44 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:

No excuse whasoever? What if the baby is already dead and by carrying it to full term the mother will die?

You do talk some nonsense.

Yes. There always have to be exceptions and they need to be written into the law. Otherwise not permissible past the first trimester.

Edited August 13Aug 13 by spidermike007

1 minute ago, spidermike007 said:

Yes. There always have to be exceptions and they need to be written into the law. Otherwise not permissible past the first trimester.

The point rather is that there were already such exceptions in place before governor Maura Healey signed the laws that removed all gestational limitations. They already permitted abortion post gestational limits in exceptional circumstances like risk to the mother's life.

Prior to the passage of the 2026 legislation, the legal definitions governing abortions after 24 weeks in Massachusetts were strictly constrained to a "four-pronged framework." Under Section 12M of the Massachusetts General Laws (originally codified via the 2020 ROE Act), a physician could only perform a post-24-week abortion if they could formally document that the patient's circumstances fit into one of these narrow categories:

• To preserve the life of the patient: The pregnancy posed an active, severe threat of maternal mortality.

• To preserve the physical health of the patient: The pregnancy threatened major, irreversible bodily damage or severe physical impairment to the mother.

• To preserve the mental health of the patient: The pregnancy posed an acute and severe psychological or emotional risk to the patient.

• Lethal fetal anomaly or "grave fetal diagnosis": The fetus possessed a medical condition or defect that made survival outside the uterus impossible or highly unlikely.

  What the activists did was use obscure, incredibly rare scenarios, such as if the fetus had a stroke and would be impaired but would not die, as an excuse to remove ALL limitations, thus effectively giving total freedom to abort at any time. It is totally shameful and reprehensible what has happened.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

You talk nonsense, this never happens. We all know that abortions are done for spurious, often economic reasons, relationship reasons, almost NEVER because the "baby is already dead".

Total bs. This change in the law is designed to make abortion easier for ideological reasons. Not to address situations where a "baby is already dead" which is almost never the reason for an abortion.

Typical leftist obfuscation of the truth.

You are providing sound evidence of why women’s health decisions need to be a private matter between women and their doctors and why raving ideological zealots need to be kept well away from women’s healthcare and women’s rights.

Keep it up, you’re winning the argument against yourself.

46 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

The point rather is that there were already such exceptions in place before governor Maura Healey signed the laws that removed all gestational limitations. They already permitted abortion post gestational limits in exceptional circumstances like risk to the mother's life.

Prior to the passage of the 2026 legislation, the legal definitions governing abortions after 24 weeks in Massachusetts were strictly constrained to a "four-pronged framework." Under Section 12M of the Massachusetts General Laws (originally codified via the 2020 ROE Act), a physician could only perform a post-24-week abortion if they could formally document that the patient's circumstances fit into one of these narrow categories:

• To preserve the life of the patient: The pregnancy posed an active, severe threat of maternal mortality.

• To preserve the physical health of the patient: The pregnancy threatened major, irreversible bodily damage or severe physical impairment to the mother.

• To preserve the mental health of the patient: The pregnancy posed an acute and severe psychological or emotional risk to the patient.

• Lethal fetal anomaly or "grave fetal diagnosis": The fetus possessed a medical condition or defect that made survival outside the uterus impossible or highly unlikely.

  What the activists did was use obscure, incredibly rare scenarios, such as if the fetus had a stroke and would be impaired but would not die, as an excuse to remove ALL limitations, thus effectively giving total freedom to abort at any time. It is totally shameful and reprehensible what has happened.

Not your body.

Not your choice.

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

You are providing sound evidence of why women’s health decisions need to be a private matter between women and their doctors and why raving ideological zealots need to be kept well away from women’s healthcare and women’s rights.

Keep it up, you’re winning the argument against yourself.

Lol, that's exactly what happened in Boston, raging zealots in the shape of pro-abortion feminists have hijacked the legislature to make abortion easier.

It's a woman's right to kill now? Not in my moral universe.

Trump is far too lenient on this point. He should have introduced national gestational limits at the federal level. But he doesn't care about this, clearly.

Edited August 13Aug 13 by Cameroni

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

No I’m not joking, Imm calling out your utter nonsense.

No part of this new law enables child killers or babies.

You’ve lost touch with reality.

