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22 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

Other than by checking their accounts how on earth could anybody know whether a bar , or any other business is making money or not , I doubt a casual chat with the owner (or his wife) would reveal the truth

It is really not difficult to see which bars make money and which not, by looking at the clientele and what they are spending.

A bar that lose money will not stay in business for 10 years or more with the same owners.

The mistake that the newbies make is that on holidays they were part of the successful bars, and they think they can do the same.

I reckon that the bars that make real money are in the minority, but they are there. One of them for example was U2 (U Too?) bar on second road.

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4 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

It is really not difficult to see which bars make money and which not, by looking at the clientele and what they are spending.

A bar that lose money will not stay in business for 10 years or more with the same owners.

The mistake that the newbies make is that on holidays they were part of the successful bars, and they think they can do the same.

I reckon that the bars that make real money are in the minority, but they are there. One of them for example was U2 (U Too?) bar on second road.

I'll take your word for it , I tend not to stare at other customers , or take any interest in what other people spend.

The bars that become successful , with very few exceptions , are bars that are run by people who have run successful bars before. Contrary to what many people think,a certain skill set and a certain type of personality is required to run a successful bar One cannot just rent premises and stock a fridge with beer and expect success. well actually one can and its all too easy but 99.99% will end up disappointed and broke often within a matter of weeks

6 minutes ago, Bday Prang said:

I'll take your word for it , I tend not to stare at other customers , or take any interest in what other people spend.

There is also no need for that. If you frequent bars, and you have difficulty to find a seat every night, then it's obvious that the bar is successful.

If the bell rings multiple times a night, then you know they are making money.

If you mention the name of a bar, and everyone seems to know the name, is another sign of success.

Another example was (is?) Wonderful bar corner of soi Yamoto. Sailor bar in Soi 8.

56 minutes ago, Chivas said:

Yes I wasn't accusing

I personally cant think of one (in the more modern internet era)

Am certain pre internet there were more than a few though successful

1 hour ago, Olmate said:

Witherspoons,same mgs since pre covid times and opposite that Cosycorner, Oz owners from Sydney and a few mtrs nth of them a couple of small bars next 7/11,constant customers day in day out all family run.Legends Sports Bar Jomtiem another Oz owner, there's more to here than WS and Tits n Beer bars

There is more in Pattaya you are right but you can get tablets/injections for most of them.

3 hours ago, Olmate said:

Witherspoons,same mgs since pre covid times

Not any more and was not an owner or with any equity - if you meant Dean the manager?

@ CallumWK, Yes, the Wonderful Bars, I and II. Female owner was from up around Udon and I believe the police had a stake in the bar. On certain days beer in cofffe cup etc. but seldom closed. Great band at night, the masked singer. I had a great lesson there late one night when there were very few farang customers and the band switched to Issan music. The ladies lit up the bar but the homesickness was very observable. They didn't appear to be all that happy to be there. Wonderful II was my little groups' meeting place when we all got to town from where ever we were coming from. A drinking bar only, no bar fines. I broke the cardinal rule, not only bar fined but married. She is Ex#3...lol. I found a Lao woman in 2011 and she is with me still today, major miracle...lol. Great years back in late 90's early to mid 2000's. Started downhill around 2005/6.

42 minutes ago, topt said:

Not any more and was not an owner or with any equity - if you meant Dean the manager?

Think so, pom, bald,very busy guy if not who was🤔

3 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

There is more in Pattaya you are right but you can get tablets/injections for most of them.

Whats up with those mentioned, not fuk fest enough for your holiday budget®️

9 minutes ago, Olmate said:

Think so, pom, bald,very busy guy if not who was🤔

He was but left 6/8 weeks ago now running a new bar in Pratumnak, soi 5 I believe, as manager.

17 hours ago, PhilipHabib said:

Mods ? is this what the forum has become ?

Trolls bringing Trump into every single thread ?

Trolls is far too positive...... simple minded obsessive fools who can talk of naught else. It is pathetic!

13 hours ago, topt said:

He was but left 6/8 weeks ago now running a new bar in Pratumnak, soi 5 I believe, as manager.

Oh thanks, Soi 5 Pratumnak is becoming worse each week now, too much of the same and no style anymore, bad move for Dean I reckon. ®️

13 hours ago, topt said:

The Shamrock used to be good, regular customers, no ladies to be borrowed, and, of course Terry now passed on to Banjo Heaven. I sometimes think of BS Bob, a real character.

On 8/9/2026 at 1:22 PM, Chivas said:

Name me 1 or 2 ??

Since you asked: Palmer's and Tahitian Queen - there are more still...

18 hours ago, sgtsabai said:

Yes, the Wonderful Bars, I and II. Female owner was from up around Udon and I believe the police had a stake in the bar.

Wonderful 1 was built up from the ground by Andre, a Belgian guy. His wife cheated on him with a policeman and cleaned him out.

18 hours ago, Olmate said:

Whats up with those mentioned, not fuk fest enough for your holiday budget®️

Could you translate your comment into English please?

18 hours ago, Olmate said:

Whats up with those mentioned, not fuk fest enough for your holiday budget®️

Please translate into English

49 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Could you translate your comment into English please?

Please translate into English

You needing tablets or jabs for your holiday beer bar phuk fest, try a bar that makes the owner some kanga👌

On 8/12/2026 at 11:44 AM, Olmate said:

You needing tablets or jabs for your holiday beer bar phuk fest, try a bar that makes the owner some kanga👌

Maybe that is good advice for you but not for me. I gave up drinking many years ago and feel considerably better for it.

3 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

Maybe that is good advice for you but not for me. I gave up drinking many years ago and feel considerably better for it.

Ripper for u, but now on don't post 🚫 on such topics as profit making beer bars!! boom boom💯

On 8/10/2026 at 10:51 AM, lamyai3 said:

Think I remember her from his beachfront restaurant near soi 1, about 20 years or so ago.

He closed that restaurant in May or June of 2006 but he did open a hotel very close to there. I think his two daughters were set to run the hotel. I have no idea if it is still in operation or if they own it anymore.

As I have said in the past, the best investment in Thailand is no investment in Thailand. 🙂

On 8/13/2026 at 5:30 PM, Olmate said:

Ripper for u, but now on don't post 🚫 on such topics as profit making beer bars!! boom boom💯

No offence but I will post on any topics I want to. You are not going to tell me what I can and cannot post on.

On 8/12/2026 at 3:50 AM, CallumWK said:

Wonderful 1 was built up from the ground by Andre, a Belgian guy. His wife cheated on him with a policeman and cleaned him out.

Yes, this is true, but it's still perfectly fine to invest in Thailand, right? 😂 😂

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