cdnvic Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Boeing 787 deliveries pushed back 6 months Last Updated: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 | 12:40 PM ET The Associated Press Boeing Co. is delaying initial deliveries of the 787 Dreamliner by six months due to continued challenges in completing assembly of the first airplanes, the company said Wednesday. Boeing said deliveries that had been scheduled to begin next May will be pushed back to late November or December 2008. 'We are disappointed over the schedule changes that we are announcing today.'—Boeing chairman and CEO Jim McNerney The first flight, already rescheduled once from the initial target of earlier this fall, now is anticipated around the end of the first quarter of 2008. Boeing said the postponement will not materially affect its earnings or guidance for next year. "We are disappointed over the schedule changes that we are announcing today," chairman and CEO Jim McNerney said in a statement from the company's Chicago headquarters. "Notwithstanding the challenges that we are experiencing in bringing forward this game-changing product, we remain confident in the design of the 787, and in the fundamental innovation and technologies that underpin it." McNerney had publicly voiced confidence as recently as four weeks ago that the airplane maker would be able to deliver the first 787 on time next May to Japan's All Nippon Airways Co., despite skepticism among industry observers following the first postponement. Assembly, software problems cited earlier On Sept. 5, Boeing formally pushed back the first test flight to mid-November or mid-December due to complications with final assembly and finalizing flight-control software. That would have left the company just five to six months before the first delivery, or about half the time it took to test the 777 a decade ago. The company first acknowledged problems meeting the original test-flight schedule in August, when it cited challenges with out-of-sequence production work, including parts shortages, and remaining software and systems integration activities. Boeing shares, which had moved higher Wednesday before the late-morning announcement, fell $2.05, or two per cent, to $99.40 in midday trading after briefly falling as low as $97.54. http://www.cbc.ca/money/story/2007/10/10/b...dreamliner.html
chavy Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 (edited) I was watching this on CNN with interest at lunch time. They were basically saying the delay is due to "fasteners" & a world wide shortage Edited October 11, 2007 by chavy
Crossy Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 I was watching this with interest at lunch time. They were basically saying the delay is due to "fasteners" & a world wide shortage Airbus used them all on its whale (ugly thing it is too).
think_too_mut Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 (edited) What humankind + their dogs know, made it a post here. CNN and other rubbish stations gave no perspective. What is the competition going to do? Shorten their 2 years late delivery of A380 or haste 5 years late (plane that had to be redesigned from scratch) A350? Or Chinese manufacturers come as a cavalry and save the day? Edited October 11, 2007 by think_too_mut
cdnvic Posted October 11, 2007 Author Posted October 11, 2007 What humankind + their dogs know, made it a post here. CNN and other rubbish stations gave no perspective. What is the competition going to do? Shorten their 2 years late delivery of A380 or haste 5 years late (plane that had to be redesigned from scratch) A350? Or Chinese manufacturers come as a cavalry and save the day?
think_too_mut Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 What humankind + their dogs know, made it a post here. CNN and other rubbish stations gave no perspective. What is the competition going to do? Shorten their 2 years late delivery of A380 or haste 5 years late (plane that had to be redesigned from scratch) A350? Or Chinese manufacturers come as a cavalry and save the day? Were you drunk when you posted that crap from stupidity enabling stations?
cdnvic Posted October 11, 2007 Author Posted October 11, 2007 That's your second incoherent post in the same topic. English please?
think_too_mut Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 (edited) Here is a link to a more intelligent article. It just stopped short of saying that the "new, composite materials" would crush as a sugar cube in an accident. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/11/dreamliner_delayed/ Edited October 11, 2007 by think_too_mut
cdnvic Posted October 11, 2007 Author Posted October 11, 2007 Looks like the guy making those claims wasn't exactly mentally stable. Composites have their advantages and disadvantages, but it's hard to say what the story is with Boeing's design. The delays don't surprise me though. The schedule they were trying to keep was always a bit on the optimistic side.
britmaveric Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 (edited) Fired Boeing employee that who never worked on the 787 project? Schedule was very optimistic - not surprised with the delay. Edited October 11, 2007 by britmaveric
ThaidleHands Posted October 11, 2007 Posted October 11, 2007 Here is a link to a more intelligent article.It just stopped short of saying that the "new, composite materials" would crush as a sugar cube in an accident. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/11/dreamliner_delayed/ It infers nothing of the sort.
think_too_mut Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 (edited) Here is a link to a more intelligent article.It just stopped short of saying that the "new, composite materials" would crush as a sugar cube in an accident. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/11/dreamliner_delayed/ It infers nothing of the sort. This might: "The recently conducted crashworthiness tests — in which Boeing dropped partial fuselage sections from a height of about 15 feet at a test site in Mesa, Ariz. — are inadequate and do not match the stringency of comparable tests conducted on a 737 fuselage section in 2000." In the link, it has "recent articles" and at the top is one where I took the quote from. Edited October 12, 2007 by think_too_mut
cdnvic Posted October 12, 2007 Author Posted October 12, 2007 Here is a link to a more intelligent article.It just stopped short of saying that the "new, composite materials" would crush as a sugar cube in an accident. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/11/dreamliner_delayed/ It infers nothing of the sort. This might: "The recently conducted crashworthiness tests — in which Boeing dropped partial fuselage sections from a height of about 15 feet at a test site in Mesa, Ariz. — are inadequate and do not match the stringency of comparable tests conducted on a 737 fuselage section in 2000." In the link, it has "recent articles" and at the top is one where I took the quote from. Still doesn't say that.
TBWG Posted October 12, 2007 Posted October 12, 2007 Here is a link to a more intelligent article.It just stopped short of saying that the "new, composite materials" would crush as a sugar cube in an accident. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/10/11/dreamliner_delayed/ It infers nothing of the sort. This might: "The recently conducted crashworthiness tests — in which Boeing dropped partial fuselage sections from a height of about 15 feet at a test site in Mesa, Ariz. — are inadequate and do not match the stringency of comparable tests conducted on a 737 fuselage section in 2000." In the link, it has "recent articles" and at the top is one where I took the quote from. Still doesn't say that. Hi Came across this pic which I thought was rather impressive......I wonder if Boeing will live to regret their gloating over the A380 delays? TBWG
Phil Conners Posted October 13, 2007 Posted October 13, 2007 Looks like a photoshop-job - and not even a particular good one.
cdnvic Posted October 13, 2007 Author Posted October 13, 2007 (edited) Looks like a photoshop-job - and not even a particular good one. It's actually a great photo by Andrew Hunt, a respected aviation photographer of the A380 taxiing across the motorway at Singapore-Changi. EDIT: Found the original. http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0984364/M/ Edited October 13, 2007 by cdnvic
cdnvic Posted October 13, 2007 Author Posted October 13, 2007 Looks like a photoshop-job - and not even a particular good one. It's actually a great photo by Andrew Hunt, a respected aviation photographer of the A380 taxiing across the motorway at Singapore-Changi. EDIT: Found the original. http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0984364/M/ Sorry, I gave a wrong link... this is the correct one: http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0957189/M/
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