned cash to the benefit of millions of Thai people is so offensive to the locals they should consider shutting down the whole tourist industry.

Thailandcultural experiences

Hi,

I don't think that was my quote previously that you quoted in your response to me?

I've looked back through the posts, I knew this didn't sound like me, I can't find me saying that what you quoted I said, anywhere.

Edited July 26Jul 26 by Scouse123

1 hour ago, Peter Crow said:

You simply overlook the fact that Thailand has been advertising "Sea, sun and sex" for half a century. And then, if saying that tourists are spending their hard earned cash to the benefit of millions of Thai people is so offensive to the locals they should consider shutting down the whole tourist industry.

I wouldn't have said what you misquoted me on, as I agree totally with the above post.

All through this thread I have stated this is a ridiculous ' storm in a teacup ' and should never have got the social media coverage and involvement of Embassies when there are real issues to address, such as the deaths of all those people in the fire in Bangkok very recently.

Why don't the authorities busy themselves up with something useful.

Edited July 26Jul 26 by Scouse123

1 hour ago, Peter Crow said:

You simply overlook the fact that Thailand has been advertising "Sea, sun and sex" for half a century. And then, if saying that tourists are spending their hard earned cash to the benefit of millions of Thai people is so offensive to the locals they should consider shutting down the whole tourist industry.

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

I must have missed those adverts. Do you have a link?

He missed two ' S's ' scams and sinsod.

On 7/25/2026 at 2:41 PM, Gecko123 said:

A good example of a growing and unhealthy and xenophobic Thai social media trend which attempts to document and amplify every possible example that presents itself of foreigners disrespecting Thais or misbehaving. You can't tell me that the Thai woman wasn't recording the incident without the foreknowledge that it might be good content for her social media accounts. The group of Italians were boisterous and should have toned it down when requested, but the Thai woman's profanity and protracted arguing didn't exactly help the situation either.

I agree with the assessment that the Anutin government has played a role in fomenting resentments towards foreigners. The government has legitimized anti-foreigner sentiment, and has given tacit permission for long simmering resentments to be voiced. With help from the news media and social media it has created the impression that foreigners are all land thieves, scam artists, murderers, rapists, Interpol fugitives, money launderers, freeloaders, economic refugees from the West who continually show an exploitative and disrespectful attitude towards Thai people. These sentiments seem to ebb and flow from time to time, usually rising whenever the economy tightens, but I am convinced that the government exploits these nationalistic sentiments for political gain, in much the same way that Trump and other Western politicians have exploited anti-immigrant sentiment in the West.

Foreigners who behave badly attract attention in all countries, not only in Thailand.

On 7/25/2026 at 2:35 PM, Georgealbert said:

He added that making excessive noise on the BTS, a public transport service, could potentially amount to causing a public nuisance or breaching the operator's rules. Any offence would depend on the circumstances and relevant regulations.

Videos and images shared online can be important evidence for officers considering whether to take legal action, Trairong said.

If shared on social media "Videos and images" contravene the both the Computer Crimes Act and the law on defamation. Hence should be prosecuted accordingly, Mr Trairon.

Edited July 26Jul 26 by Peter Crow

1 hour ago, Scouse123 said:

Hi,

I don't think that was my quote previously that you quoted in your response to me?

I've looked back through the posts, I knew this didn't sound like me, I can't find me saying that what you quoted I said, anywhere.

You are right, apologies, I somehow edited it out of your own reply to the Sea Goat@Cabradelmar .

1 minute ago, Thingamabob said:

Foreigners who behave badly attract attention in all countries, not only in Thailand.

True enough, but there seems to be a trend on Thai social media where people are trying to outdo one another by actively hunting for examples of foreigners causing problems. Two examples come to mind: the guy in Phuket (? ) who posted a video accusing two Russian (?) women of kidnapping his cat, and the tuk tuk driver in Phuket who posted a video of an Israeli (?) guy panhandling with a kid in tow. Plus a pretty steady stream of videos of fights and altercations, shoplifting, dine-and-dash, vandalism and various other crime stories seem to be featured prominently in the news cycle.

It is understandable how news media outlets, including the English press, harvest these stories from social media for copy, but in the current climate where the current government is cutting back on 60 day visas, promoting zero tolerance policies on misbehavior, encouraging citizens to report anyone who might be violating visa rules, the nominee crackdown, and making banking access more restrictive, the propaganda value of encouraging the press to highlight negative stories about foreigners in order to validate and justify the government's policies should not be underestimated.

Edited July 26Jul 26 by Gecko123

2 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

Why don't the authorities busy themselves up with something useful.

They could start with regulating entertainment venues, transport companies using CNG, Chinese companies doing construction work.

This obsession Thailand has with every little thing foreigners do when the country is falling apart due to corruption is very tiresome.

2 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

True enough, but there seems to be a trend on Thai social media where people are trying to outdo one another by actively hunting for examples of foreigners causing problems. Two examples come to mind: the guy in Phuket (? ) who posted a video accusing two Russian (?) women of kidnapping his cat, and the tuk tuk driver in Phuket who posted a video of an Israeli (?) guy panhandling with a kid in tow. Plus a pretty steady stream of videos of fights and altercations, shoplifting, dine-and-dash, vandalism and various other crime stories seem to be featured prominently in the news cycle.

It is understandable how news media outlets, including the English press, harvest these stories from social media for copy, but in the current climate where the current government is cutting back on 60 day visas, promoting zero tolerance policies on misbehavior, encouraging citizens to report anyone who might be violating visa rules, the nominee crackdown, and making banking access more restrictive, the propaganda value of encouraging the press to highlight negative stories about foreigners in order to validate and justify the government's policies should not be underestimated.

2 hours ago, Gecko123 said:

True enough, but there seems to be a trend on Thai social media where people are trying to outdo one another by actively hunting for examples of foreigners causing problems. Two examples come to mind: the guy in Phuket (? ) who posted a video accusing two Russian (?) women of kidnapping his cat, and the tuk tuk driver in Phuket who posted a video of an Israeli (?) guy panhandling with a kid in tow. Plus a pretty steady stream of videos of fights and altercations, shoplifting, dine-and-dash, vandalism and various other crime stories seem to be featured prominently in the news cycle.

It is understandable how news media outlets, including the English press, harvest these stories from social media for copy, but in the current climate where the current government is cutting back on 60 day visas, promoting zero tolerance policies on misbehavior, encouraging citizens to report anyone who might be violating visa rules, the nominee crackdown, and making banking access more restrictive, the propaganda value of encouraging the press to highlight negative stories about foreigners in order to validate and justify the government's policies should not be underestimated.

Fair enough. Your opinion, not mine.

14 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I thought permission was required unless it was 'incidental'.....

This only apply to Thais being filmed. When its falang everything seems to be allowed. This is a total shame and loss of face to Thailand. They just dont see it themselves.

On 7/25/2026 at 5:23 AM, Georgealbert said:

According to the post, the youths made rude gestures, including raising their middle fingers, after being asked about the noise.

There was also the offensive "son teen" gesture the woman recorded herself making to the tourists at the 5.07 mark.

7 minutes ago, lamyai3 said:

There was also the offensive "son teen" gesture the woman recorded herself making to the tourists at the 5.07 mark.

TouristDestinations

Because the kids were mocking her footwear.

They were unpleasant little runts.

BTW it's "guan dteen".

Edited July 26Jul 26 by josephbloggs