guyshown Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 A couple of questions for the forum members; Is Gai Damm the same as Thai Native Chicken? Is Gai Bann the same as Gai Damm? How many clutches a year do the hens lay? does any one have any pictures to show thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chownah Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 (edited) My wife (Thai) says that Gai bann means a chicken that is raised running around someones house as opposed to being raise in a cage or in a big commercial setting.....home grown free range chickens. She says that Gai damm is a kind of chicken whose feathers and skin and meat and bone are black...or at least dark colored and that Chinese people make soup from this kind of chicken as medicine. She has never heard of any particular kind of chicken being a native Thai chicken. I don't know if she is correct about this but these are her ideas. Chownah Edited February 27, 2008 by chownah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maizefarmer Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Gai Damm - the name stemming from the darker meat they have - yes, they are indigenous, being one of the 2 indigenous Thai chickens reared for consumption - but usualy only in domestic/home settings because they carry less meat on them at maturity. However, geneticaly they also carry considerably less fat lipids. Same as Gai Baan? Yes, same thing although keep in mind that someone saying they have Gai Baan is more than likely to be refeering to the fact they they have chickens running around at home, than knowingly making a comment about the type of chicken they have. Gai Dam are not sutiable for commercial battery rearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyshown Posted February 28, 2008 Author Share Posted February 28, 2008 Chownah and Maizefarmer - thank you very much for the help -- Your comments confirmed what i had thought. I have ate Gai Damm before and it is very good tasting and would like to keep a small amount around my house for personal consumption. I do not know off the top of my head where to locate some chicks, i will ask around and see what i come up with. Once again both of your comments is very appreciated. this forum is usefull because of floks liek yourselves cheers guyshown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 Februarys LIVESTOCK INSIDE MAGAZINE, available in just about any magazine shop has a 4/5 page article with pics this month on a guy commercially raising these. Get your wife to buy a copy & translate the info for you:) A couple of questions for the forum members;Is Gai Damm the same as Thai Native Chicken? Is Gai Bann the same as Gai Damm? How many clutches a year do the hens lay? does any one have any pictures to show thanks in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh101 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Ok lets confuse the question even more. Mountain Chicken ??? Very dark, tasty, succulent meat. Is it just a wild or feral chicken ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chownah Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Here's a link to the Wikipedia article on silkie chickens which I guess is the same thing as Gai Dam but not sure....has pictures...strange looking chicken!!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silkie Chownah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maizefarmer Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Ok lets confuse the question even more.Mountain Chicken ??? Very dark, tasty, succulent meat. Is it just a wild or feral chicken ? Yes - that has confused the subject!!!!!! Never heard of a mountain chicken being a distinct type, but there are several types of "wild chickens" - Red Jungle Fowl ( Gai Pa Muang) which you occassionly see around here (but you can never get near them, they run like hel_l when the see a local - while listening for the bang of a black powder gun). Yes, like most wild fowl of any sort - very tasty - you need to hang them for a few days for the meat to soften. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyshown Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 Februarys LIVESTOCK INSIDE MAGAZINE, available in just about any magazine shop has a 4/5 page article with pics this month on a guy commercially raising these. Get your wife to buy a copy & translate the info for you:)A couple of questions for the forum members;Is Gai Damm the same as Thai Native Chicken? Is Gai Bann the same as Gai Damm? How many clutches a year do the hens lay? does any one have any pictures to show thanks in advance Thanx- I will check out the article- do you remeber how many clutches a year the hens lay? Im sure it is close to my gaichone.... next question is the man succesful Chowna- The silkies meat looks the same but its plumage is not quit what i was thinking.. Thanx again for all the posters Gai Ba yes read jungle fowl is very "flighty" and dificult to catch-- I have never heard of mountain chicken but would guess it is just a wild jungle fowl guyshown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary A Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 The pictures shown on Wikipedia are the same as the ones we had. They