Dual Citizenship

[bikkies]

My wife is due to have another baby this time in Australia.My question is how to we go about getting Thai citizenship/passport to go with the the Australian citizenship/passport.Has anyone else had a similar experience.

Mike

[Maestro]

1. With the regular birth certificate you get from the competent Australian authority, register the child’s birth with the consular section of the Thai embassy.

2. Apply for the Thai passport at the consular section of the Thai embassy.

The consular section of the Thai embassy will tell you what documents they need in addition to the child’s birth certificate.

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Maestro

[DC1066]

Just a quick question - related, but slightly off topic , so apologies Bikkies - I've been told that Thailand doesn't allow 'dual nationality' for its citizens.

Is this correct, or just another of those false rumours. We are just about to apply for my wife's ILR and I'm thinking further down the line.

I know many Thai people have 2 passports, but don't know if this is done officially, or without informing theThai authorities.

[samran]

totally legal. The embassy wouldn't let you apply if it were any way illegal to have more than one passport.

I've got two passports, Australian and Thai. The embassy has been very helpful to me in the past on all of this stuff.

[Mossfinn]

- I've been told that Thailand doesn't allow 'dual nationality' for its citizens.

In depth clarification Here

Moss

[bikkies]

1. With the regular birth certificate you get from the competent Australian authority, register the child's birth with the consular section of the Thai embassy.

2. Apply for the Thai passport at the consular section of the Thai embassy.

The consular section of the Thai embassy will tell you what documents they need in addition to the child's birth certificate.

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Maestro

Thanks Maestro

I figure the documents would be along the lines of House book/registeration.

Mike

[DCasper]

1. With the regular birth certificate you get from the competent Australian authority, register the child's birth with the consular section of the Thai embassy.

2. Apply for the Thai passport at the consular section of the Thai embassy.

The consular section of the Thai embassy will tell you what documents they need in addition to the child's birth certificate.

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Maestro

Thanks Maestro

I figure the documents would be along the lines of House book/registeration.

Mike

My Wife tried to get our son put in her family book. No luck were told would have to wait 10 to 20 days.

We done all the paper work we could do in WA.

Be prepared to pay a donation, to get some paperwork done. We will try again next year. The wife is not to wear her gold next time.

[samran]

1. With the regular birth certificate you get from the competent Australian authority, register the child's birth with the consular section of the Thai embassy.

2. Apply for the Thai passport at the consular section of the Thai embassy.

The consular section of the Thai embassy will tell you what documents they need in addition to the child's birth certificate.

--

Maestro

Thanks Maestro

I figure the documents would be along the lines of House book/registeration.

Mike

My Wife tried to get our son put in her family book. No luck were told would have to wait 10 to 20 days.

We done all the paper work we could do in WA.

Be prepared to pay a donation, to get some paperwork done. We will try again next year. The wife is not to wear her gold next time.

bugger that they wanted the donation, but, if I may suggest, it is better to keep your son out of the house book until you do move full time to LOS so that he doesn't get called up to Military service.

I'm from Melbourne but my mother is from Thailand and moved to OZ in 1970.

It was possible for me to get my Thai birth certifcate and passport via the Thai embassy in Canberra for years, on the strength of my thai BC proving I was Thai. I of course used the Thai PP to travel to and from thailand, letting me remain there for extended periods of time.

It wasn't till I was 30 that my wife and I decided to move here full time, at which point I got my name put on the house book and got my ID card. It did take a couple of trips to the Ampur, just to check out the requirements. No money changed hands, but a couple boxes of chocolates and tim tams sure greased the wheels. Essentially though, they will need your sons Thai BC and Thai passport (issued in Canberra), mums ID card a copy of dads passport.

The key thing to remember is that after 30, your son is automatically disqualified from being drafted into the army. If he is off the tabiee baan, and not resident in Thailand no call up letter will be sent. If he chooses to return to Thailand at some point in the future, it is worth bearing these facts in mind.

[bikkies]

1. With the regular birth certificate you get from the competent Australian authority, register the child's birth with the consular section of the Thai embassy.

2. Apply for the Thai passport at the consular section of the Thai embassy.

The consular section of the Thai embassy will tell you what documents they need in addition to the child's birth certificate.

