Do You Know Which Kind Of Snake Is This ?

[Amonik]

Hello,

It got me by surprise in my way to do the laundry.....

It's small but I guess it's poisonous as its head has triangular shape.

I live in Pattaya. I'm scared because I have a 2-yrs. old boy who loves to be outside.

Do you know what kind of snake is ?

Thanks for your help !

[pumpuiman]

As best I can guess is a "Chain viper"

These snakes are easily irritated and bite very quickly. The long fangs which penetrate deep into the tissue, together with the strong poison and the aggression of the snake, make it one of the most dangerous poisonous snakes in Thailand.

Link to snake site

I believe juvenile snakes exhibit color differences from adults...you may have a baby there (yikes) but the markings look like a chain viper.

Edited May 16, 2008 by pumpuiman

[sweetchariot]

As best I can guess is a "Chain viper"

These snakes are easily irritated and bite very quickly. The long fangs which penetrate deep into the tissue, together with the strong poison and the aggression of the snake, make it one of the most dangerous poisonous snakes in Thailand.

Link to snake site

Eeek!

We had one of these in our garden, and the missus said not to kill it. After 1/2 an hour of trying to catch the bugger, and it trying to bite me, I eventually gave up and asked a Thai neighbour to come and look. He took one look at it and bashed it's head in with a big stick - now I know why!

[Amonik]

Thank you so much for your fast reply and the link !

I was google snakes in Thailand but couldn't find anything....

My husband manage to put the snake in a pail and he threw it away to an empty land.

I was very lucky because I didn't see the snake until I was 10 cm away.

Thanks...

[Amonik]

Hello,

It got me by surprise in my way to do the laundry.....

It's small but I guess it's poisonous as its head has triangular shape.

I live in Pattaya. I'm scared because I have a 2-yrs. old boy who loves to be outside.

Do you know what kind of snake is ?

Thanks for your help !

Well, with your help about names, I was searching through the net and found a site where it shows a picture of a "Malayan Pit Viper", very similar to the one I have found at home. Would you agree ?

Link: http://www.wilderness-survival.net/snakes-7.php

[pumpuiman]

I agree. And still deadly.

Calloselasma rhodostoma (Malayan Pit Viper)

Thai: ngoo ga pha

Length: Up to 100 cm

Occurrence: Resident in the whole of Thailand and is often found under dry leaves, stones or old wood.

Behaviour:

Predominantly nocturnal especially when it is drizzling, but also active during the day. It bites, is an aggressive snake and advances very quickly.

Edited May 16, 2008 by pumpuiman

[Goshawk]

The first id of 'chain viper' is wrong

this is absolutely a Malayan Pit Viper - common in Thailand and very deadly (one of the worlds deadliest in fact)

[Okidoki]

The first id of 'chain viper' is wrong

this is absolutely a Malayan Pit Viper - common in Thailand and very deadly (one of the worlds deadliest in fact)

It´s sure poisonous but not to the extent that it is one of the most deadliest snakes in the world. If you get bitten, even without having proper medicalcare and if you are in normal good health, you will survive. Still, it will be a good idea to stay away from the snake and remove by the way you did according to the picture.

[wilko]

Anything with triangular head and fat body with definable tail - beware it is some kind of viper, likely as not.

however it is best just to have it removed...they do have a place in the food chain and killing them off will only result in an imbalance of some kind.

[TBWG]

Anything with triangular head and fat body with definable tail - beware it is some kind of viper, likely as not.

however it is best just to have it removed...they do have a place in the food chain and killing them off will only result in an imbalance of some kind.

Hi

Huh! that one looks a mean critter

Slightly off subject but I do wonder about these so called fatal bite creatures. Recently a Thai labourer was stung by a mean looking scorpion whilst working in our garden.

Had it been me I would of at least expected some sympathy and a visit to a doctor to confirm whether I should dig out the life policy or not.

However he did not seem too bothered and the boss lady told him to get on with his work! but she did administer some of that universal cure "Tiger Balm"

TBWG

[Goshawk]

Anything with triangular head and fat body with definable tail - beware it is some kind of viper, likely as not.

however it is best just to have it removed...they do have a place in the food chain and killing them off will only result in an imbalance of some kind.

Hi

Huh! that one looks a mean critter

Slightly off subject but I do wonder about these so called fatal bite creatures. Recently a Thai labourer was stung by a mean looking scorpion whilst working in our garden.

Had it been me I would of at least expected some sympathy and a visit to a doctor to confirm whether I should dig out the life policy or not.

However he did not seem too bothered and the boss lady told him to get on with his work! but she did administer some of that universal cure "Tiger Balm"

TBWG

the scorpions in Thailand are relatively harmless, the same as a bee sting...

