What's Haoppening?

[frond]

I had a disturbing talk with my gf last night in regards to the recent violence against foreigners. She told me that there was an article published in a Thai magazine (she couldn’t recall the name) in April or May that was about Thai women preferring foreign men and no longer wanting to be with Thai men. The lyrics to a few look thung songs have also illustrated the sad plight of the Thai man whose wife leaves him for a foreigner (the lyricists excuse was that it was “for money”). A recent TV talk show featured a Thai woman who left her abusive husband for an Englishman and had to endure being stalked and threatened by the ex-husband until the police intervened (with the payoff to do so apparently).

As far as I know the policeman implicated in the murder of the British tourists in Kanchanaburi is still “at large” (i.e. in police protection). The killer of the people found in Khao Yai has not yet been caught.

I was told last night that “Naughty Nigel,” infamous local porn star featured on various Asian sex websites, was knifed on Tuesday night—sliced upwards from his groin to his chest—in Klong Toei. Who knows what the motive for that was, eh?

When will this violence stop against foreigners? Is it “us” or are we just scapegoats and easy targets for drunk, frustrated Thai men who have no other outlet for their anger? Is killing a farang, according to the law and the people who live under its “rule,” like killing an animal; no one will be punished for murdering a lower, expendable life, right? The lack of personal responsibility and self-awareness is grossly lacking. It’s like some amoral free-for-all fueled by poverty, ignorance, nationalism, and bigotry--but then blamed on "Western Culture." The appearance of a tolerant, happy-go-lucky Thai society is fading to show the seething cauldron beneath it. How do these people who beat or kill foreigners feel when their deed is done? Kill a farang and you’ll be the local hero??

My gf’s mother is frightened for us whenever we go upcountry (which is rarely). She thinks that I’ll be murdered and my gf raped and murdered! Why? Because I’m a foreigner with a Thai woman!

Ok, much like anywhere else, granted, but most of “us” would’ve thought otherwise considering the image Thailand has always projected and the feeling I get from Thai people I’m close to.

I’m certain that expats who have been here for 10-20 years would say that this anti-foreigner violence goes in waves, but is it worse now than ever before?

Looking back at this thread I wonder if I should even post it…I hope it doesn’t make me appear to be an “ungrateful, disrespectful farang who doesn’t understand Thai culture and should leave if he doesn’t like what he experiences.” It’s just that this violence reminds me of the mindlessness of violence in the West (but there at least if you're caught you'll be severly punished). I was hoping this place wouldn’t be heading in that same direction. In four years living here this is the first time I’ve been afraid for my (and my gf”s) life.

[The Gentleman Scamp]

Thai's are known for their toleraance as well as their smiles.

However, an uprise against the foreign man who can give the Thai girl what she wants in bed as well as at the ATM?

It's not impossible but I would seriously doubt it.

There will always be one or two jealous crazy Thai men out there who don't care what they do to seek revenge and I for one would not get involved with a Thai who was married or even recently seperated from a Thai man.

Or of course any man for that matter.

[IamMaiC]

That guy Nigel got what he deserved I've seen those freaking websites and the way he treats the girls no wonder he got that treatment long time coming in my opinion maybe the camera man will be next

He's british also That's an example of a brit? I hope not Please I really hope not.

[OldAsiaHand]

I was told last night that “Naughty Nigel,” infamous local porn star featured on various Asian sex websites, was knifed on Tuesday night—sliced upwards from his groin to his chest—in Klong Toei.

It makes a great rumor, I suppose, but does anyone actually have any first hand information as to whether or not this is true?

[IamMaiC]

Are you worried for him?? He's probably got AIDS anyway with all the girls he shags like to old saying " live by the sword die by the sword"

[Simbo]

Sounds right to me, all the Thai girls I have spoken to, mostly bar girls, have said they left their husbands because they were butterflies and did not take good care moneywise. Therefore, it's understandable, Thai men must get frustrated, knowing they cannot compete with farangs on the money front. no one would like it if their wive went of with someone just for money. Let's face it, do you think Thai women would look twice at farangs if we had none,

Is there such a thing as crime of passion in Thailand? Can Thais get a lighter sentence if they kill a farang, who they think has stolen their wife?

A worrying thought for some.