Gestational Limits and Medical Decisions

• Any Stage: There is no longer a strict 24-week gestational ban; procedures later in pregnancy are permitted based on the joint decision of the patient and their doctor. [1, 2]

• Care Settings: Late-term care is no longer restricted strictly to hospitals and can be performed in other qualified health care centers. [1, 2]

• Oversight: Third-party medical review processes cannot override decisions made by a patient and their treating physician.

It's pretty shocking, I agree.

12 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

Gestational Limits and Medical Decisions

• Any Stage: There is no longer a strict 24-week gestational ban; procedures later in pregnancy are permitted based on the joint decision of the patient and their doctor. [1, 2]

• Care Settings: Late-term care is no longer restricted strictly to hospitals and can be performed in other qualified health care centers. [1, 2]

• Oversight: Third-party medical review processes cannot override decisions made by a patient and their treating physician.

It's pretty shocking, I agree.

Point out the bit that refers to babies.

4 hours ago, novacova said:

So you want to abort nations founded in the last 250 years, post August 13, 1776…

Afghanistan

Albania

Algeria

Angola

Antigua and Barbuda

Argentina

Armenia

Australia

Austria

Azerbaijan

Bahamas

Bahrain

Bangladesh

Barbados

Belarus

Belgium

Belize

Benin

Bhutan

Bolivia

Bosnia and Herzegovina

Botswana

Brazil

Brunei

Bulgaria

Burkina Faso

Burundi

Cabo Verde

Cambodia

Cameroon

Canada

Central African Republic

Chad

Chile

Colombia

Comoros

Congo

Costa Rica

Croatia

Cuba

Cyprus

Czechia

Democratic Republic of the Congo

Djibouti

Dominica

Dominican Republic

Ecuador

Egypt

El Salvador

Equatorial Guinea

Eritrea

Estonia

Eswatini

Ethiopia

Fiji

Finland

Gabon

Gambia

Georgia

Germany

Ghana

Greece

Grenada

Guatemala

Guinea

Guinea-Bissau

Guyana

Haiti

Honduras

Hungary

Iceland

India

Indonesia

Iraq

Ireland

Israel

Italy

Ivory Coast

Jamaica

Jordan

Kazakhstan

Kenya

Kiribati

Kosovo

Kuwait

Kyrgyzstan

Laos

Latvia

Lebanon

Lesotho

Liberia

Libya

Lithuania

Luxembourg

Madagascar

Malawi

Malaysia

Maldives

Mali

Malta

Marshall Islands

Mauritania

Mauritius

Mexico

Micronesia

Moldova

Mongolia

Montenegro

Morocco

Mozambique

Myanmar

Namibia

Nauru

Nepal

New Zealand

Nicaragua

Niger

Nigeria

North Korea

North Macedonia

Norway

Oman

Pakistan

Palau

Panama

Papua New Guinea

Paraguay

Peru

Philippines

Poland

Portugal

Qatar

Romania

Russia

Rwanda

Saint Kitts and Nevis

Saint Lucia

Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

Samoa

Sao Tome and Principe

Saudi Arabia

Senegal

Serbia

Seychelles

Sierra Leone

Singapore

Slovakia

Slovenia

Solomon Islands

Somalia

South Africa

South Korea

South Sudan

Spain

Sri Lanka

Sudan

Suriname

Sweden

Switzerland

Syria

Tajikistan

Tanzania

Thailand

Timor-Leste

Togo

Tonga

Trinidad and Tobago

Tunisia

Turkey

Turkmenistan

Tuvalu

Uganda

Ukraine

United Arab Emirates

Uruguay

Uzbekistan

Vanuatu

Vatican City

Venezuela

Vietnam

Yemen

Zambia

Zimbabwe

There is something seriously wrong with you.

International left systemic progressive thought process is a danger to humanity

Read the real facts without bias from the OP.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/massachusetts-abortion-until-birth/

Edited August 13Aug 13 by PeterA
correction

2 hours ago, Cameroni said:

The point rather is that there were already such exceptions in place before governor Maura Healey signed the laws that removed all gestational limitations. They already permitted abortion post gestational limits in exceptional circumstances like risk to the mother's life.

Prior to the passage of the 2026 legislation, the legal definitions governing abortions after 24 weeks in Massachusetts were strictly constrained to a "four-pronged framework." Under Section 12M of the Massachusetts General Laws (originally codified via the 2020 ROE Act), a physician could only perform a post-24-week abortion if they could formally document that the patient's circumstances fit into one of these narrow categories:

• To preserve the life of the patient: The pregnancy posed an active, severe threat of maternal mortality.

