14 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Over-hyped right wing noise. The decision does not allow third trimester elective abortions.

It has lead to one person in this thread threatening a sitting politician.

This is very puzzling.

At the 9th month, the fetus is fully formed, and also viable, one would think.

Therefore, why not just perform a cesarean?

Obviously, we are talking here about a fetus which is not viable, for whatever reason.

So, no big deal.

Or, is this just one more of those intentionally misleading headlines we often see around here?

Nobody seems interested in the facts.

Edited August 13Aug 13 by GammaGlobulin

4 hours ago, Cameroni said:

If you read the article, you would have seen that I go sequentially, I don't skip, i don't cherry pick. These are the real reasons women have given for abortion. Acne treatment, did not want the relationship with the father, financial reasons, simply did not want children, it was just a one-night stand and pregnancy was not intended.

Read the article.

https://people.com/celebrity-abortion-stories-12027981

These are the reasons women have abortions. You'll be hard pressed to find any "medical emergency" of the tricky kind Patong describes. You'll easily find vanity, financial reasons, one night stands, undesired relationship.

Facts are facts.

For women paying for an abortion out of pocket (which covers the reason left you aghast after reading an article about the blond from Married with Children), the most common sourcing of funding for such procedures were men like you.

https://www.whijournal.com/action/downloadMultiplePdfsCompressedFile?sig=645ac512-89ef-4a6e-90de-a638d3cd5429&anti-forgery-token=ae950180-ad78-4980-ba31-2202c865fcc1

You persist in this women hating, but men like you are also the cause, because its your seed and your money.

7 hours ago, Cameroni said:

If you read the article, you would have seen that I go sequentially, I don't skip, i don't cherry pick. These are the real reasons women have given for abortion. Acne treatment, did not want the relationship with the father, financial reasons, simply did not want children, it was just a one-night stand and pregnancy was not intended.

Read the article.

https://people.com/celebrity-abortion-stories-12027981

These are the reasons women have abortions. You'll be hard pressed to find any "medical emergency" of the tricky kind Patong describes. You'll easily find vanity, financial reasons, one night stands, undesired relationship.

Facts are facts.

The cases in the article itself are cherry picked.

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14 hours ago, Cameroni said:

This Boston abortion free for all is a huge disaster. Trump should have put in federal gestational limits but he doesn't care about this issue. It's unbelievable Boston gets this done while Trump is in power.

You completely avoided my inquiry, which unfortunately is so typical for MAGA supporters these days. Where has the objectivity gone?

4 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The cases in the article itself are cherry picked.

No, they're not, they're told in perfect sequence, as listed, reporting actual real life cases of abortion in the words of the women themselves.

They show the real reasons women have abortion. Financial issues, relationship issues, vanity, one night stands etc.

No medical emergencies.

https://people.com/celebrity-abortion-stories-12027981

23 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

No, they're not, they're told in perfect sequence, as listed, reporting actual real life cases of abortion in the words of the women themselves.

They show the real reasons women have abortion. Financial issues, relationship issues, vanity, one night stands etc.

No medical emergencies.

https://people.com/celebrity-abortion-stories-12027981

I'd say it's 100% true. Finances combined with relationship issues would be No 1 if I had a guess. Just because the guy wants a bang without baggage.

2 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I'd say it's 100% true. Finances combined with relationship issues would be No 1 if I had a guess. Just because the guy wants a bang without baggage.

Of course it is. Most women abort for reasons that have nothing to do with medical emergencies. That's just a narrative pushed by activists and supporters of abortion, because nobody would say no to allow abortions for medical reasons.

However, the sad reality is that the vast majority of abortions are done for relationship reasons, financial reasons, it was a one night stand, the woman just didn't want a child or the father of course. One woman in this list also admits she had an abortion because of her acne treatment. You can't make it up.

https://people.com/celebrity-abortion-stories-12027981

Edited August 14Aug 14 by Cameroni

1 minute ago, Cameroni said:

Of course it is. Most women abort for reasons that having nothing to do with medical emergencies. That's just a narrative pushed by activists and supporters of abortion, because nobody would say no to allow abortions for medical reasons.

