Presumptiousness

[kiakaha]

so I'm out and about tonight, with my wife, as usual just keeping to ourselves, not talking a whole lot...but later on in the night, lubricated by a few brews i must admit , some guy(loser /deadbeat) starts talking to us....nice enough placid conversation for 30 mins or so, then he flips and says that every thing I say is a complete lie....apparently I am not 35, I am 20(i have good genes, period)..apparently my wife is not from NZL (despite being born raised educated there and showing the guy her passport ), apparently i have not worked in thailand for 12 years,(my work permits disagree), apparently i can not speak,read thai(despite picking up a local thai rath and reading the headline, much to the bar staffs amusement and his embarassment)........are losers like this really that prevalent in LOS ???

To use an old adage, Dont judge a book by its cover... cos in this day and age you really dont know who that guy/gal just might be !!!

[game4shame]

are losers like this really that prevalent in LOS ???

to be blunt, yes. thailand attracts some complete package tossers.

where did this happen?

[kiakaha]

are losers like this really that prevalent in LOS ???

to be blunt, yes. thailand attracts some complete package tossers.

where did this happen?

BKK

[game4shame]

are losers like this really that prevalent in LOS ???

to be blunt, yes. thailand attracts some complete package tossers.

where did this happen?

BKK

ok, just checking.

if it had been samui I wouldn't have been surprised - serious rise in the ar5ehole count there IMO.

[Fun2Fun]

Jerks are a dime a dozen in Thailand...don't worry be happy..

[suegha]

Jerks are a dime a dozen in Thailand...don't worry be happy..

Isn't that the case everywhere in the world!

[kiakaha]

presumptiousness is a quality i loath.......it is a fundamental precept of stupidity....ooooooo, lets make something up and pretend(in my mind) its real, just like Hansel and Gretel and the 3 little pigs

[spasticated]

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Youv'e ruined my day with your 3 little pigs comment Ive been huffing and puffing all day but I would include religion too!! Dont know the answer invent a God problem solved!!

[tgeezer]

so I'm out and about tonight, with my wife, as usual just keeping to ourselves, not talking a whole lot...but later on in the night, lubricated by a few brews i must admit , some guy(loser /deadbeat) starts talking to us....nice enough placid conversation for 30 mins or so, then he flips and says that every thing I say is a complete lie....apparently I am not 35, I am 20(i have good genes, period)..apparently my wife is not from NZL (despite being born raised educated there and showing the guy her passport ), apparently i have not worked in thailand for 12 years,(my work permits disagree), apparently i can not speak,read thai(despite picking up a local thai rath and reading the headline, much to the bar staffs amusement and his embarassment)........are losers like this really that prevalent in LOS ???

To use an old adage, Dont judge a book by its cover... cos in this day and age you really dont know who that guy/gal just might be !!!

That is very odd, a very similar thing happened to me once a long time ago, I concluded that the chap was mental. Initially I tried to rationalize but as the stupid assertions continued I just agreed with everthiing he said , he just got more outrageous, in the end I just lost patience and left. I wonder if it is the same chap or something in the water.

[PhilHarries]

Like tgeezer I'd presume, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, that the person had some sort of mental disorder like some mild form of Tourettes syndrome that causes him to be controvertial intentionally or otherwise.

Yes there are jerks of all grades and capabilities in Thailand but this sounds like something beyond known boundaries. If he's not deranged in some way he just thinks he can be the center of attraction by winding people up.

Either that or you've met a Troll that has crossed the great divide into the real world.

[Bluelotus]

Thailand has hundreds 9 perhaps 1000's) of westerners living here on psychological disability pensions. Certain sois in Chiang Mai have the echo of a wacko ward around midnight.

[Strap]

I wonder if we met the same people

About 3 weeks ago I was sitting in a local place that I go to often, After about 20 mins or so one of the others guys in the place walks over and started chatting with me, Still to this day I have no idea why he decided to approach me to start with, But anyway he started talking about the bar we were in then about the bar upstairs and a few other places , asked me if I had been to them ect, I said yes as one of them is next door to were I work.

Up until now I had not said anything about myself or any thing about my time in Thailand ect. So a few minutes go by and the owner of the place came over and sat with me and have a drink, the other guy comes back over and starts talking to me again, this time he is starting to tell me that I must be a tourist and new to Thailand if im buying drinks for some thai??&lt;deleted&gt; is this guy thinking?