• To preserve the physical health of the patient: The pregnancy threatened major, irreversible bodily damage or severe physical impairment to the mother.

• To preserve the mental health of the patient: The pregnancy posed an acute and severe psychological or emotional risk to the patient.

• Lethal fetal anomaly or "grave fetal diagnosis": The fetus possessed a medical condition or defect that made survival outside the uterus impossible or highly unlikely.

  What the activists did was use obscure, incredibly rare scenarios, such as if the fetus had a stroke and would be impaired but would not die, as an excuse to remove ALL limitations, thus effectively giving total freedom to abort at any time. It is totally shameful and reprehensible what has happened.

This is no doubt a huge disaster on the part of a liberal Democrat. Just for the sake of objectivity could you point out a couple of huge disasters on the part of the president and the GOP?

9 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

This is no doubt a huge disaster on the part of a liberal Democrat. Just for the sake of objectivity could you point out a couple of huge disasters on the part of the president and the GOP?

This Boston abortion free for all is a huge disaster. Trump should have put in federal gestational limits but he doesn't care about this issue. It's unbelievable Boston gets this done while Trump is in power.

5 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

This Boston abortion free for all is a huge disaster

And that’s a huge misrepresentation of reality.

At full term, a coat hanger would no longer be of use; go to the hardware store and buy a pickaxe!

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Not your body.

Not your choice.

Does this apply to vccianations?

Edited August 13Aug 13 by Mr Awesome

1 hour ago, riclag said:

International left systemic progressive thought process is a danger to humanity

No more than billionaires with tax breaks that hollowv out the middle class.

1 minute ago, Lacessit said:

No more than billionaires with tax breaks that hollowv out the middle class.

How did a billionaire tax cut undermine the middle class? Please explain.

5 hours ago, Palatus said:

It's disgraceful to politicize this as you do and do several others on this thread. When the text says Massachusetts and 9 other states allows abortion "up to birth," it simply means the state government has removed strict time cutoffs. Instead of a one-size-fits-all legal deadline of 24 weeks, the state now relies on doctors to use their medical expertise to handle severe, late-stage pregnancy complications on a case-by-case basis.

The way right wingers political nuts describe this can mistakenly make it sound like a person can simply choose to have an abortion at 39 weeks just because they changed their mind, as its votes they clamber for not the health of mother and child. In reality, abortions late in pregnancy are incredibly rare. They almost exclusively happen because something has gone terribly wrong medically. The remaining states of the US could take a lead from this and get in line with the modern world where up to birth abortions in emergencies are standard practice.

It's somewhat ironic that Islamic law has permitted abortions up to 120 days under a number of defined circumstances for centuries, while some religious nutter US states have yet to catch up.

8 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:

So a doctors note makes it OK. That's what this is. Just like medical professionals who mutilate children.

No that is not what happens. A late term abortion is a high risk and serious medical intervention. It occurs because there is a serious medical complication. Almost always, the mother has been invested in bringing her child to term and the medical care is focused on ensuring that outcome. Doctors notes are not sufficient, any more than they are to perform other types of invasive surgery. There has to be a comprehensive pre-procedure examination and review. If done in a hospital, the procedure typically goes before a review panel, just like any other high risk procedure. The patient often has to stay in the hospital after the procedure because of the associated risks.

A late term abortion is one that occurs at 6 months or later. In 2024 there were only 99 of the procedures in the state. It is a difficult procedure and one that medical providers try to avoid. At 6 months, the focus is one of trying to acheive a healthy birth, and if an drastic intervention is required, it will be as a last resort type of treatment. If the intent to have an abortion for non medical reasons was there, the procedure would have been done much earlier. It is very unlikely that a woman wants to carry around a fetus and then abort it in late term.

6 minutes ago, Mr Awesome said:

How did a billionaire tax cut undermine the middle class? Please explain.

During his first Presidency, Trump paid less tax than any secretary or janitor in any of his properties.

I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.

6 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

No that is not what happens. A late term abortion is a high risk and serious medical intervention. It occurs because there is a serious medical complication. Almost always, the mother has been invested in bringing her child to term and the medical care is focused on ensuring that outcome. Doctors notes are not sufficient, any more than they are to perform other types of invasive surgery. There has to be a comprehensive pre-procedure examination and review. If done in a hospital, the procedure typically goes before a review panel, just like any other high risk procedure. The patient often has to stay in the hospital after the procedure because of the associated risks.

