supbangkok Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Just to be clear its not the number of entries in 180 days, it is the total count of days? I need to stay here until the end of March at which time I will be leaving the country for good. By my count (visa free days total 82, 3 entries) I still should have 8 visa free days left? Will they stamp me in at the airport for 8 days? Any ideas for convincing the duty officer as to allowing this? My idea; come in with the 8 days, do a quick border hop a few days later, as then I will be in a new 180 day period, get a new 30 day stamp to stay to the end of February, hop again for 2nd 30 day stamp then bye bye LOS? Did I figure this all right? In theory it works but in reality? Any thoughts would be most appreciated. My history- New USA Passport Feb 2006 3 tourist visas 2006 Entries 2007- X Jan1-Feb1 TR Feb2-May1 TR May12-Aug9 ________________________________ X Aug13-Sep6-25 days X Sep9-Oct5-27 days X Jan2-Jan31-30 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Just to be clear its not the number of entries in 180 days, it is the total count of days?I need to stay here until the end of March at which time I will be leaving the country for good. By my count (visa free days total 82, 3 entries) I still should have 8 visa free days left? Will they stamp me in at the airport for 8 days? Any ideas for convincing the duty officer as to allowing this? My idea; come in with the 8 days, do a quick border hop a few days later, as then I will be in a new 180 day period, get a new 30 day stamp to stay to the end of February, hop again for 2nd 30 day stamp then bye bye LOS? Did I figure this all right? In theory it works but in reality? Any thoughts would be most appreciated. My history- New USA Passport Feb 2006 3 tourist visas 2006 Entries 2007- X Jan1-Feb1 TR Feb2-May1 TR May12-Aug9 ________________________________ X Aug13-Sep6-25 days X Sep9-Oct5-27 days X Jan2-Jan31-30 days Actually it is the total number of days in a 6 month period. NOT 180 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cali4995 Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Supbangkok, I'll do this but it's going to involve a wee bit of conjecture because your data is not entirely clear. The rule is 90 days in 6 months for visa-exempt. # entries irrelevant. 2007 AUG 13 - SEP 6 = 25 days SEP 9 - OCT 5 = 27 days 2008 JAN 2 = JAN 31 = 30 days ( I have to guess this is your proposed stay) Yes, I also came out with 82 used days. Your intial entry AUG 13 started the 6 month period, there should be a highlighted #1 above this stamp. Your 6 month period will end FEB 12. Theoretically you should be entitled to 8 more days but you may only get 7 if exit and re-enter on same date. As you can see you're going to be short. It may be possible for you to obtain an additional 7-day extension. Or, you can plan on spending a few days outside the country. The first date you would be allowed to re-enter Thailand on another visa-exempt would be FEB 13. Other variables, proof of onward travel, what the individual immigration officer chooses to do, are beyond my intuitive scope. Yes, I concur wholeheartedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Youre a brave man Cali. I can never grasp the maths with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_Pat_Pong Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Youre a brave man Cali. I can never grasp the maths with this. Super brave ... without a lot of grasp about the world about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstumbo Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Supbangkok, I'll do this but it's going to involve a wee bit of conjecture because your datais not entirely clear. The rule is 90 days in 6 months for visa-exempt. # entries irrelevant. 2007 AUG 13 - SEP 6 = 25 days SEP 9 - OCT 5 = 27 days 2008 JAN 2 = JAN 31 = 30 days ( I have to guess this is your proposed stay) Yes, I also came out with 82 used days. Your intial entry AUG 13 started the 6 month period, there should be a highlighted #1 above this stamp. Your 6 month period will end FEB 12. Theoretically you should be entitled to 8 more days but you may only get 7 if exit and re-enter on same date. As you can see you're going to be short. It may be possible for you to obtain an additional 7-day extension. Or, you can plan on spending a few days outside the country. The first date you would be allowed to re-enter Thailand on another visa-exempt would be FEB 13. Other variables, proof of onward travel, what the individual immigration officer chooses to do, are beyond my intuitive scope. Yes, I concur wholeheartedly. Because you will be short, maybe a trip to Vientiane for a tourist visa is in order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cali4995 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Youre a brave man Cali. I can never grasp the maths with this. Super brave ... without a lot of grasp about the world about him. Not brave, since October 2006, it's a couple of hundred hours analyzing all the relevant information pertaining to visa-exempt entries and tourist visas. Those with a more worldly grasp can answer the next 50 visa-exempt questions and do the necessary calculations. If you have the balls patpong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supbangkok Posted January 11, 2008 Author Share Posted January 11, 2008 Well was thinking of Laos but oh what a pain. I am happy to fly anywhere or buy return tickets but have little interest in going for a visa again. I have to take a small trip 1/31-2/3 so would need to get a double entry and that seems unlikely these days? Any others with thoughts? Double entry in Penang? Oh what a mess and it really just makes me sour on my whole 3 years here. Counting the days to get out... And Mr. Lite, it seems as everyone agrees that it is 180 days, as how long is a month? 28 Days? 30 Days? or 31 days? Even Thai Immigration in there infinite wisdom would need to have a numerical value assigned to the length of stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lopburi3 Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 It is six months - example: January 11 through July 10 = 182 days. Or July 11 through January 10 = 184 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Well was thinking of Laos but oh what a pain. I am happy to fly anywhere or buy return tickets but have little interest in going for a visa again. I have to take a small trip 1/31-2/3 so would need to get a double entry and that seems unlikely these days? Any others with thoughts? Double entry in Penang? Oh what a mess and it really just makes me sour on my whole 3 years here. Counting the days to get out... And Mr. Lite, it seems as everyone agrees that it is 180 days, as how long is a month? 28 Days? 30 Days? or 31 days? Even Thai Immigration in there infinite wisdom would need to have a numerical value assigned to the length of stay. Many members are getting double entry tourist Visas in Vientianne. And a Month is a Month, be it 28, 30 or 31 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstumbo Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Many members are getting double entry tourist Visas in Vientianne. And if you only are able to get a single entry, you could always get a re-entry permit to keep the visa alive during your short trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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