1 hour ago, RayC said:

France expects its' residents to contribute through tax and other means to the country, something that many Western long-term residents of Thailand seem to object to.

Let's break this down because you sound confused.

Taxation liability is usually based on tax residency.

Tax residency is not the same thing as level of permission to stay residency.

France is a high tax country but it offers a lot for the tax including probably the best health care system in the world. Expat residents (who of course do pay tax, not as a handout) are eligible to join the French health system.

Expats in Thailand who are TAX RESIDENTS have always been subject to taxation whether they like or not. Obviously on income earned in Thailand. More recently expanded to accessible remittances from abroad and there is talk of full global taxation later.

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

The brainwashing really worked on you, huh?

as to what? its brainwashing to tell the truth.? maybe folks who hate on the usa couldnt make it there

On the subject of TH being welcoming, FB just told me, we sold the previous house, 6 yrs ago today. That one & lots around it, paid for most things we have today; house, solar, car. Thailand has been very good to us ❤️

THANK YOU Thailand

Did take 3+ yrs, thanks part to scamdemic

5 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Tourists should expect to be paying customers but Thailand in general offers very little in the way of rights to legal long term residents (if you don't have permanent residence).

If you want to compare to a country that does, look at France.

Okay. Let's look at France.

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2 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Let's break this down because you sound confused.

Taxation liability is usually based on tax residency.

Tax residency is not the same thing as level of permission to stay residency.

France is a high tax country but it offers a lot for the tax including probably the best health care system in the world. Expat residents (who of course do pay tax, not as a handout) are eligible to join the French health system.

Expats in Thailand who are TAX RESIDENTS have always been subject to taxation whether they like or not. Obviously on income earned in Thailand. More recently expanded to accessible remittances from abroad and there is talk of full global taxation later.

I am not at all confused and am well aware of the difference between residency ('permission to stay') and residency for tax purposes ('tax residency'). One test for determining the latter is often - not always - the length of time which an individual spends in a country in any (given) tax year. This is often a necessary, but not always sufficient, condition for determining tax residency. In the case of Thailand this residency requirement is 180 days; in France, it is 183 days.

In this and another thread, you rail against Thailand proposing to tax expat 'tax residents' on their worldwide income. This is exactly what France - and many other European countries - does. If you are tax resident in France you are liable to pay tax on your overseas pensions, overseas dividends and overseas earnings irrespective of whether the monies are repatriated to France or not. The actual amount of tax that the individual pays may be reduced as a result of double taxation agreements which France may have with other countries, but the general principle is that if you are tax resident in France, your worldwide income is st taxation.

Simply paying tax as a ex-pat retiree resident in France no longer automatically entitles such individuals to use the public health system free of charge. Unless you are an EU national or unless reciprocal agreements exist, then the retiree would have enrol with - and pay money into - a mutuelle.

I hope that that this has clarified matters for you.