Assaulted At Windmill

[Bangkok Barry]

My evening at the Windmill on Soi Diamond in Pattaya was ruined when I was set upon by three or four thugs, resulting in a cut lip and cut on the bridge of my nose.

The situation arose after I had spent around four hours in the bar and spent thousands of baht on drinks and tips. I had been entertaining one of the dancers, but after I made a visit to the toilet I returned to find her missing from my table. Another dancer told me she had been moved to another table. I approached the mamasan to ask why and told her it was bad customer service, and she exploded and started screaming and asked why I was making trouble and began pushing me away. I defended myself by holding her wrists, and then went to my dancer’s new table. Then several thugs rushed to the table and attacked me, hitting me on the side of the head - which can be fatal - and I had to curl up and shield myself from them. Only later did I discover the injuries they had inflicted and the blood on my glasses.

Dean (? - sorry for not being sure as I was a bit shaken up after being attacked), who was apparently in charge in place of the missing owner Dave, came to the table with a Thai security guard or tourist policeman (?) to investigate. He heard my side of the story, spoke with the mamasan and a customer witness who later told me he used to be a go-go bar owner, and the mamasan was sent home. The Thai man told me she was a crazy woman, so that begs the question, if that is known, why is she employed there. She lied to Dean (?) and told him she was going to ask me if my dancer could be moved, but at no time did she do so. She simply wanted to move her to a table with customers but no dancer, and didn’t give a dam_n about me and the money I had already spent.

Dean (?) has been cleverly schooled, and at no time did he admit any wrongdoing by the bar, and although he took my phone number and e-mail address I was offered no way to contact him or Dave or anyone else. I was told by the security officer/policeman (?) I could press charges for assault, but really, what’s the point with a farang against Thais and them saying one thing and me another. Not one single member of staff, or customer, said I was in the wrong when Dean (?) went around gathering the facts.

I was not drunk, and my dancer, other dancers and the ex go-go owner all told Dean (?) that I was a good customer. I am not some young tattooed trouble-maker spoiling for a fight. I am close to retiring age, and highly respected in my field of journalism where I am arguably one of the top 10 specialists in the world.

There appears to be a worrying problem with Dave’s bars, and I don’t care how active he is on the forums. Last year I wrote on a forum about bad customer service and management at another of his bars, Club 69 on Soi 15, and he wrote an abusive and dismissive response. Only later did he actually bother to go there and investigate and fired the manager and sent me an apology. It might make a difference, of course, if he actually spent time at the places he is involved with and saw what goes on.

Dean told me he would report to the missing Dave and ask him to call me.

The appeal of the nightlife in Thailand, while sordid in other countries, has long been regarded as a fun thing here. But that has always been skin-deep and like so many things in the Land Of False Smiles an illusion, and increasing the squalid underbelly is being exposed.

[onnut]

I was not drunk, and my dancer, other dancers and the ex go-go owner all told Dean (?) that I was a good customer. I am not some young tattooed trouble-maker spoiling for a fight. I am close to retiring age, and highly respected in my field of journalism where I am arguably one of the top 10 specialists in the world.

I think you just lost some respect there

[meatgrowler]

My evening at the Windmill on Soi Diamond in Pattaya was ruined when I was set upon by three or four thugs, resulting in a cut lip and cut on the bridge of my nose.

The situation arose after I had spent around four hours in the bar and spent thousands of baht on drinks and tips. I had been entertaining one of the dancers, but after I made a visit to the toilet I returned to find her missing from my table. Another dancer told me she had been moved to another table. I approached the mamasan to ask why and told her it was bad customer service, and she exploded and started screaming and asked why I was making trouble and began pushing me away. I defended myself by holding her wrists, and then went to my dancer’s new table. Then several thugs rushed to the table and attacked me, hitting me on the side of the head - which can be fatal - and I had to curl up and shield myself from them. Only later did I discover the injuries they had inflicted and the blood on my glasses.

Dean (? - sorry for not being sure as I was a bit shaken up after being attacked), who was apparently in charge in place of the missing owner Dave, came to the table with a Thai security guard or tourist policeman (?) to investigate. He heard my side of the story, spoke with the mamasan and a customer witness who later told me he used to be a go-go bar owner, and the mamasan was sent home. The Thai man told me she was a crazy woman, so that begs the question, if that is known, why is she employed there. She lied to Dean (?) and told him she was going to ask me if my dancer could be moved, but at no time did she do so. She simply wanted to move her to a table with customers but no dancer, and didn’t give a dam_n about me and the money I had already spent.