--

Maestro

Thanks Maestro

I figure the documents would be along the lines of House book/registeration.

Mike

My Wife tried to get our son put in her family book. No luck were told would have to wait 10 to 20 days.

We done all the paper work we could do in WA.

Be prepared to pay a donation, to get some paperwork done. We will try again next year. The wife is not to wear her gold next time.

I fully expect to pay "token fees" in Thailand but surely not here in Perth or anywhere else in Australia for that matter.

So what you are saying is that if I take our new borns(female,so the ultra sounds say anyway) aussie birth certificate to the Thai consulate here in Perth and ask for a Thai birth certificate and passport they will have me wait a few weeks then process it.Sorry but I am just a little confused.

[samran]

1. With the regular birth certificate you get from the competent Australian authority, register the child's birth with the consular section of the Thai embassy.

2. Apply for the Thai passport at the consular section of the Thai embassy.

The consular section of the Thai embassy will tell you what documents they need in addition to the child's birth certificate.

--

Maestro

Thanks Maestro

I figure the documents would be along the lines of House book/registeration.

Mike

My Wife tried to get our son put in her family book. No luck were told would have to wait 10 to 20 days.

We done all the paper work we could do in WA.

Be prepared to pay a donation, to get some paperwork done. We will try again next year. The wife is not to wear her gold next time.

I fully expect to pay "token fees" in Thailand but surely not here in Perth or anywhere else in Australia for that matter.

So what you are saying is that if I take our new borns(female,so the ultra sounds say anyway) aussie birth certificate to the Thai consulate here in Perth and ask for a Thai birth certificate and passport they will have me wait a few weeks then process it.Sorry but I am just a little confused.

You won't have to pay anything but the official fees in Australia for a Thai Birth Certificate and passport (nor in Thailand for that matter).

Anyhoo, what you can do through the consulate in perth depends on what it is authorised to do.

I highly suspect that you'll have to deal directly with the Thai embassy in Canberra via phone and mail - at least for the birth certificate. The new Thai "e-passports" require a digital photo digital finger print to be taken, so it requires you to be there in person to apply for it.

Now, the birth certificate is pretty straighforward to get and the details of what you need have been posted. Remeber the birth certificate is important as it is the first and most important document that will be your childs proof of entitlement to Thai citizenship for the rest of his/her life. If it isn't available through the consulate in perth, I beleive you can apply for it via mail to the embassy in Canberra.

The passport as mentioned, requires you, wife and child to be there in person. As Perth doesn't have the equipment, it can mean a trip to Canberra or Sydney to get the passport done. The other way is to ask the embassy in canberra when the 'mobile passport unit' is coming out to Perth, at which point you can apply for the passport there.

The benefit of getting a passport in Australia is that it only requires a Thai birth certificate as proof of evidence to issue the passport.

If you apply for the pasport in Thailand, you first have to put your child on the tabieen baan (house book) which requires a trip or two to the ampur (depending on how well they know the rules) and issuing your child with a Thai ID number. You then require a seperate trip to the passport office to get the passport issued.

[BAZZAT]

My Daughter has 2 passports she is nearly 7, UK & Thai what i would say is get the Thai passport 1st but as for entering Thailand from the uk there has never been a problem in on here thai passport back home on her UK. Last year we renewed both to the new E passport style with no problems at all.

[bkk_mike]

It's definitely simpler if all of you can get to the embassy for the passport application, but you can do a declaration if you can't go at the same time. (It would need to be notarised, probably at a consulate. The embassy would be able to send you a copy of the form)

[huahin]

totally legal. The embassy wouldn't let you apply if it were any way illegal to have more than one passport.

I've got two passports, Australian and Thai. The embassy has been very helpful to me in the past on all of this stuff.

Samran you seem to have the "bull by the horns" on dual nationalality.

I wonder if you can help me out a bit further regarding the 2 passport thing. My wife (Thai) has to go home later this year for a extended period and I've told her that she can leave on one PP and enter Thailand on her new digital PP. However, being a typical Thai female, she insists on asking her Thai girl friends and getting conflicting answers. Is there something written in Thai on official letter head that she can read herself and help put her on the straight and narrow and then I can stop tearing my hair out. Also in Thai all those official sections relating to farangs having to report every 90 days/24hrs at residence etc.

