Platinum 150 Dj8

[dutchrdam]

After all this technical talk now a nice photo of my bike

Regards

[dutchrdam]

Today the bike did click 1000 Km on the meter so it’s time for a little update. There were no serious problems till now. I did lost some parts but all not real important parts.

Here is the list of problems till now :

1 Lock caps from the left and rigt suitcases. These lock caps are mounted with a self screw type

screw with a diameter of 1 mm. Those screws break and make the caps lose.

2 1 Complete left suitcase after a Toyota Vigo try to make a left hand pass in a to narrow

space. The guy did pay me 5000 Bath and at the shop they replace it for 1200 Bath. So

that where a lucky accident for me.

3. 1 Rubber from the shift gear extension were broken. Replaced for free by dealer.

This where all. I also get the report from the oil test laboratory and they found no real bad levels for a new engine. As said before I will keep these results for reference to the future.

Wit this report I also send a photo of my motorbike where you can see that I did lower the foot steps for a better sit. The iron parts are all sand blasted and then sprayed with soft staying and elastic under and upper paint. This because normal paint would get quick ugly by the impact of stones.

I also did install a 105 DB electronic sirene to keep the fellow users of the road awake.

With regards

Edited November 26, 2007 by dutchrdam

[dutchrdam]

I received last day some mails from college Platinum motorbike owners. Some with some problems but most are OK with it. The main thing they don’t want respond here is the furious “HD Clan” who all condemn that is not a HD, Honda, Suzuki or Yamaha.

Maybe it’s a good plan to put up a Platinum Users Group (PUG). Here we can discus problems, give advice and tell about our motorbikes.

Let me know if there is interests in a PUG

Regards

[technologybytes]

I have read all the forums with comments about the Platinum because I was trying to get honest and unbiased advice, it seems that there is a lot of opinion about chinese bikes and not much of it positive.

Anyway, I recently purchased a new Chinese bike called a Gusto, it's a 200c Road Bike marketed in Thailand by JRD, they make no secret that it's manufactured in China or Taiwan.

My experience and research suggests that most of the problems with modern (ie last 2 years or so) chinese bikes comes from poor assembly by dealers, the bikes arrive from China in crates.

I have never really heard of anyone who had any real problems with engines.

I hear people complain that so many parts have been changed under warranty, I guess that at least that shows that companies like JRD, Tiger etc are serious about their warranties.

China now export more bikes than any country in the world, and quality is certainly getting better and better. It's only a matter of time until Chinese bikes become mainstream. Yes they do need to improve quality but they are moving in the right direction.

I for one am happy with my Chinese bike, and I suggest that many owners are. Most people (not all) with negative opinions have never actually ridden or looked closer at Chinese bikes.

[gmann]

I have read all the forums with comments about the Platinum because I was trying to get honest and unbiased advice, it seems that there is a lot of opinion about chinese bikes and not much of it positive.

Anyway, I recently purchased a new Chinese bike called a Gusto, it's a 200c Road Bike marketed in Thailand by JRD, they make no secret that it's manufactured in China or Taiwan.

My experience and research suggests that most of the problems with modern (ie last 2 years or so) chinese bikes comes from poor assembly by dealers, the bikes arrive from China in crates.

I have never really heard of anyone who had any real problems with engines.

I hear people complain that so many parts have been changed under warranty, I guess that at least that shows that companies like JRD, Tiger etc are serious about their warranties.

China now export more bikes than any country in the world, and quality is certainly getting better and better. It's only a matter of time until Chinese bikes become mainstream. Yes they do need to improve quality but they are moving in the right direction.

I for one am happy with my Chinese bike, and I suggest that many owners are. Most people (not all) with negative opinions have never actually ridden or looked closer at Chinese bikes.

I have a motorcycle company in the UK and we have been selling SUPERBYKE brand chinese made motorcycles for a while. In my opinion these are probably the best chinese bikes you can get. They all meet the european saftey and emission standards and come with full parts and labour warrenties. Other makes like peugeot and benelli also make their bikes(scooters) in china and you wouldn't call them chinese crap. May be european crap if you are one of these die hard , it must be a honda type of people. Remember that people were saying the same thing about the japenese motorcycle industry when they were starting out.

I know that some of these really cheap chinese bikes are not very well built, and use cheap materials to keep the costs down but they are not all like that. SUPERBYKE are not the cheapest chinese bikes you can get but they are built to reasonably high standards and the market for them in the UK is growing fast. Chinese bikes will be main stream very soon. Ok, the japenese factories will be ahead in terms of the technology involved with the big bike market for a number of years yet, but small capacity scooters and motorcycles the chinese are already producing more and the technolgy here is the same as the japenese beacause it has been bought from the japanese.

In terms of most quality controll issues, this is usualy down to the mechanic who is assembling them. I have noticed here in Thailand that the honda bikes are fully assembled at the factory and then delivered to the show rooms around the country basicaly ready to sell.

