Ip Camera/fix Ip.

[thai4u]

To get the connection and address for the IP camera (for security reasons and tracking) I understand I need to apply for a fix ip address from my internet provider this will cost me a 500 baht extra every month.

Is there any other choice/option to avoid this payment?

thank you

[stumonster]

not totally sure what you are trying to do.

you have a camera that has its own network connection which is connected to a router which is connected to the internet ?

it sounds like you need a dynamic IP address resolver - dydns.org .

let us know exactly what you are trying to do and we can help you set it up for minimal cost and also advise you on the security issues involved - you don't want everyone to be able to look through your camera.

[thai4u]

ok thank you . here is the model I want to buy.

I want to be able to see my business when I'm in holidays or out of the country..from the internet..(from any internet shop in the world of course..the idea of having an adress which I will log in from any web browser and of course limit it with password ..).

http://www.shop4thai.com/en/product/?pid=16846

[stumonster]

Email,FTP,PPPoE,Dynamic DNS,NTP sevice,

you intend for this camera to have its own dedicated ADSL connection ? and it will support dynamic DNS resolution which will allow you to register ( free ) with allow you to access it from the internet with an address for example http://yourlogin.dydns.org.

[stumonster]

http://www.fujiko.biz/product_desc.asp?spr...;scategoryid=97

from that page it looks like it is just rj45 ethernet to your existing router.

with that to just be use the basics ( view the camera via web browser ) you will need to register with a dynamic DNS provider ( dyndns.org ) , configure your router for dyndns by inserting the login and password you chose. set a static IP for the camera in its setup page and chose a port number for it to serve HTML from ( default will be 80 ) . then you will need to port forward your router ( www.portforward.com ) , choose a outward facing port number and forward ( link ) it to the IP and port you chose on the camera. then you should be able to put into a webbrowser ( even on most mobile phones with internet access ) http://YourChosenlogin.dydns.org:RoutersOu...tnumberYouChose.

your browser will resolve your routers IP address via dyndns and then will ask the router to conncect through the port number you chose on it to listen to the outside world for requests , it will then forward that request to the IP and port on your camera which will then serve you the pictures it is taking.( you should be able to set up a login and pwd on the camera also - but this is only basic security )

that is a basic rundown of the process involved

[thai4u]

from your explaination I understand I dont need to apply for a fix ip address from my internet provider ..?

right? I will connect via dyndns.org?

[youngkiwi]

All you need is to set up dynamic DNS on your internet router. I would recommend no-ip.org rather than dyndns.org as have found them to be much more reliable in terms of updating your IP number. The use of a dynamic DNS provider allows you to use a dynamic IP number (the type your internet provider usually allocates you) and is a work-around if a static IP number is not available or desired. Of course you will need to forward the relevant port on your router which your cam operates on (most likely port 80), or setup DMZ to point to your cam. The config may sound complex but actually it's very simple to set up. Good luck and hope this helps.

[stumonster]

thats correct

you configure your adsl router to login to dyndns and give it the new IP that has been assigned to it by your ISP ( every 24 hours ) and then dyndns updates its records so that the URL you have registered points to your new IP address

look in your router config and see what dynamic dns providers are there - mine only has dyndns.org and tz.com

Edited September 26, 2007 by stumonster

[Guest Reimar]

You don't need to open the dynamic DNS service in the router!

Just use No-IP.com and signup for a free service.

Setup the Camera incl. Port.

Forward the port in your Router the the port of the Camera.

Go back to No-ip.com, open your account and place the required settings there. If you don't run a Website you can use Port 80 for the camera and use DNS Host (A). Leave all other settings on standard. Not forget to download the DUC (Dynamic Update Client) wich you'll need to install on your system. This DUC will tell No-IP everytime the changes of your dynamic IP and you can set the schedule to your requirements (my one is set to 20 min.)

[stumonster]

Not forget to download the DUC (Dynamic Update Client) wich you'll need to install on your system. This DUC will tell No-IP everytime the changes of your dynamic IP and you can set the schedule to your requirements (my one is set to 20 min.)

this requires that the computer running the update client be switched on all the time also ?

[Guest Reimar]

Not forget to download the DUC (Dynamic Update Client) wich you'll need to install on your system. This DUC will tell No-IP everytime the changes of your dynamic IP and you can set the schedule to your requirements (my one is set to 20 min.)

this requires that the computer running the update client be switched on all the time also ?

Yes it does!

[thai4u]

ha...thats a new point..so not only the modem need to be turn on for get connection but also the pc ? once you turn off the pc I loose vision/cat see from the ip camera?

thats something new for me.

I thought I need only the modem turn on 24 hours..

[Guest Reimar]

Unfortunate your PC needs to run 24/7!

But what's the deal? A power consumption of about 250 watts/h? or that the PC has to run anyway?

If that is your concern I would run a cheapo old PC as a kind of server with the DUC. I although would install the Camera controlling software on that "server" plus and Remote Access Service like RAdmin so that you can access the camera view at all times via the Internet from all outside locations!

[thai4u]

So how people make security systems? once somebody plug off my pc (the server) I loose connection and vision on/inside my property? of course will have also connected recorder that I can reply when/if i want to look back in time but this way I loose all the benefit of have LIVE vision.. R u serious? is it the ONLY WAY?

the pc connect to a router and I thought just to keep it turn on (the modem) and thats all..

once its on its connect with the internet and I get the singles.. I understand that its not..woooaa.......

[Simmo]

You don't need a computer on 24/7 . Most routers will have a dyndns client built in & a lot of IP cameras will have it as well.

From work I monitor 6 warehouses around Thailand with just the camera and router on at the location.

[stumonster]

if you use one of the dynamic IP resolving services that are supported by your router you will not need a PC powered on all the time.

reimar and youngkiwi were only explaining other options - ( some routers will also support no-ip )

if you have both your router and camera plugged into their own UPS they will both stay on during power outages for a period of time - though if they lose power they should both come up with the last configuration

[LivinLOS]

The next issue I can see is that Thai internet is unreliable.. I need to manually reset my modem.. That seems common for many others I know with ADSL here too !!

[Guest Reimar]

OK, if you use DynDNS you can just use the Modem-Router and din't need a PC connected 24/7.

From bad experiences with DynDNS I personally wouldn't use it any more and I'm happy with No-IP and their exellent service!

The time I used the paid (not free) service from DynDNS their service was down several times for several day and that is unacceptable for me because I need the system running 24/7!

Using a Camera Survilances system means that I need to control some areas. Here I don't need a camera just for viewing "sometimes" but to record sudden areas and movement on this areas! Using a software which activate the Camera('s) with Motion controll I record all movements on that areas. For this I using a computer with huge HDD's where I can store up to 2 weeks of continous "movies"! This "movies" although having an evidence function in case of emergency!

The computer which running the "capture" need to run 24/7 as well. Running on the same computer the remote control software I've the choice to go in "direct view" at any time I want with the connected Camera('s)!

[thai4u]

reimer, what ip camera do u have?

[Guest Reimar]

reimer, what ip camera do u have?

I using one from Fujiko! But you can laughing and wonder the best pics I get from and simple old Video Camera connected to an TV-Card in a computer. So I barly use the IP Camera because the Pic's are not clear enough for me and I need that pic's in good quality for some evidence!

But anyway, it's everytime depend on what you need it for and may a IP Camera is good enough for you.