[IamMaiC]

I had a disturbing talk with my gf last night in regards to the recent violence against foreigners. She told me that there was an article published in a Thai magazine (she couldn’t recall the name) in April or May that was about Thai women preferring foreign men and no longer wanting to be with Thai men. The lyrics to a few look thung songs have also illustrated the sad plight of the Thai man whose wife leaves him for a foreigner (the lyricists excuse was that it was “for money”). A recent TV talk show featured a Thai woman who left her abusive husband for an Englishman and had to endure being stalked and threatened by the ex-husband until the police intervened (with the payoff to do so apparently).

As far as I know the policeman implicated in the murder of the British tourists in Kanchanaburi is still “at large” (i.e. in police protection). The killer of the people found in Khao Yai has not yet been caught.

I was told last night that “Naughty Nigel,” infamous local porn star featured on various Asian sex websites, was knifed on Tuesday night—sliced upwards from his groin to his chest—in Klong Toei. Who knows what the motive for that was, eh?

When will this violence stop against foreigners? Is it “us” or are we just scapegoats and easy targets for drunk, frustrated Thai men who have no other outlet for their anger? Is killing a farang, according to the law and the people who live under its “rule,” like killing an animal; no one will be punished for murdering a lower, expendable life, right? The lack of personal responsibility and self-awareness is grossly lacking. It’s like some amoral free-for-all fueled by poverty, ignorance, nationalism, and bigotry--but then blamed on "Western Culture." The appearance of a tolerant, happy-go-lucky Thai society is fading to show the seething cauldron beneath it. How do these people who beat or kill foreigners feel when their deed is done? Kill a farang and you’ll be the local hero??

My gf’s mother is frightened for us whenever we go upcountry (which is rarely). She thinks that I’ll be murdered and my gf raped and murdered! Why? Because I’m a foreigner with a Thai woman!

Ok, much like anywhere else, granted, but most of “us” would’ve thought otherwise considering the image Thailand has always projected and the feeling I get from Thai people I’m close to.

I’m certain that expats who have been here for 10-20 years would say that this anti-foreigner violence goes in waves, but is it worse now than ever before?

Looking back at this thread I wonder if I should even post it…I hope it doesn’t make me appear to be an “ungrateful, disrespectful farang who doesn’t understand Thai culture and should leave if he doesn’t like what he experiences.” It’s just that this violence reminds me of the mindlessness of violence in the West (but there at least if you're caught you'll be severly punished). I was hoping this place wouldn’t be heading in that same direction. In four years living here this is the first time I’ve been afraid for my (and my gf”s) life.

I had a Talk with my wife the other day and I asked about her friend she is a mia noi to a thai man, Second wife or girlfriend i think is the meaning of the thai. well she has not heard from her in quite some time and she told me in the past that her husband had "boxing her" Hit her. She is a lovely girl and in all actuality i got upset but didn't let my wife know I told my wife i never "Boxing you' she said i know because you farang man Actually i am half thai and half farang.

Maybe because Thai women know Thai men all to well Most I have seen drink and smoke and some i've seen gamble very much. I grew up in the states and of course we have the same here No doubt But There are some farang men that want a monogamous relationship including myself i am not saying I am perfect. But I do just want my wife I only think of her and just want to be with her I want to have a familiy soon also.

I have seen many personal websites for thai women looking for farang husbands actually seen one that showed results I mean the two people eventually getting married. I ask myself what are these girls paying for their ad to be on a website Of course some may not be legit. Just my thoughts.

[IamMaiC]

  Sounds right to me, all the Thai girls I have spoken to, mostly bar girls, have said they left their husbands because they were butterflies and did not take good care moneywise. Therefore, it's understandable, Thai men must get frustrated, knowing they cannot compete with farangs on the money front. no one would like it if their wive went of with someone just for money. Let's face it, do you think Thai women would look twice at farangs if we had none,

  Is there such a thing as crime of passion in Thailand? Can Thais get a lighter sentence if they kill a farang, who they think has stolen their wife?

A worrying thought for some.

There is another thing that you didn't include simbo The Farang can take her away from thailand to a much better life. And then if she wants she has the oppurtunity to advance her life. Go to School, also she can help her family members. Mother and Father can come to the new country if they want.

I have heard the same Thai men like to butterfly not all but many, But can you blame them I read somewhere Thailand has the most beautiful women of all the asian countries. Like kids in a candy store

[DJ Pat]

Maybe it's a new trend, and if it is, then it'll be out of fashion in two months.

