Must I Spend One Night At Cambodia Border?

[gibson]

Please I need you help.

I just got the last 7 days extension of my t.v. and the next week I have to go for 30 day stamp. But there are a little problem.

This is my situation :

April 18 : first 30 day stamp

May 17 : second 30 day stamp

June 14 : third 30 day stamp

July 10 : enter in Thailand from Laos by 60 days t.v. (I had to anticipate my visa run to Vientiane)

September 7 : got 30 days extension of my t.v.

October 5 : got 7 days extension of t.v. admitted until October 14

October 14 : I have to go for 30 days stamp again.

Total days from April 18 to October 14 = 180

I thing the 180 days roll not finish, because the October 14 is the 180 th day.

So I think have two options.

1) Spend one night at Cambodia border, and so go back in Thailand at October 15 . It’s should be the 181 th days, and so it should start the second 180 days roll

2) Go for 30 days stamp at October 15 instead 14, and pay one day of overstay at the border.

I don’t know what I can do please help me.

[lopburi3]

The rule is six months - not 180 days. Six months from first entry will be October 18.

I would either go to a Consulate for a new tourist visa or attempt to obtain a 7 day extension of stay from Immigration.

[Crossy]

It's NOT 180 days, it's SIX MONTHS which could be more or less than 180 days.

Lop beat me to it

Edited October 7, 2007 by Crossy

[gibson]

Thank you for your answers but I'd prefer to wait prior to get another t.v. do to the restriction policy about that.

I would be decided to spend few days at Cambodia border . It's no problem for me.

Are there some accomodations places, at Ban Laem or Poipet?

[cali4995]

Gibson, it would not be (1) night, it would be (4) nights as you would

not be able to re-enter Thailand again on visa-exempt entry until

October 18th. You must have left early on one of your border run

trips because you've really come-up short. You say you've already

got the additional 7-day extension so you're running out of options.

Lopburi3's advice is best but if it's not possible for you to get another

TV for whatever reason I would chose Ban Laem. Don't know where

you did your border runs in the past but you can buy a 200 baht

onward bus ticket here in lieu of confirmed flight ticket out of the country

within 30 days which they WILL REQUIRE at Aranyaprathet/Poi-pet.

As the other posters mentioned, 6 months is more like 183 days so you're

just not in a good situation here. And you're projected re-entry on the 18th

is unlikely to be completely trouble-free, expect a delay while calculations

are performed. There are no guarantees with this system. This is really

not an advisable maneuver, get a new TV if at all possible.

The nearest Cambodian town from the border is "Pailin" about 20KM away.

http://www.asiarooms.com/cambodia/pailin/h...hotel-room.html

Here's one hotel I found. Might be just as easy to go to Vientiane,Laos.

Edited October 7, 2007 by cali4995

[gibson]

Gibson, it would not be (1) night, it would be (4) nights as you would

not be able to re-enter Thailand again on visa-exempt entry until

October 18th. You must have left early on one of your border run

trips because you've really come-up short. You say you've already

got the additional 7-day extension so you're running out of options.

Lopburi3's advice is best but if it's not possible for you to get another

TV for whatever reason I would chose Ban Laem. Don't know where

you did your border runs in the past but you can buy a 200 baht

onward bus ticket here in lieu of confirmed flight ticket out of the country

within 30 days which they WILL REQUIRE at Aranyaprathet/Poi-pet.

As the other posters mentioned, 6 months is more like 183 days so you're

just not in a good situation here. And you're projected re-entry on the 18th

is unlikely to be completely trouble-free, expect a delay while calculations

are performed. There are no guarantees with this system. This is really

not an advisable maneuver, get a new TV if at all possible.

The nearest Cambodian town from the border is "Pailin" about 20KM away.

http://www.asiarooms.com/cambodia/pailin/h...hotel-room.html

Here's one hotel I found. Might be just as easy to go to Vientiane,Laos.

Thank you for your answer. The other solution is : I go on 18 instead the 14 and I pay 4 days of overstay at the border. And the problem is resolved.

[jstumbo]

Gibson, it would not be (1) night, it would be (4) nights as you would

not be able to re-enter Thailand again on visa-exempt entry until

October 18th. You must have left early on one of your border run

trips because you've really come-up short. You say you've already

got the additional 7-day extension so you're running out of options.

Lopburi3's advice is best but if it's not possible for you to get another

TV for whatever reason I would chose Ban Laem. Don't know where

you did your border runs in the past but you can buy a 200 baht

onward bus ticket here in lieu of confirmed flight ticket out of the country

within 30 days which they WILL REQUIRE at Aranyaprathet/Poi-pet.