A late term abortion is one that occurs at 6 months or later. In 2024 there were only 99 of the procedures in the state. It is a difficult procedure and one that medical providers try to avoid. At 6 months, the focus is one of trying to acheive a healthy birth, and if an drastic intervention is required, it will be as a last resort type of treatment. If the intent to have an abortion for non medical reasons was there, the procedure would have been done much earlier. It is very unlikely that a woman wants to carry around a fetus and then abort it in late term.

Medical professionals do not share this view:

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6403305292112

The real reasons women have abortions, in their own words:

"Christina Applegate in her 2026 memoir You With the Sad Eyes: A Memoir, wrote about discovering she was pregnant while dating her abusive ex, whom she did not name, in April 1991. She quoted passages from her diary from that time, writing that “a brutal turn” in their relationship forced her to realize that she would pursue an abortion as things had gotten so bad between them"...So she decided to have an abortion because she did not want to have the relationship with the father.

Another star, Danielle Brooks, admits she had an abortion because she wanted to finalize an acne treatment course. Danielle Brooks, became pregnant while on Accutane to treat acne she was experiencing during her time in The Color Purple on Broadway.

“If you know anything about Accutane, when you’re on Accutane, you’re not supposed to get pregnant. It’s a requirement. You actually have to sign something saying that you will have an abortion if you get pregnant,” she said on an episode of the Pregnant Pause podcast. “I broke down because I realized I wanted to be a mom. And that an option was no longer on the table in this moment ... it was really hard, very, very difficult to actually have an abortion." So her acne treatment was more important than her baby.

Sally Field admitted she had an abortion because of financial reasons:

“I had no choices in my life, I didn’t have a lot of family support or finances. I graduated high school but no one ever said, ‘How about college?’ Nothing. I didn’t know what I was gonna be,” she continued. “And then I found out I was pregnant.”

Fellow feminist Kelly Bishop admits she just had an abortion for the simple fact that she didn't want to have children.

"Bishop says she never planned to have children, so when she became pregnant in her 30s, she was grateful for the recent Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 that protected a right to privacy, including whether to continue a pregnancy. “The fact that [abortion] was available and legal, it was just a relief,” she said."

Kerry Washington admits she just had an abortion because she became pregnant from a one-night stand, and had not planned a pregnancy.

"The Scandal actress revealed she had a romantic encounter that resulted in an unplanned pregnancy, shortly after the success of Save the Last Dance in 2001. To protect her privacy, Washington gave doctors a fake name."

Britney Spears claims she aborted Justin Timberlake's baby because he did not want to be a father.

"In her memoir The Woman in Me, Britney Spears recalls becoming pregnant with Justin Timberlake’s baby — and though initially conflicted, making the decision with Timberlake to end the pregnancy.

“Justin definitely wasn’t happy about the pregnancy. He said we weren’t ready to have a baby in our lives, that we were way too young,” she writes in the book."

Paris Hilton admitted she had an abortion because she was simply "not ready".

While the Paris in Love star was discussing the importance of using her platform to support reproductive rights, Hilton opened up about her decision to terminate a pregnancy that she “was not ready for” in her early 20s.

https://people.com/celebrity-abortion-stories-12027981

This article goes on and on to document the real reasons women have abortions. In the overwhelming majority cases the reasons are selfish, vanity, financial or relationship related, nothing to do with medical emergencies which is one big red herring activists use. The reality is very different.

Edited August 13Aug 13 by Cameroni

21 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

During his first Presidency, Trump paid less tax than any secretary or janitor in any of his properties.

I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.

If you tried to explain the correlation between tax cuts and the middle class, you would face plant. The fact that you mentioned Trump shows that you don't fully understand the topic. In fact, you have no idea how much Trump has paid in taxes over his lifetime.

3 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Then it's obviously justified, but those instances are extremely rare.

The international left’s outrage would be far better spent protecting animals. At least animal offspring receive support from humanitarian groups and animal cruelty laws

5 minutes ago, Mr Awesome said:

If you tried to explain the correlation between tax cuts and the middle class, you would face plant. The fact that you mentioned Trump shows that you don't fully understand the topic. In fact, you have no idea how much Trump has paid in taxes over his lifetime.