[Vit77]

Maybe it's a new trend, and if it is, then it'll be out of fashion in two months.

I'll be first time in Thailand in one week. So, I need to be alive next two months.. and then everything will be OK?

[Ajarn]

I’m certain that expats who have been here for 10-20 years would say that this anti-foreigner violence goes in waves, but is it worse now than ever before?

You shouldn't feel certain about that.

Hey, Thailand is becoming more and more violent, just like the rest of the world. What the ###### did you expect- Shangrila?

I was married to a Thai women for 7 seven years. Had one teenager make a brave comment once- which he sincerely regretted and apologized for immediately after our chat about about it. Never had any other problems...I'm treated with respect wherever I go, mostly because I am a respectful person, too, I believe. I can easily say that I've been treated better, generally, by Thais than by those in 'my' American society...

If you think of them as animals, you're more likely to treat them as animals, and that usually invites problems of one kind or another.

I generally believe that if you don't make problems, problems are unlikely to occur for you. Of course, there are places and situations here where that might not always be a safe bet.

Just keep your own head on straight to begin with, and always cover your ass as best you can

[The Gentleman Scamp]

Nigel.

Strange name for a porn star.

[IamMaiC]

Scamp That's his name I have seen the site(well one of many) and like i said i hope he don't represent all brits in Thailand. He looks like an old man maybe early or late 50's with so many young girls Sad.

[chonabot]

That guy Nigel got what he deserved    I've seen those freaking websites and the way he treats the girls  no wonder he got that treatment  long time coming in my opinion  maybe the camera man will be next 

He's british also  That's an example of a brit?  I hope not  Please  I really hope not. 

A dumb statement , I'm sure you can figure out the answer to that rhetorical outburst?

[IamMaiC]

That guy Nigel got what he deserved    I've seen those freaking websites and the way he treats the girls   no wonder he got that treatment   long time coming in my opinion   maybe the camera man will be next  

He's british also   That's an example of a brit?   I hope not  Please  I really hope not.  

A dumb statement , I'm sure you can figure out the answer to that rhetorical outburst?

Why is it a dumb statement?? Have you seen the websites he is on I understand they are catering to people that go to thailand but maybe Mr nigel pissed someone off he shouldn't have we don't even know if this has happend or not. I just hope Brits are not like him the ones in Thailand i mean.

[stroll]

have heard the same Thai men like to butterfly not all but many, But can you blame them I read somewhere Thailand has the most beautiful women of all the asian countries. smile.gif Like kids in a candy store

Sounds like you're getting yourself excited for a holiday over here without the wife? Not quite so angry any more with farang sex tourists, perhaps?

[IamMaiC]

have heard the same Thai men like to butterfly not all but many, But can you blame them I read somewhere Thailand has the most beautiful women of all the asian countries. smile.gif Like kids in a candy store

Sounds like you're getting yourself excited for a holiday over here without the wife? Not quite so angry any more with farang sex tourists, perhaps?

Stroll I been to Thailand plenty of times to jump into that candy store and have some to my hearts content but I never did I am not angry at sex tourists hey whatever floats your boat. Plus I do love my wife Stroll. I am a calm person now remember

[IamMaiC]

have heard the same Thai men like to butterfly not all but many, But can you blame them I read somewhere Thailand has the most beautiful women of all the asian countries. smile.gif Like kids in a candy store

Sounds like you're getting yourself excited for a holiday over here without the wife? Not quite so angry any more with farang sex tourists, perhaps?

Am I coming across as if i want a holiday away from the wife??

[chonabot]

That guy Nigel got what he deserved    I've seen those freaking websites and the way he treats the girls   no wonder he got that treatment   long time coming in my opinion   maybe the camera man will be next  

He's british also   That's an example of a brit?   I hope not  Please  I really hope not.  

A dumb statement , I'm sure you can figure out the answer to that rhetorical outburst?

Why is it a dumb statement?? Have you seen the websites he is on I understand they are catering to people that go to thailand but maybe Mr nigel pissed someone off he shouldn't have we don't even know if this has happend or not. I just hope Brits are not like him the ones in Thailand i mean.

I repeat, it's a dumb statement asking if someone of his dubious standards is indicitive of Brits abroad.

If you can't figure out the lack of integrity in that statement , I wish you luck , you may need it in future.