The chinese bikes are delivered in the crate only part assembled. This means they have to be fully assembled by the shop mechanics. If like us you know what you are doing it is fine because you can check the whole bike over- torque settings of bolts etc. and know that the bike will not fall apart on the customer. Unfortunatly alot of shop mechanics here in Thialand ( and the UK ) just do not have the skill or just simply can not be arsed to do a proper job.This leads to an unjust reputation for all chinese bikes.

Final point is that i will be setting up a SUPERBYKE shop in Thailand- starting in Samui and hopefuly setting up a dealer network through out Thailand. If you want a good chinese made bike with european standards keep a look out for us.

Also if you are in samui and want a good mechanic to work on your motorcycle- scooters to harley's get in contact.

[email protected]

You can check out the full superbyke range at www.superbyke.co.uk

I know this looks like a bit of an advert but it is all true.There are many very good chinese makes out there and people need to stop listening to the pub talk experts and listen to the people who work on these bikes and who own and test these bikes, to find out the real info on them.

Japan is number 1 but china is a close second. America just make a label. Harley engines are made in Japan.

[Beardog]

edit

Edited April 15, 2008 by Beardog

[Beardog]

I have read all the forums with comments about the Platinum because I was trying to get honest and unbiased advice, it seems that there is a lot of opinion about chinese bikes and not much of it positive.

Anyway, I recently purchased a new Chinese bike called a Gusto, it's a 200c Road Bike marketed in Thailand by JRD, they make no secret that it's manufactured in China or Taiwan.

My experience and research suggests that most of the problems with modern (ie last 2 years or so) chinese bikes comes from poor assembly by dealers, the bikes arrive from China in crates.

I have never really heard of anyone who had any real problems with engines.

I hear people complain that so many parts have been changed under warranty, I guess that at least that shows that companies like JRD, Tiger etc are serious about their warranties.

China now export more bikes than any country in the world, and quality is certainly getting better and better. It's only a matter of time until Chinese bikes become mainstream. Yes they do need to improve quality but they are moving in the right direction.

I for one am happy with my Chinese bike, and I suggest that many owners are. Most people (not all) with negative opinions have never actually ridden or looked closer at Chinese bikes.

I have a motorcycle company in the UK and we have been selling SUPERBYKE brand chinese made motorcycles for a while. In my opinion these are probably the best chinese bikes you can get. They all meet the european saftey and emission standards and come with full parts and labour warrenties. Other makes like peugeot and benelli also make their bikes(scooters) in china and you wouldn't call them chinese crap. May be european crap if you are one of these die hard , it must be a honda type of people. Remember that people were saying the same thing about the japenese motorcycle industry when they were starting out.

I know that some of these really cheap chinese bikes are not very well built, and use cheap materials to keep the costs down but they are not all like that. SUPERBYKE are not the cheapest chinese bikes you can get but they are built to reasonably high standards and the market for them in the UK is growing fast. Chinese bikes will be main stream very soon. Ok, the japenese factories will be ahead in terms of the technology involved with the big bike market for a number of years yet, but small capacity scooters and motorcycles the chinese are already producing more and the technolgy here is the same as the japenese beacause it has been bought from the japanese.

In terms of most quality controll issues, this is usualy down to the mechanic who is assembling them. I have noticed here in Thailand that the honda bikes are fully assembled at the factory and then delivered to the show rooms around the country basicaly ready to sell.

The chinese bikes are delivered in the crate only part assembled. This means they have to be fully assembled by the shop mechanics. If like us you know what you are doing it is fine because you can check the whole bike over- torque settings of bolts etc. and know that the bike will not fall apart on the customer. Unfortunatly alot of shop mechanics here in Thialand ( and the UK ) just do not have the skill or just simply can not be arsed to do a proper job.This leads to an unjust reputation for all chinese bikes.

Final point is that i will be setting up a SUPERBYKE shop in Thailand- starting in Samui and hopefuly setting up a dealer network through out Thailand. If you want a good chinese made bike with european standards keep a look out for us.

Also if you are in samui and want a good mechanic to work on your motorcycle- scooters to harley's get in contact.

[email protected]

You can check out the full superbyke range at www.superbyke.co.uk

I know this looks like a bit of an advert but it is all true.There are many very good chinese makes out there and people need to stop listening to the pub talk experts and listen to the people who work on these bikes and who own and test these bikes, to find out the real info on them.

Japan is number 1 but china is a close second. America just make a label. Harley engines are made in Japan.

Your probably new to this forum. You should read the forum rules before the mods bust your chops If you want to advertise you need to post in the classified to pitch your own company. Better you not post against the forum rules instead of suspension or a banning2)

Due to potential spam problems, email addresses are not permitted in posts or signatures. Phone numbers are not allowed in signatures.

URL links from public to private forums are not permitted

Good luck on your venture!

[gmann]

I have read all the forums with comments about the Platinum because I was trying to get honest and unbiased advice, it seems that there is a lot of opinion about chinese bikes and not much of it positive.

Anyway, I recently purchased a new Chinese bike called a Gusto, it's a 200c Road Bike marketed in Thailand by JRD, they make no secret that it's manufactured in China or Taiwan.