The insanity of abortion & The international left’s outrage,We live in a world where animal rights groups fight tooth and nail for the unborn young of wildlife, while lawmakers in Massachusetts push to remove the final protections for viable human infants. The priorities couldn't be more twisted.

23 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

The real reasons women have abortions, in their own words:

"Christina Applegate in her 2026 memoir You With the Sad Eyes: A Memoir, wrote about discovering she was pregnant while dating her abusive ex, whom she did not name, in April 1991. She quoted passages from her diary from that time, writing that “a brutal turn” in their relationship forced her to realize that she would pursue an abortion as things had gotten so bad between them"...So she decided to have an abortion because she did not want to have the relationship with the father.

Another star, Danielle Brooks, admits she had an abortion because she wanted to finalize an acne treatment course. Danielle Brooks, became pregnant while on Accutane to treat acne she was experiencing during her time in The Color Purple on Broadway.

“If you know anything about Accutane, when you’re on Accutane, you’re not supposed to get pregnant. It’s a requirement. You actually have to sign something saying that you will have an abortion if you get pregnant,” she said on an episode of the Pregnant Pause podcast. “I broke down because I realized I wanted to be a mom. And that an option was no longer on the table in this moment ... it was really hard, very, very difficult to actually have an abortion." So her acne treatment was more important than her baby.

Sally Field admitted she had an abortion because of financial reasons:

“I had no choices in my life, I didn’t have a lot of family support or finances. I graduated high school but no one ever said, ‘How about college?’ Nothing. I didn’t know what I was gonna be,” she continued. “And then I found out I was pregnant.”

Fellow feminist Kelly Bishop admits she just had an abortion for the simple fact that she didn't want to have children.

"Bishop says she never planned to have children, so when she became pregnant in her 30s, she was grateful for the recent Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 that protected a right to privacy, including whether to continue a pregnancy. “The fact that [abortion] was available and legal, it was just a relief,” she said."

Kerry Washington admits she just had an abortion because she became pregnant from a one-night stand, and had not planned a pregnancy.

"The Scandal actress revealed she had a romantic encounter that resulted in an unplanned pregnancy, shortly after the success of Save the Last Dance in 2001. To protect her privacy, Washington gave doctors a fake name."

Britney Spears claims she aborted Justin Timberlake's baby because he did not want to be a father.

"In her memoir The Woman in Me, Britney Spears recalls becoming pregnant with Justin Timberlake’s baby — and though initially conflicted, making the decision with Timberlake to end the pregnancy.

“Justin definitely wasn’t happy about the pregnancy. He said we weren’t ready to have a baby in our lives, that we were way too young,” she writes in the book."

Paris Hilton admitted she had an abortion because she was simply "not ready".

While the Paris in Love star was discussing the importance of using her platform to support reproductive rights, Hilton opened up about her decision to terminate a pregnancy that she “was not ready for” in her early 20s.

https://people.com/celebrity-abortion-stories-12027981

This article goes on and on to document the real reasons women have abortions. In the overwhelming majority cases the reasons are selfish, vanity, financial or relationship related, nothing to do with medical emergencies which is one big red herring activists use. The reality is very different.

None of which has anything to do with the topic whatsoever. Just another one of your usual rants against women.

Edited August 13Aug 13 by josephbloggs

1 hour ago, Lacessit said:

During his first Presidency, Trump paid less tax than any secretary or janitor in any of his properties.

I can explain it to you. I can't understand it for you.

Every rich person in the USA enjoys the same tax code.

1 hour ago, Mr Awesome said:

Does this apply to vccianations?

Yes.

Nobody forced you to have any vaccinations.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

The real reasons women have abortions, in their own words:

"Christina Applegate in her 2026 memoir You With the Sad Eyes: A Memoir, wrote about discovering she was pregnant while dating her abusive ex, whom she did not name, in April 1991. She quoted passages from her diary from that time, writing that “a brutal turn” in their relationship forced her to realize that she would pursue an abortion as things had gotten so bad between them"...So she decided to have an abortion because she did not want to have the relationship with the father.

Another star, Danielle Brooks, admits she had an abortion because she wanted to finalize an acne treatment course. Danielle Brooks, became pregnant while on Accutane to treat acne she was experiencing during her time in The Color Purple on Broadway.