were actually quite small and snow white in color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torrenova Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 At the local market here we have "house" chicken and it is really good eating. Not that much meat but just so much better tasting than the farmed rubbish. Relatively expensive as well. We often make a spicy chicken soup with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bina Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 silkies are a decorative chicken as far as i know; we raised them for their beauty : red, black, white, gold are the colouorations... not for eating... our 'black' chickens (baladi - meaning native in arabic) are very difficult to chew!!! but lay eggs every day and a half, dont get eaten up by foxes and such, roost up in trees... the original chickens came from southeast asia; here they are called 'phoenix' ; i had a really good site will have to look for it again with all the breeds etc... i think that gai dam is (the way my husband answered clued me in) is like me saying ' baladi chicken i.e. local coloured hardy chickens that are running around in an open coop or in the yard... to differentiate from the red or white layer or meat chickens which are totally useless if they arent fed and housed in a closed coop. pics anyone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 The guy in the article must be successful to have been featured so strongly, he certainly appears so, having a lovely set up, staff etc. These chickens are basically born to breed, laying a clutch of eggs then brooding them, laying again when the chicks are independant. Like all chickens, if the eggs are removed for artificial incubation, they will lay more as opposed to stopping & brooding. Silkies as Bina says are more of a decorative / exhibition breed, have dark / blueish black pigment , not prolific layers with a tendancy to spend most of their time broody. Februarys LIVESTOCK INSIDE MAGAZINE, available in just about any magazine shop has a 4/5 page article with pics this month on a guy commercially raising these. Get your wife to buy a copy & translate the info for you:)A couple of questions for the forum members;Is Gai Damm the same as Thai Native Chicken? Is Gai Bann the same as Gai Damm? How many clutches a year do the hens lay? does any one have any pictures to show thanks in advance Thanx- I will check out the article- do you remeber how many clutches a year the hens lay? Im sure it is close to my gaichone.... next question is the man succesful Chowna- The silkies meat looks the same but its plumage is not quit what i was thinking.. Thanx again for all the posters Gai Ba yes read jungle fowl is very "flighty" and dificult to catch-- I have never heard of mountain chicken but would guess it is just a wild jungle fowl guyshown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnh101 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Ok lets confuse the question even more.Mountain Chicken ??? Very dark, tasty, succulent meat. Is it just a wild or feral chicken ? Yes - that has confused the subject!!!!!! Never heard of a mountain chicken being a distinct type, but there are several types of "wild chickens" - Red Jungle Fowl ( Gai Pa Muang) which you occassionly see around here (but you can never get near them, they run like hel_l when the see a local - while listening for the bang of a black powder gun). Yes, like most wild fowl of any sort - very tasty - you need to hang them for a few days for the meat to soften. That may be the one because I know my FiL has to lay down traps as they are very difficult to locate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyshown Posted March 1, 2008 Author Share Posted March 1, 2008 Thanks again to all for the information! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mangofarmer Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 A couple of questions for the forum members;Is Gai Damm the same as Thai Native Chicken? Is Gai Bann the same as Gai Damm? How many clutches a year do the hens lay? does any one have any pictures to show thanks in advance I got this: Gai Damm = Black Chicken (Damm=black) Gai Bann = House Chicken (Bann=House), chicken running arround the house; also fighting chickens Gai Paa= Forest Chicken (Paa=Forest), wild chicken, this is probably the native chicken you are looking for. Best regards, mangofarmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klikster Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 (edited) She says that Gai damm is a kind of chicken whose feathers and skin and meat and bone are black...or at least dark colored and that Chinese people make soup from this kind of chicken as medicine. Chownah And that soup is delicious. We used to drive from Chiang Rai to Maesalong for lunch to have "black chicken soup" at the old general's restaurant. I believe the medicine part might be some small herbs they add to the soup .. look sort of like shriveled peanuts. There as a Norwegian guy in C'rai back in the early 90's who was trying to raise them .. not sure how successful he was. Edited March 7, 2008 by klikster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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