I really took a moment to respond because I was taking back by his attitude, then before I replied he says His mate is the owner of this place!! I started laughing I couldn't help it, And I asked him if he new what bar he was in? The real owner now started to listen to the conversation and decided to add a few comments ( very politely I must say )So the owner asks him " do you like my bar?" The guy says next "I have been here for 3 months and I know how it all works, Whats the name of your company and My mate is your boss"

I really started to think this guy just wanted to start a fight with someone and he was having a go at anyone who would listen to him..He finally stopped his rant and says to me how long you been here then? I replied "about 6 years".

After a few seconds he says Im just lying about everything to him and I should not be in this bar..

the owner must have heard it because a few seconds later he was being walked out the door ( politely again ) The owner told him " OK you bring back the boss and you can come back" ha ha

Is something being put in the water or what?

Cheers

[zzdocxx]

Yes these guys are either mentally ill, drunk as a skunk, or both.

But sounds like some degree of psych disorder.

They do make for interesting stories.

[realmadrid25]

I love these OP's where the guy has to tell us all of his attributes and how some Thai with a third grade education dared to question him. it always involves the OP hanging around a bar.

It always sounds like they are trying to convince themselves of something...

But seriously dude

Wow, you can read and write Thai! Awesome!

Your wife is from New Zealand and comes from a good family! Sweet!

Is she Thai Chinese?

Rock on Dude! Keep combing it over! You are handsome man we promise.

Edited March 8, 2008 by realmadrid25

[Prakanong]

I think realmadrid has some comprehension problems or maybe his English is not too good as evidenced in his other thread - where does the OP state the guy is a Thai and where does he say the guy had a third rate education?

The only person on this thread with a 3rd grade education is realmadrid

OP - I agree with some of the others - the guy probably had a mental health problem.

That is not to say there are not loads of bullshitters, dreamers and very strange people around - I actually think it was worse pre-97 crash but maybe I just listened to them more then or it was more concentrated as less bar's etc.

The nutter can amuse but sometimes it crosses the line.

PS: I had a strange one last night as well. Having a drink with my pal and his Thai girlfriend at Harry's I mentioned a bar opening party we went to last May or so. They both denied they were there even though it was the guy's pals that invited us and we shared the taxi. I described the night perfectly, who we were with, who was with the GF when she turned up and their argument at the end of the night but no they were not there.

Edited March 8, 2008 by Prakanong

[onethailand]

In my experience this happens when the person has had too much alcohol - I know some people who get drunk on one beer and start speaking absolute nonsense. And these aren't Thais I'm talking about, either.

Happens everywhere. For me, the trick is to nod and not respond. Eventually they either have nothing to argue about, or else the lack of action lulls them to sleep

[Prakanong]

In my experience this happens when the person has had too much alcohol - I know some people who get drunk on one beer and start speaking absolute nonsense. And these aren't Thais I'm talking about, either.

Happens everywhere. For me, the trick is to nod and not respond. Eventually they either have nothing to argue about, or else the lack of action lulls them to sleep

He had two glasses of red wine and his GF one last night though.

PS Re Old Trafford - I had not had a drink - too busy dodging Man U fans with intent to hurt us and I left the game before the last goal to get back to the bus and avoid them

[Maigo6]

Mental illness could well have been the problem with the guy.

I used to live in an English Seaside Town that had many halfway houses for mentally disturbed people.

One guy came up to me and my wife one day and said we had an ugly kid, then he went on to tell me that he was in the SAS and that he worked for the government and would I hit him. A very disturbed person.

One night I was in a Pub with some of my Scouser mates and in walked this same guy, I felt sorry for the guy and tried to warn him stay quiet. He didn't and ended up getting a good hiding by the lads.

It must be terrible to be that disturbed.

[BigSnake]

Best to keep to yourself(you, wife and friends), by all mean give the local friendly a wide wide berth if they have had there BREW. We have had our share of what you and your wife encounter, so trust me it's best to just smile and move on.

[Prakanong]

Mental illness could well have been the problem with the guy.

I used to live in an English Seaside Town that had many halfway houses for mentally disturbed people.

One guy came up to me and my wife one day and said we had an ugly kid, then he went on to tell me that he was in the SAS and that he worked for the government and would I hit him. A very disturbed person.