“If you know anything about Accutane, when you’re on Accutane, you’re not supposed to get pregnant. It’s a requirement. You actually have to sign something saying that you will have an abortion if you get pregnant,” she said on an episode of the Pregnant Pause podcast. “I broke down because I realized I wanted to be a mom. And that an option was no longer on the table in this moment ... it was really hard, very, very difficult to actually have an abortion." So her acne treatment was more important than her baby.

Sally Field admitted she had an abortion because of financial reasons:

“I had no choices in my life, I didn’t have a lot of family support or finances. I graduated high school but no one ever said, ‘How about college?’ Nothing. I didn’t know what I was gonna be,” she continued. “And then I found out I was pregnant.”

Fellow feminist Kelly Bishop admits she just had an abortion for the simple fact that she didn't want to have children.

"Bishop says she never planned to have children, so when she became pregnant in her 30s, she was grateful for the recent Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 that protected a right to privacy, including whether to continue a pregnancy. “The fact that [abortion] was available and legal, it was just a relief,” she said."

Kerry Washington admits she just had an abortion because she became pregnant from a one-night stand, and had not planned a pregnancy.

"The Scandal actress revealed she had a romantic encounter that resulted in an unplanned pregnancy, shortly after the success of Save the Last Dance in 2001. To protect her privacy, Washington gave doctors a fake name."

Britney Spears claims she aborted Justin Timberlake's baby because he did not want to be a father.

"In her memoir The Woman in Me, Britney Spears recalls becoming pregnant with Justin Timberlake’s baby — and though initially conflicted, making the decision with Timberlake to end the pregnancy.

“Justin definitely wasn’t happy about the pregnancy. He said we weren’t ready to have a baby in our lives, that we were way too young,” she writes in the book."

Paris Hilton admitted she had an abortion because she was simply "not ready".

While the Paris in Love star was discussing the importance of using her platform to support reproductive rights, Hilton opened up about her decision to terminate a pregnancy that she “was not ready for” in her early 20s.

https://people.com/celebrity-abortion-stories-12027981

This article goes on and on to document the real reasons women have abortions. In the overwhelming majority cases the reasons are selfish, vanity, financial or relationship related, nothing to do with medical emergencies which is one big red herring activists use. The reality is very different.

You don’t think you might be cherry picking?

22 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You don’t think you might be cherry picking?

If you read the article, you would have seen that I go sequentially, I don't skip, i don't cherry pick. These are the real reasons women have given for abortion. Acne treatment, did not want the relationship with the father, financial reasons, simply did not want children, it was just a one-night stand and pregnancy was not intended.

Read the article.

https://people.com/celebrity-abortion-stories-12027981

These are the reasons women have abortions. You'll be hard pressed to find any "medical emergency" of the tricky kind Patong describes. You'll easily find vanity, financial reasons, one night stands, undesired relationship.

Facts are facts.

4 hours ago, Cameroni said:

Medical professionals do not share this view:

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6403305292112

The person you referenced is one person and it is her personal opinion. She neither represents her professional body, nor the majority of specialists. She is not obliged to perform the procedure and is not being asked to do so. Her practice does does not specialize in high risk patients.

The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists (ACOG) affirms that reproductive health decisions should be made by patients and their trusted medical providers, free from political interference. It is joined by The Society for Maternal-Fetal Medicine which supports the right of all individuals to access the full spectrum of reproductive health services, including abortion care. Reproductive health decisions are best made by each individual with guidance and support from their healthcare providers. The Society opposes legislation and policies that limit access to abortion care or criminalize abortion care and self-managed abortion. In addition, the Society opposes policies that compromise the patient-healthcare provider relationship by limiting a healthcare provider’s ability to counsel patients and provide evidence-based, medically appropriate treatment. Both professional groups call for the repeal of gestational age bans, waiting periods, criminalization of self-managed care, and other barriers to full reproductive services

https://www.ajog.org/article/S0002-9378%2824%2900511-8/fulltext

13 hours ago, Purdey said:

The law specifically says that it means patients experiencing serious pregnancy complications can receive medically appropriate care.

It means a doctor has to decide if the situation is seriously going to affect the mother's life.

What's False

… Pregnancy terminations after that point already were legal in the state in four cases: to preserve the life of the gestating person; to preserve the gestating person's physical or mental health; in case of defect or diagnosis that would result in the death of the fetus; and in the case of a "grave fetal diagnosis that indicates that the fetus is incompatible with sustained life outside of the uterus without extraordinary medical interventions."