However, the sad reality is that the vast majority of abortions are done for relationship reasons, financial reasons, it was a one night stand, the woman just didn't want a child or the father of course. One woman in this list also admits she had an abortion because of her acne treatment. You can't make it up.

https://people.com/celebrity-abortion-stories-12027981

I would never have a relationship with a woman I knew had an abortion (or empowered an abortion) in the past. One and done maybe, that's all they are good for!

Edited August 14Aug 14 by BritManToo

3 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I would never have a relationship with a woman I knew had an abortion (or empowered an abortion) in the past. One and done maybe, that's all they are good for!

It certainly doesn't look good on a resume, which is why most women keep quiet about it.

Having said that of the 5 long term relationships I had 2 of the women had abortions before, and one of them was the most loyal, hard working and best quality woman overall. It need not necessarily affect her suitability as a wife. Though obviously nobody would want it.

8 minutes ago, EVENKEEL said:

I'd say it's 100% true. Finances combined with relationship issues would be No 1 if I had a guess. Just because the guy wants a bang without baggage.

My only interaction with such a case was in Thaland.

My best pal, felt a bit ill at xmas, was dead by the end of Jan (stomach cancer age 49).

The last time I saw him in hospital he admitted his gf was pregnant, and his NZ mom had coerced her into having an abortion (empowered by a lady that posted regularly on this forum, also dead now).

They hawked her around Thailand until they found a clinic that would abort a 5 month fetus.

I would have happily taken and fully financed the baby, but no they had to have an illegal abortion. The aborted baby boy would have been 12 this year.

Edited August 14Aug 14 by BritManToo

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

You completely avoided my inquiry, which unfortunately is so typical for MAGA supporters these days. Where has the objectivity gone?

It's not that, obviously Trump has made many mistakes, and happy to discuss those on the many Trump threads with you, but here is not the venue for this.

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

You can't make it up.

But you can? That doesn't seem balanced or objective.

15 hours ago, Mr Awesome said:

If you tried to explain the correlation between tax cuts and the middle class, you would face plant. The fact that you mentioned Trump shows that you don't fully understand the topic. In fact, you have no idea how much Trump has paid in taxes over his lifetime.

That might just be because Trump is the only US president to refuse to release his tax records.

32 minutes ago, WorriedNoodle said:

But you can? That doesn't seem balanced or objective.

It's not made up. Danielle Brooks is on record for admitting that she had an abortion because of her acne treatment. Whether you think that's balanced or objective is neither here nor there, that's a fact.

"If you know anything about Accutane, when you’re on Accutane, you’re not supposed to get pregnant. It’s a requirement."

https://people.com/celebrity-abortion-stories-12027981

If you read this long list of women who say why they had abortions, almost all are for relationship reasons, financial reasons, not wanting children, too young, one-night stand, etc, not one medical emergency among them.

Edited August 14Aug 14 by Cameroni

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

I would have happily taken and fully financed the baby, but no they had to have an illegal abortion. The aborted baby boy would have been 12 this year.

Valid point.

We should be allowed to bid for these kids so we can put them to work rather than just throwing them on the scrapheap.

Basically, in layman's terms, this is how they do it,framed in non medical rhetoric.

3 hours ago, riclag said:

Basically, in layman's terms, this is how they do it,framed in non medical rhetoric.

Seems like every woman furious about abortion is either post menopausal (or pre-menopausal but who no sane (or in many cases insane) man would impregnate).
It’s almost like they just want younger/impregnable women to kill their babies.
I don’t think this has anything to do with “women’s rights.”
I think it’s a very deep and dark homicidal envy.

Some argue it’s a perpetuation of the (feminist) abuse these women suffered. they gave up their chances for a family and they need that cycle to continue in order to validate what they did. it’s like moms with trans kids. they can’t ever admit that they made a mistake because then they would have to mourn what they lost.