My experience and research suggests that most of the problems with modern (ie last 2 years or so) chinese bikes comes from poor assembly by dealers, the bikes arrive from China in crates.

I have never really heard of anyone who had any real problems with engines.

I hear people complain that so many parts have been changed under warranty, I guess that at least that shows that companies like JRD, Tiger etc are serious about their warranties.

China now export more bikes than any country in the world, and quality is certainly getting better and better. It's only a matter of time until Chinese bikes become mainstream. Yes they do need to improve quality but they are moving in the right direction.

I for one am happy with my Chinese bike, and I suggest that many owners are. Most people (not all) with negative opinions have never actually ridden or looked closer at Chinese bikes.

I have a motorcycle company in the UK and we have been selling SUPERBYKE brand chinese made motorcycles for a while. In my opinion these are probably the best chinese bikes you can get. They all meet the european saftey and emission standards and come with full parts and labour warrenties. Other makes like peugeot and benelli also make their bikes(scooters) in china and you wouldn't call them chinese crap. May be european crap if you are one of these die hard , it must be a honda type of people. Remember that people were saying the same thing about the japenese motorcycle industry when they were starting out.

I know that some of these really cheap chinese bikes are not very well built, and use cheap materials to keep the costs down but they are not all like that. SUPERBYKE are not the cheapest chinese bikes you can get but they are built to reasonably high standards and the market for them in the UK is growing fast. Chinese bikes will be main stream very soon. Ok, the japenese factories will be ahead in terms of the technology involved with the big bike market for a number of years yet, but small capacity scooters and motorcycles the chinese are already producing more and the technolgy here is the same as the japenese beacause it has been bought from the japanese.

In terms of most quality controll issues, this is usualy down to the mechanic who is assembling them. I have noticed here in Thailand that the honda bikes are fully assembled at the factory and then delivered to the show rooms around the country basicaly ready to sell.

The chinese bikes are delivered in the crate only part assembled. This means they have to be fully assembled by the shop mechanics. If like us you know what you are doing it is fine because you can check the whole bike over- torque settings of bolts etc. and know that the bike will not fall apart on the customer. Unfortunatly alot of shop mechanics here in Thialand ( and the UK ) just do not have the skill or just simply can not be arsed to do a proper job.This leads to an unjust reputation for all chinese bikes.

Final point is that i will be setting up a SUPERBYKE shop in Thailand- starting in Samui and hopefuly setting up a dealer network through out Thailand. If you want a good chinese made bike with european standards keep a look out for us.

Also if you are in samui and want a good mechanic to work on your motorcycle- scooters to harley's get in contact.

[email protected]

You can check out the full superbyke range at www.superbyke.co.uk

I know this looks like a bit of an advert but it is all true.There are many very good chinese makes out there and people need to stop listening to the pub talk experts and listen to the people who work on these bikes and who own and test these bikes, to find out the real info on them.

Japan is number 1 but china is a close second. America just make a label. Harley engines are made in Japan.

Your probably new to this forum. You should read the forum rules before the mods bust your chops If you want to advertise you need to post in the classified to pitch your own company. Better you not post against the forum rules instead of suspension or a banning2)

Due to potential spam problems, email addresses are not permitted in posts or signatures. Phone numbers are not allowed in signatures.

URL links from public to private forums are not permitted

Good luck on your venture!

oops . sorry if i upset any one with my post. it wont happen again.

thanks for the advice.

[dutchrdam]

The counter is now on 5500 Km and still happy with the Platinum.

Underneath a list of problems and modifications. Problems.

- Rear right turn light didn't work. Wire broken.

Self repaired with wire extension and wire tape.

- Left lock suitcase broken. Broken open by Big C.

Outside repaired and spray black. Inside replaced by magnet that will keep the lid closed.

- Battery flat.

Battery replaced by dealer under warranty.

- Petrol meter stay low.

Is in order by dealer. Will replaced by dealer under warranty.

- Right front light chrome come lose.

Must spray it again.

Modifications.

- Footsteps lowered by 5 cm for a better sit. ( Body length 2+ meter )

- Saddle higher by 5 cm for a better sit. ( Body length 2+ meter )

- Secure the lights with bolds and nuts. Standard a clip-lock but they break and then the lights go

resonance on motor vibrations.

- Alarm siren 105 Db. ( Burglar alarm and also use as horn.)

- Take away duo sit and place suitcase more up front.

- Lower and backwards the left and right turn lights.

- 2 Extra H4 lights on bar.

- Make extern cables inside the frames.

Must do in future.

- Smaller, 36 instead of 42, back chain gear.( Where oh where I can find a chain gear like that ??)

- Spray the right front light.

- Replace the petrol meter. (Dealer)

I use the bike most for commuter traffic, every day about 60 Km. Partly real slow driving between the cars in the morning and evening traffic jam. But also 90 km/h on main roads outside the center.

The average petrol use is 1 liter on 25 kilometer.

No use of oil at all. Last oil, 4500 km, also send to lab for test on contents. No disturbing result and the metal count show that the run-in period is almost over.

In all the time the bike never did leave me down and give me a great ride.

Regards