As the other posters mentioned, 6 months is more like 183 days so you're

just not in a good situation here. And you're projected re-entry on the 18th

is unlikely to be completely trouble-free, expect a delay while calculations

are performed. There are no guarantees with this system. This is really

not an advisable maneuver, get a new TV if at all possible.

The nearest Cambodian town from the border is "Pailin" about 20KM away.

http://www.asiarooms.com/cambodia/pailin/h...hotel-room.html

Here's one hotel I found. Might be just as easy to go to Vientiane,Laos.

Thank you for your answer. The other solution is : I go on 18 instead the 14 and I pay 4 days of overstay at the border. And the problem is resolved.

Unless they happen to stop you and you get sent to the IDC.

I would avoid Asoke since I keep hearing of police searching people around there and asking for passports.

Do they charge you for overstay on the days you are in detention?

[cali4995]

Gibson, probably a better solution would be to go to Savannakhet, Laos

which is opposite Mukdahan province, Thailand. Overnight buses leave

from Morchit terminal in Bangkok. There is a Thai consulate there if

you want to try and get a tourist visa, OR it's also a nice, sleepy little

town if you just want to relax for a few days and re-enter on visa-exempt.

There are plenty of reasonably priced guesthouses. Decent restaurants,

not a bad place to visit. The Cambodian border is just bad news. I would

avoid the overstay. It's just more complications you don't need.

[Crossy]

If on overstay I'd avoid any of the land crossings like the plague, busses are regularly pulled and overstayers removed to the IDC (I don't think it's actually aimed at Farangs but it's easy to get caught in the net), additionally some borders are reportedly not allowing overstayers into the neighbour country, so you're doubly stuffed.

Why not get a tourist visa??

[gibson]

Thank you averybody for your answers. I planning to stay 4 nights in Pailin. I prefer to avoid to ask for another t.v. do to of the new regulations. I have 3 visa run on hand , and I wish to take advantage of them.

About t.v. I can wait for the next January.

[gibson]

The rule is six months that's right, but six months is equivalent to 180 days. Then I realized right .

I just come back today from 30 days stamp, I paid 500 baht for one day of overstay and so I got 30 days stamp. Not 4 nights outside Thailand.

I report my experience that it could be useful to whom should be in the same situation.

[Dupont]

The rule is six months that's right, but six months is equivalent to 180 days. Then I realized right .

I just come back today from 30 days stamp, I paid 500 baht for one day of overstay and so I got 30 days stamp. Not 4 nights outside Thailand.

I report my experience that it could be useful to whom should be in the same situation.

In your country, which 5 (or 6 in leap years) days don't you have? or can you elect them ie, no mother in laws birthday! No xmas, passover, lent etc? Or can you elect to have a shorter winter?

You have received excellent information and advice in this thread. My advice is heed it!

[tropo]

The rule is six months that's right, but six months is equivalent to 180 days. Then I realized right .

I just come back today from 30 days stamp, I paid 500 baht for one day of overstay and so I got 30 days stamp. Not 4 nights outside Thailand.

I report my experience that it could be useful to whom should be in the same situation.

In your country, which 5 (or 6 in leap years) days don't you have? or can you elect them ie, no mother in laws birthday! No xmas, passover, lent etc? Or can you elect to have a shorter winter?

You have received excellent information and advice in this thread. My advice is heed it!

The OP has already stated that he received a 30-day stamp after paying one day of overstay. We should be consulting him for advice.

How many days are in a 6-month period is irrelevant. A '6-month' period is meaningless with regard to duration calculations.

It would appear that the immigration officials are calculating back 180 days, which is really the only way that makes any sense.

If you don't agree, I challenge you to calculate a 6 month period from August 28 in a non-leap year, then try August 29, 30 and 31...and then September 1. What will the last day of these periods be? All March 1? Last time I checked there were no February 29, 30 and 31's on a non-leap year calendar.

You'll end up with a similar problem with October 31 to April, December 31 to June, March 31 to September and May 31 to November.

On the other '6-month' combinations some days will just need to be skipped altogether. eg. April 30 - October 30. 31 cannot be used.

[visarunner]

The rule is six months that's right, but six months is equivalent to 180 days. Then I realized right .

I just come back today from 30 days stamp, I paid 500 baht for one day of overstay and so I got 30 days stamp. Not 4 nights outside Thailand.

I report my experience that it could be useful to whom should be in the same situation.

You had good luck, normal your re-entry date is 18th of October only.

It's a six month rule, so the Officer in charge did a mistake.

Which border did you use?

[gibson]

Gentlements; the rule is : 6 months = 180 days.

Let's get informed. I did it. You do it also.

[visarunner]

Gentlements; the rule is : 6 months = 180 days.

Let's get informed. I did it. You do it also.

It' s a six-month period.