my take on black and white.

still searching for that black and white taste.

taken at Train park at chatuchak, mo chit.

thanks.

A bit dark

Agree "Fantasteak" and also much too contrasty. If you remember with your "winged wonder" shot this was also a problem.

What you have here is overexposed highlights and blocked up shadows. I'm sure this is the result of your manipulation as a D80 at 200 asa would invariably produce a full tonal range.

It appears to me that you are converting to grey scale when seeking monotone.

May I suggest you use the mode of "de-saturating" the colour image and then adjust the contrast/brightness and black point. Using this method you will still have the "use" of the colour controls to tweak the tones.

Here's a link that you might find useful to understand the above:-

http://lightroom-news.com/2007/08/24/tips-...te-conversions/

It's academic whether or not you use Lightroom - the same principles apply.

Hope this helps.

Edited April 6, 200818 yr by The Vulcan

Agree "Fantasteak" and also much too contrasty. If you remember with your "winged wonder" shot this was also a problem.

What you have here is overexposed highlights and blocked up shadows. I'm sure this is the result of your manipulation as a D80 at 200 asa would invariably produce a full tonal range.

It appears to me that you are converting to grey scale when seeking monotone.

May I suggest you use the mode of "de-saturating" the colour image and then adjust the contrast/brightness and black point. Using this method you will still have the "use" of the colour controls to tweak the tones.

Here's a link that you might find useful to understand the above:-

http://lightroom-news.com/2007/08/24/tips-...te-conversions/

It's academic whether or not you use Lightroom - the same principles apply.

Hope this helps.

greetings hello The Vulcan,

wow thank you for the information.

yeah i converted from colored to greyscale method.

i would try the desaturate and hopefully get better results.

thanks for the link.

@fantasteak, it really is a bit dark.

thanks for the direction.

nice photo, that car in front of it could have been else where, but very good!

chris