Much appriciated if you can help me out.

[samran]

totally legal. The embassy wouldn't let you apply if it were any way illegal to have more than one passport.

I've got two passports, Australian and Thai. The embassy has been very helpful to me in the past on all of this stuff.

Samran you seem to have the "bull by the horns" on dual nationalality.

I wonder if you can help me out a bit further regarding the 2 passport thing. My wife (Thai) has to go home later this year for a extended period and I've told her that she can leave on one PP and enter Thailand on her new digital PP. However, being a typical Thai female, she insists on asking her Thai girl friends and getting conflicting answers. Is there something written in Thai on official letter head that she can read herself and help put her on the straight and narrow and then I can stop tearing my hair out. Also in Thai all those official sections relating to farangs having to report every 90 days/24hrs at residence etc.

Much appriciated if you can help me out.

This is a good start

http://www.phuketgazette.net/issuesanswers...ails.asp?id=694

Not much I can say, she leaves where she is now (OZ?) on the australian passport and enters Thailand on the thai passport. If she's got a new e-passport issued outside of Thailand she should take the old Thai passport with her and hand them both in when she arrives, just to show Thai immigratoin she was stamped out on her old one.

My mother from BKK but has lived in OZ for over 40 years, and does the passport swap a couple of times a year (like me).

Don't forget to remind her (nicely) that if she enters Thailand on her OZ PP, she is subject to Thai immigratoin rules, and if she overstays, is liable for a max fine of 20,000 baht.

[bikkies]

1. With the regular birth certificate you get from the competent Australian authority, register the child's birth with the consular section of the Thai embassy.

2. Apply for the Thai passport at the consular section of the Thai embassy.

The consular section of the Thai embassy will tell you what documents they need in addition to the child's birth certificate.

--

Maestro

Thanks Maestro

I figure the documents would be along the lines of House book/registeration.

Mike

My Wife tried to get our son put in her family book. No luck were told would have to wait 10 to 20 days.

We done all the paper work we could do in WA.

Be prepared to pay a donation, to get some paperwork done. We will try again next year. The wife is not to wear her gold next time.

I fully expect to pay "token fees" in Thailand but surely not here in Perth or anywhere else in Australia for that matter.

So what you are saying is that if I take our new borns(female,so the ultra sounds say anyway) aussie birth certificate to the Thai consulate here in Perth and ask for a Thai birth certificate and passport they will have me wait a few weeks then process it.Sorry but I am just a little confused.

You won't have to pay anything but the official fees in Australia for a Thai Birth Certificate and passport (nor in Thailand for that matter).

Anyhoo, what you can do through the consulate in perth depends on what it is authorised to do.

I highly suspect that you'll have to deal directly with the Thai embassy in Canberra via phone and mail - at least for the birth certificate. The new Thai "e-passports" require a digital photo digital finger print to be taken, so it requires you to be there in person to apply for it.

Now, the birth certificate is pretty straighforward to get and the details of what you need have been posted. Remeber the birth certificate is important as it is the first and most important document that will be your childs proof of entitlement to Thai citizenship for the rest of his/her life. If it isn't available through the consulate in perth, I beleive you can apply for it via mail to the embassy in Canberra.

The passport as mentioned, requires you, wife and child to be there in person. As Perth doesn't have the equipment, it can mean a trip to Canberra or Sydney to get the passport done. The other way is to ask the embassy in canberra when the 'mobile passport unit' is coming out to Perth, at which point you can apply for the passport there.

The benefit of getting a passport in Australia is that it only requires a Thai birth certificate as proof of evidence to issue the passport.

If you apply for the pasport in Thailand, you first have to put your child on the tabieen baan (house book) which requires a trip or two to the ampur (depending on how well they know the rules) and issuing your child with a Thai ID number. You then require a seperate trip to the passport office to get the passport issued.

Thank you all for your help it is much appreciated.We are still a little way off,the baby is not due till October so I am still trying to gather all the facts.If need be we will go to Canberra though I would prefer not too.