[Bagwan]

I think that there is a lot of emotional claptrap surrounding snakes probably because of phobias and a lack of knowledge. Unless venom is injected directly into a major blood vessel or prompt medical treatment not sought, the vast majority of venomous snakes will not kill you. If bitten, stay calm and do not panic since an increased pulse will do you no favours, immobilise the limb, be sure to identify the snake (kill it if you can and take the corpse to hospital if you don't know), so that the proper antivenin can be administered. Get somebody to take you to hospital without delay. Most cobras have the facility to spit in the form of an accurate spray and if you get venom in your eyes it is very painful and unless washed out quickly can cause loss of sight. In Africa the Bantu peoples lie victims on the ground and pee into their eyes which may appeal to some deviant members ( ) - water will do nicely and I am told milk is even better.

The vast majority of snakes in Thailand are non venomous unlike Australia which has most of the very nasty ones but fatalities are rare.

Most snakes are quite timid and many enjoy being handled, something that I am not prepared to find out firsthand. Snakes have very poor eyesight and can only detect movement. Standing quite still offers a degree of protection except in the case of pit vipers which can detect body heat through glands at the side of their head. All snakes can however detect vibrations through the ground and, not wishing to be stepped on, will get out of possible harms way. It is for this reason that you should stomp and wear sturdy shoes, or better still boots, when walking around off the beaten track. There is recent evidence that snakes do not deliver a full bite when threatened by something too large for them to eat which may be likened to a clip round the ear rather than a knockout punch.

Sorry if I appear pedantic but no snakes are poisonous, in fact they are very edible.

Snakes have a very basic physiology and it is possible to have killed a snake and yet the snake doesn't know it is dead. A parallel would be headless chickens. I watched a TV programme in the National Geographic series recently in which three guys went off into the Arizona desert and came across a large 'rattler' which they shot. About ten minutes afterwards it was decided to cut off the snake's head to make sure. A full half hour afterwards the dead snake's head bit one of the guys. They were about six hours away from the nearest hospital and due to the delay in obtaining treatment the guy was in intensive care for a week.

About six years ago the Bangkok Post reported that about three hundred snakes were caught in Krung Thep every month and are later released up country. Certainly there is no shortage of pythons around Pattaya. Whether they are all called Monty I just couldn't say.

[wilko]

I think that there is a lot of emotional claptrap surrounding snakes probably because of phobias and a lack of knowledge. Unless venom is injected directly into a major blood vessel or prompt medical treatment not sought, the vast majority of venomous snakes will not kill you. If bitten, stay calm and do not panic since an increased pulse will do you no favours, immobilise the limb, be sure to identify the snake (kill it if you can and take the corpse to hospital if you don't know), so that the proper antivenin can be administered. Get somebody to take you to hospital without delay. Most cobras have the facility to spit in the form of an accurate spray and if you get venom in your eyes it is very painful and unless washed out quickly can cause loss of sight. In Africa the Bantu peoples lie victims on the ground and pee into their eyes which may appeal to some deviant members ( ) - water will do nicely and I am told milk is even better.

The vast majority of snakes in Thailand are non venomous unlike Australia which has most of the very nasty ones but fatalities are rare.

Most snakes are quite timid and many enjoy being handled, something that I am not prepared to find out firsthand. Snakes have very poor eyesight and can only detect movement. Standing quite still offers a degree of protection except in the case of pit vipers which can detect body heat through glands at the side of their head. All snakes can however detect vibrations through the ground and, not wishing to be stepped on, will get out of possible harms way. It is for this reason that you should stomp and wear sturdy shoes, or better still boots, when walking around off the beaten track. There is recent evidence that snakes do not deliver a full bite when threatened by something too large for them to eat which may be likened to a clip round the ear rather than a knockout punch.

Sorry if I appear pedantic but no snakes are poisonous, in fact they are very edible.

Snakes have a very basic physiology and it is possible to have killed a snake and yet the snake doesn't know it is dead. A parallel would be headless chickens. I watched a TV programme in the National Geographic series recently in which three guys went off into the Arizona desert and came across a large 'rattler' which they shot. About ten minutes afterwards it was decided to cut off the snake's head to make sure. A full half hour afterwards the dead snake's head bit one of the guys. They were about six hours away from the nearest hospital and due to the delay in obtaining treatment the guy was in intensive care for a week.

About six years ago the Bangkok Post reported that about three hundred snakes were caught in Krung Thep every month and are later released up country. Certainly there is no shortage of pythons around Pattaya. Whether they are all called Monty I just couldn't say.

I totally agree...lot of hysteria involved...as you sday some snakes are "Venomous" but none are poisonous.

It is worth remembring that the vibrations of your foot steps are enough to make even the most venomous of snakes turn and run the OTHER way....yes even the Taipan - contrary to Urban myth.