Anyway, as per the video posted previously, if the price is right, I'd buy them (the slave kids - not the sterile / un <deleted> able women).

3 hours ago, Tourist2 said:

Valid point.

We should be allowed to bid for these kids so we can put them to work rather than just throwing them on the scrapheap.

Anyone else here think we need to bring back slavery to save these poor babies from being murdered?

2 minutes ago, Tourist2 said:

Anyone else here think we need to bring back slavery to save these poor babies from being murdered?

Coming to a theater soon. Would make a crazy plot for a movie.

So these Democrat loonies can’t even define what a woman is… but they have zero problem deciding which babies get to die. Biology is suddenly very clear when it’s time to end a pregnancy. The confusion only appears when the question is “what is a woman?” Funny how that works. Or caan we say that it is selective blindness with a body count?

They just need a doctor willing to mumble the magic words “professional medical judgment.” And let’s be real as Planned Parenthood has an entire stable of them ready to sign off while treating the remains as premium inventory (the more developed the baby the better the parts… and the higher the price).

For those who don't remember:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjxwVuozMnU

2 hours ago, FinChin67 said:

So these Democrat loonies can’t even define what a woman is… but they have zero problem deciding which babies get to die. Biology is suddenly very clear when it’s time to end a pregnancy. The confusion only appears when the question is “what is a woman?” Funny how that works. Or caan we say that it is selective blindness with a body count?

They just need a doctor willing to mumble the magic words “professional medical judgment.” And let’s be real as Planned Parenthood has an entire stable of them ready to sign off while treating the remains as premium inventory (the more developed the baby the better the parts… and the higher the price).

For those who don't remember:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjxwVuozMnU

All in the name of progressivism .! The irony below ,its to preserve human condition.

"Progressivism is a left-leaning political philosophy that seeks to make progress in the human condition through reforms aimed at maximising positive liberty".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism

28 minutes ago, riclag said:

All in the name of progressivism .! The irony below ,its to preserve human condition.

"Progressivism is a left-leaning political philosophy that seeks to make progress in the human condition through reforms aimed at maximising positive liberty".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism

So you object to positive liberty.

Anyone who is anti abortion is free to adopt and support said babies.

Same for pro immigration advocates they are free to offer accomodation and support for an immigrant.

Neither will.

On 8/14/2026 at 7:34 AM, Tourist2 said:

Valid point.

We should be allowed to bid for these kids so we can put them to work rather than just throwing them on the scrapheap.

-It belongs to me.

-It’s not a human.

-I can do with it what I want with it.

Abortion and slavery share the same property rights argument.

#EradicateUnemployment&Abortion-MakeSLaveryGreatAgain

1 hour ago, Tourist2 said:

-It belongs to me.

-It’s not a human.

-I can do with it what I want with it.

Abortion and slavery share the same property rights argument.

#EradicateUnemployment&Abortion-MakeSLaveryGreatAgain

I thought buying them was a good idea, if only I needed my cotton picking!

1 hour ago, Tourist2 said:

-It belongs to me.

-It’s not a human.

-I can do with it what I want with it.

Abortion and slavery share the same property rights argument.

#EradicateUnemployment&Abortion-MakeSLaveryGreatAgain

No women are you human, their bodies do not belong to you.

On 8/13/2026 at 8:54 PM, Cameroni said:

Of course it is. Most women abort for reasons that have nothing to do with medical emergencies. That's just a narrative pushed by activists and supporters of abortion, because nobody would say no to allow abortions for medical reasons.

However, the sad reality is that the vast majority of abortions are done for relationship reasons, financial reasons, it was a one night stand, the woman just didn't want a child or the father of course. One woman in this list also admits she had an abortion because of her acne treatment. You can't make it up.

https://people.com/celebrity-abortion-stories-12027981

It should be a woman's right and as long as it's done during the first trimester I don't think there should be any debate about whether or not abortion should be allowed. The last thing this world needs is another child that's not wanted by his mother or his parents.

abortion of a viable fetus is murder