[chonabot]

Scamp That's his name  I have seen the site(well one of many)  and like i said i hope he don't represent all brits in Thailand.    He looks like an old man  maybe early or late 50's  with so many young girls  Sad.

How can you even think that some sad old pornstar represents all Brits in Thailand?

A laughable statement , fit for a ten year old at best , even more so that you can find any fault in it on reflection.

Here's a poser for you , does Michael Jackson represent all the black people in USA?

A question of similar imbecilic notions , I will read your , usually decent , posts with a more sceptical eye in future.

Gave me a laugh though I suppose !

[IamMaiC]

Scamp That's his name   I have seen the site(well one of many)  and like i said i hope he don't represent all brits in Thailand.    He looks like an old man  maybe early or late 50's  with so many young girls  Sad.

How can you even think that some sad old pornstar represents all Brits in Thailand?

A laughable statement , fit for a ten year old at best , even more so that you can find any fault in it on reflection.

Here's a poser for you , does Michael Jackson represent all the black people in USA?

A question of similar imbecilic notions , I will read your , usually decent , posts with a more sceptical eye in future.

Gave me a laugh though I suppose !

that's all i said i hope he is not a representative of brits in Thailand Becasue i know brits are better that him

OK i will say this I just hope brits don't act like he does even if they visit bargirls is that better?

Micheal Jackson is not black or have you not seen him resently ?

[BlueTa]

Micheal Jackson is not black or have you not seen him recently ?

He's got a point here, Chon, I have to say.

[chonabot]

I'm having a bad day , no offense meant , Michael Jackson is having a bad year

[IamMaiC]

I'm having a bad day , no offense meant , Michael Jackson is having a bad year

No offense taken I'm a very calm man Chon Use meditation everyday and some singha beer helps also.

[BlueTa]

No offense taken I'm a very calm man Chon Use meditation everyday and some singha beer helps also.

You sure do, I mean the Singha beer part...

[merlin1]

That guy Nigel got what he deserved    I've seen those freaking websites and the way he treats the girls  no wonder he got that treatment  long time coming in my opinion  maybe the camera man will be next 

So Nigel's the 50 something bald guy all over the web? Always wondered about that guy, like he'd lost it and went to Asia to swim into the dark depths. Jeez. That's a story waiting to be told. Would like to hear what is said at his funeral.

Maybe this will boost his site hits numbers. The Doors sold more records after Jim Morrison died than when he was alive.

[Limbo]

That guy Nigel got what he deserved 

Who told you?

[Limbo]

Mr. IamMaiC,

I respect you for openly admitting that you 'look dirty pictures'.

Do you like to see only the male models killed or also the women?

In the first case you might suffer of a strange kind of 'penis envy', which might be a sign that you were a lesbian in your former life (or going to be one in your next life).

[Narachon]

That guy Nigel got what he deserved    I've seen those freaking websites and the way he treats the girls  no wonder he got that treatment  long time coming in my opinion  maybe the camera man will be next 

So Nigel's the 50 something bald guy all over the web? Always wondered about that guy, like he'd lost it and went to Asia to swim into the dark depths. Jeez. That's a story waiting to be told. Would like to hear what is said at his funeral.

Maybe this will boost his site hits numbers. The Doors sold more records after Jim Morrison died than when he was alive.

So THAT guy is Nigel???

I admit I've also been to those same naughty Thai girl websites myself, but didn't know any of the male actors names....I really wasn't paying attention to them

So is he really dead? I understand why he got gutted..... Imagine you are a Thai guy, and told that your girlfriend is having sex with a big baldheaded Farang guy for all the world to see....I guess that would be the ultimate loss of face, I guess....

Hmmm....I wonder, if you are given a choice, what would you do..... You can either live a long life with no sex, or have as much sex as you want with plenty of hot women, only that someday you will be gutted and killed by a jealous boyfriend.....Which would you choose?

I choose the former... There is always the Thai porn sites.....

[Narachon]

Scamp That's his name  I have seen the site(well one of many)  and like i said i hope he don't represent all brits in Thailand.    He looks like an old man  maybe early or late 50's  with so many young girls  Sad.

How can you even think that some sad old pornstar represents all Brits in Thailand?

A laughable statement , fit for a ten year old at best , even more so that you can find any fault in it on reflection.

Here's a poser for you , does Michael Jackson represent all the black people in USA?

*Ehem*