Edited May 18, 2008 by wilko

[Mosha]

Anything with triangular head and fat body with definable tail - beware it is some kind of viper, likely as not.

however it is best just to have it removed...they do have a place in the food chain and killing them off will only result in an imbalance of some kind.

Hi

Huh! that one looks a mean critter

Slightly off subject but I do wonder about these so called fatal bite creatures. Recently a Thai labourer was stung by a mean looking scorpion whilst working in our garden.

Had it been me I would of at least expected some sympathy and a visit to a doctor to confirm whether I should dig out the life policy or not.

However he did not seem too bothered and the boss lady told him to get on with his work! but she did administer some of that universal cure "Tiger Balm"

TBWG

the scorpions in Thailand are relatively harmless, the same as a bee sting...

I don't know how true this is, but I read somewhere. The bigger the pincers in relation to body size, the less poisonous the sting.

[TBWG]

I think that there is a lot of emotional claptrap surrounding snakes probably because of phobias and a lack of knowledge. Unless venom is injected directly into a major blood vessel or prompt medical treatment not sought, the vast majority of venomous snakes will not kill you. If bitten, stay calm and do not panic since an increased pulse will do you no favours, immobilise the limb, be sure to identify the snake (kill it if you can and take the corpse to hospital if you don't know), so that the proper antivenin can be administered. Get somebody to take you to hospital without delay. Most cobras have the facility to spit in the form of an accurate spray and if you get venom in your eyes it is very painful and unless washed out quickly can cause loss of sight. In Africa the Bantu peoples lie victims on the ground and pee into their eyes which may appeal to some deviant members ( ) - water will do nicely and I am told milk is even better.

The vast majority of snakes in Thailand are non venomous unlike Australia which has most of the very nasty ones but fatalities are rare.

Most snakes are quite timid and many enjoy being handled, something that I am not prepared to find out firsthand. Snakes have very poor eyesight and can only detect movement. Standing quite still offers a degree of protection except in the case of pit vipers which can detect body heat through glands at the side of their head. All snakes can however detect vibrations through the ground and, not wishing to be stepped on, will get out of possible harms way. It is for this reason that you should stomp and wear sturdy shoes, or better still boots, when walking around off the beaten track. There is recent evidence that snakes do not deliver a full bite when threatened by something too large for them to eat which may be likened to a clip round the ear rather than a knockout punch.

Sorry if I appear pedantic but no snakes are poisonous, in fact they are very edible.

Snakes have a very basic physiology and it is possible to have killed a snake and yet the snake doesn't know it is dead. A parallel would be headless chickens. I watched a TV programme in the National Geographic series recently in which three guys went off into the Arizona desert and came across a large 'rattler' which they shot. About ten minutes afterwards it was decided to cut off the snake's head to make sure. A full half hour afterwards the dead snake's head bit one of the guys. They were about six hours away from the nearest hospital and due to the delay in obtaining treatment the guy was in intensive care for a week.

About six years ago the Bangkok Post reported that about three hundred snakes were caught in Krung Thep every month and are later released up country. Certainly there is no shortage of pythons around Pattaya. Whether they are all called Monty I just couldn't say.

Interesting post Bagwan

Mods not sure if this needs separate thread ... leave it up to you if you wish to move it.

I am always confused by the Thai attitude that if it is a snake it must be killed!

Surely being Buddhists they are obliged to preserve life, we have all heard the story (apocryphal or not) about the monks checking before they sit down so as not to crush an ant. However I have difficulty reconciling this with the young boys I see deliberately running over a frog or using a catapult to kill a lizard or anything else that moves.

This is not a case of killing to eat but of killing for amusement, yes I know in the UK we hunt foxes despite legislation, but at least this supposedly is culling for farming livestock reasons.

I suppose bloodlust is part of the human psyche irrespective of religion.

TBWG

Hmmm ...Cockfighting

[Galong]

I don't know how true this is, but I read somewhere. The bigger the pincers in relation to body size, the less poisonous the sting.

Scorpions are venomous, not poisonous. Poisonous animals harm you if you eat them; venomous animals hurt you if they bite/sting you.

You are correct about the relationship between pincher size and the potency of their venom. I was stung by a large scorpion a few years ago. It certainly hurt, but after my Mrs applied some Tiger Balm the pain quickly subsided.

[wernerfreitag]

Hello,

It got me by surprise in my way to do the laundry.....

It's small but I guess it's poisonous as its head has triangular shape.

I live in Pattaya. I'm scared because I have a 2-yrs. old boy who loves to be outside.

Do you know what kind of snake is ?

Thanks for your help !

Siehe auch :http://www.siam-info.de/german/schlangen-crotalinae.html#Calloselasma%20rhodostoma