Dean (?) has been cleverly schooled, and at no time did he admit any wrongdoing by the bar, and although he took my phone number and e-mail address I was offered no way to contact him or Dave or anyone else. I was told by the security officer/policeman (?) I could press charges for assault, but really, what’s the point with a farang against Thais and them saying one thing and me another. Not one single member of staff, or customer, said I was in the wrong when Dean (?) went around gathering the facts.

I was not drunk, and my dancer, other dancers and the ex go-go owner all told Dean (?) that I was a good customer. I am not some young tattooed trouble-maker spoiling for a fight. I am close to retiring age, and highly respected in my field of journalism where I am arguably one of the top 10 specialists in the world.

There appears to be a worrying problem with Dave’s bars, and I don’t care how active he is on the forums. Last year I wrote on a forum about bad customer service and management at another of his bars, Club 69 on Soi 15, and he wrote an abusive and dismissive response. Only later did he actually bother to go there and investigate and fired the manager and sent me an apology. It might make a difference, of course, if he actually spent time at the places he is involved with and saw what goes on.

Dean told me he would report to the missing Dave and ask him to call me.

The appeal of the nightlife in Thailand, while sordid in other countries, has long been regarded as a fun thing here. But that has always been skin-deep and like so many things in the Land Of False Smiles an illusion, and increasing the squalid underbelly is being exposed.

GEEEEK

[Tammi]

I am close to retiring age, and highly respected in my field of journalism where I am arguably one of the top 10 specialists in the world.

There appears to be a worrying problem with Dave’s bars, and I don’t care how active he is on the forums. Last year I wrote on a forum about bad customer service and management at another of his bars, Club 69 on Soi 15, and he wrote an abusive and dismissive response. Only later did he actually bother to go there and investigate and fired the manager and sent me an apology. It might make a difference, of course, if he actually spent time at the places he is involved with and saw what goes on.

Dean told me he would report to the missing Dave and ask him to call me.

The appeal of the nightlife in Thailand, while sordid in other countries, has long been regarded as a fun thing here. But that has always been skin-deep and like so many things in the Land Of False Smiles an illusion, and increasing the squalid underbelly is being exposed.

You'll be able to use your journalistic specialty to write about Pattaya as you see it - keep you going nicely in your old age retirement.

I've never come across a false smile in all my years here but then I don't frequent bars and go-go dancers during their working hours.

[stevemiddie]

Highly respected journo...........knocking around in Go-Go,s.

Each to their own I suppose.

4 hours and thousands of baht spent probably meant your senses were alcohol affected. Perhaps your manner was perceived as being aggressive when you confronted the Mamasan?

Any sign of aggression to said Mamasan is only going to have one conclusion.

I guess you got it.

I fail to understand why you still want to frequent thses places if its such an "illusion " and " squalid "

Edited February 8, 2008 by stevemiddie

[sweetchariot]

What do you do for 4 HOURS in a go-go? I would be bored after 4 minutes.

As Steve said if you were there for that long then alcohol must have been a contributing factor. Personally I would be rat-arsed if I sat in the same bar for 4 hours.

[stevemiddie]

What do you do for 4 HOURS in a go-go? I would be bored after 4 minutes.

As Steve said if you were there for that long then alcohol must have been a contributing factor. Personally I would be rat-arsed if I sat in the same bar for 4 hours.

I,d be wasted after 2

[Bangkok Barry]

Gentlemen

I averaged, I think, one beer an hour. The money was spent largely on drinks for my dancer, and she had plenty, as well as a generous tip during the course of the evening. She was highly entertaining and we were having a great time, until the mamasan decided to spoil it.

[onnut]

Gentlemen

I averaged, I think, one beer an hour. The money was spent largely on drinks for my dancer, and she had plenty, as well as a generous tip during the course of the evening. She was highly entertaining and we were having a great time, until the mamasan decided to spoil it.

Perv

Tip? I would of given the whole length...

Edited February 8, 2008 by onnut

[chanman]

Gentlemen

I averaged, I think, one beer an hour. The money was spent largely on drinks for my dancer, and she had plenty, as well as a generous tip during the course of the evening. She was highly entertaining and we were having a great time, until the mamasan decided to spoil it.

Perv

Tip? I would of given the whole length...

Only 2 things smell of fish one is fish and I have no doubt on this evening one was BKB's fingers

Edited February 8, 2008 by chanman

[Bangkok Barry]

That's the amazing thing - no fish smell. Jeez, we were having a great time until this happened. Never know what's around the corner, do we.

[Pattaya_Fox]

Discussion of bar girls including gogo bar girls and dancers is against the forum rules.

This thread soon degenerated.

Closed.