One night I was in a Pub with some of my Scouser mates and in walked this same guy, I felt sorry for the guy and tried to warn him stay quiet. He didn't and ended up getting a good hiding by the lads.

It must be terrible to be that disturbed.

It was not Margate was it - so many nutters in that town - Care in the Community so all the London Boroughs put them down there where its cheaper

It is Bangkok by far though where I have met the most ex-SAS men

[Briggsy]

The OP forgot to racially profile the "nutter"! What kind of post is that!

Oh yeah and don't forget all the guys who are here on 'Company' business, fitting in a few beers down the Pong in between bouts of wetwork. Met a few of them.

[Maigo6]

It was not Margate was it - so many nutters in that town - Care in the Community so all the London Boroughs put them down there where its cheaper

St Leonards, Hastings.

[howtoescape]

Some of these far out there people you meet in LOS are good to talk to, for a beer or 2 anyway, always good to hear another mans point of view no matter how mad they are.

So long as they dont get aggressive or try to take liberties.

[tattoodrob]

so I'm out and about tonight, with my wife, as usual just keeping to ourselves, not talking a whole lot...but later on in the night, lubricated by a few brews i must admit , some guy(loser /deadbeat) starts talking to us....nice enough placid conversation for 30 mins or so, then he flips and says that every thing I say is a complete lie....apparently I am not 35, I am 20(i have good genes, period)..apparently my wife is not from NZL (despite being born raised educated there and showing the guy her passport ), apparently i have not worked in thailand for 12 years,(my work permits disagree), apparently i can not speak,read thai(despite picking up a local thai rath and reading the headline, much to the bar staffs amusement and his embarassment)........are losers like this really that prevalent in LOS ???

To use an old adage, Dont judge a book by its cover... cos in this day and age you really dont know who that guy/gal just might be !!!

should have smacked him one right in the chops........see if he believes that happened

[Thai at Heart]

so I'm out and about tonight, with my wife, as usual just keeping to ourselves, not talking a whole lot...but later on in the night, lubricated by a few brews i must admit , some guy(loser /deadbeat) starts talking to us....nice enough placid conversation for 30 mins or so, then he flips and says that every thing I say is a complete lie....apparently I am not 35, I am 20(i have good genes, period)..apparently my wife is not from NZL (despite being born raised educated there and showing the guy her passport ), apparently i have not worked in thailand for 12 years,(my work permits disagree), apparently i can not speak,read thai(despite picking up a local thai rath and reading the headline, much to the bar staffs amusement and his embarassment)........are losers like this really that prevalent in LOS ???

To use an old adage, Dont judge a book by its cover... cos in this day and age you really dont know who that guy/gal just might be !!!

should have smacked him one right in the chops........see if he believes that happened

Speaking softly "Oi, can I have a beer"

Idiot : "Hey you should show some respect in this country"

Softly spoken back " No mate she is called Oi"

[tattoodrob]

so I'm out and about tonight, with my wife, as usual just keeping to ourselves, not talking a whole lot...but later on in the night, lubricated by a few brews i must admit , some guy(loser /deadbeat) starts talking to us....nice enough placid conversation for 30 mins or so, then he flips and says that every thing I say is a complete lie....apparently I am not 35, I am 20(i have good genes, period)..apparently my wife is not from NZL (despite being born raised educated there and showing the guy her passport ), apparently i have not worked in thailand for 12 years,(my work permits disagree), apparently i can not speak,read thai(despite picking up a local thai rath and reading the headline, much to the bar staffs amusement and his embarassment)........are losers like this really that prevalent in LOS ???

To use an old adage, Dont judge a book by its cover... cos in this day and age you really dont know who that guy/gal just might be !!!

should have smacked him one right in the chops........see if he believes that happened

Speaking softly "Oi, can I have a beer"

Idiot : "Hey you should show some respect in this country"

Softly spoken back " No mate she is called Oi"

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[ignoramus]

Here I come again...entering late as usual. I've rarely hat any joy from anyone who approached me in a watering hole. There was a female once, but I got and STD from her, so no joy there. I never approach strangers in watering holes. I might approach a pretty female in the street if she had just dropped money, but this would not be entirely out of honesty.

[ade100]

So the OP title reads: "Presumptiousness, is LOS the most cynical land on earth or what"

From a statistical point of view, a story about one nutter in a pub is probably not a significant sample to allow us the infer the conclusion "is LOS the most cynical land on earth or what"