More Cables Broken?

[sniffdog]

My TOT connection has almost go to a complete stop ... average data throughput max 2KBs. Thaivisa is OK (as it's hosted in Singapore). However,

all other sites are slowwwww....

[marquess]

My TOT connection has almost go to a complete stop ... average data throughput max 2KBs. Thaivisa is OK (as it's hosted in Singapore). However,

all other sites are slowwwww....

Same here, on True and the whole thing has gone belly up since about 16.00, crawling glad to know that I am not the only one.[/size][/font]

[RKASA]

Yes even the IPStar is gone TU international.  I was thinking it was the change in IP they did to me.  Lets hope its temp.

[zorro1]

Thats a relief I can now stop throwing my modem against the wall. Strange though how TV is still screaming along..I smell a conspiracy

[nikster]

Reporting awfully slow speeds via CAT - however, it's awfully slow even to ThaiVisa.

Thanks for posting this, I can also now enjoy the rest of the evening without pulling my hair and wondering whether I had been singled out as an unwanted customer for excessive bittorrenting. Internet addiction is a terrible thing..

ps: I also watched it break down sometime around 16:00...

Edited May 18, 2008 by nikster

[RKASA]

Must be nice to have hair.  Well, I have a NASCAR Game so I ll just wait a few hours.

[Mosha]

It's taken ages to browse other sites, and editting flights in airline mogul is almost impossible

[opalhort]

same here on TRUE in BKK (1 Mbps) down to 50-100 Kbps download (usual speed 850-950Kbps).

TV is more or less OK but this is probably because most of the ads on their site have been cached on my PC by now.

new web sites are mostly time-outs.

opalhort

[monty]

Same here on CAT.

Looks like the main link to the USA is completely down, pretty much all US bound traffic is routed over France!

Routing to Thaivisa (Singapore) looks normal, but is probably slow as well due to increased traffic with all the re-routing...

[monty]

Everything goes through here now:

inetnum: 193.251.240.0 - 193.251.255.59

netname: OPENTRANSIT-BACKBONE

descr: France Telecom Long Distance

descr: 61, rue des Archives, 75003 Paris

country: FR

With ping times of 1700 msec and more, must be seriously congested over there, probably means large chunks of Asia's traffic, not only Thai traffic, gets routed through there...

[monty]

Hmm, there working on it, slight improvement, and getting routed to the UK now

inetnum: 213.206.128.0 - 213.206.131.255

netname: Sprintlink

descr: Sprintlink UK

country: GB

admin-c: SIA15-RIPE

tech-c: SIA15-RIPE

status: ASSIGNED PA

remarks: INFRA-AW

mnt-by: SPRINTLINK-MNT

source: RIPE # Filtered

Strangely enough, AIS GPRS is getting along perfectly normal! Just tested at 185 kbps to the US, ping times under 500 msec.

Unfortunately theri routers block tracerts, so have no clue how they're routing traffic.

Guess they're not using the CAT gateway...

[nikster]

According to my friendly CAT service, the international link aka IIG is down. ETA to fix 3h. So this is a Thai problem, not a cable somewhere. And they are doing all they can to fix it.

Edit: Monty - kind of makes sense since IIG is the by far biggest, but not the only link outta Thailand. (what I was going to say was GPRS is so slow you won't notice the difference... )

The ever resilient Bit torrent is chugging along at 12KB/s over here...

Edited May 18, 2008 by nikster

[paulfr]

True here in lower Sukhumvit is awful.

Just feel like turning off the computer.

At least UBC is working today.

[Jalla]

Strange, Tv is routed through Korea. Never seen this before....Everything else is more or less dead....

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=== VisualRoute report on 18.mai.2008 19:13:32 ===

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Report for www.thaivisa.com [203.174.84.82]

Analysis: 'www.thaivisa.com' was found in 12 hops (TTL=49). It is a HTTP server (running Apache).

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| Hop | %Loss | IP Address | Node Name | Location | Tzone | ms | Graph | Network |

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| 0 | | 1xx.xxx.2.115 | | ... | | | | (private use) |

| 1 | | 1xx.xxx.2.1 | - | ... | | 0 | x | (private use) |

| 2 | | 1xx.xxx.1.1 | - | ... | | 1 | x | (private use) |

| 3 | | 61.7.xxx.1 | - | ?Bangkok, Thailand | +07:00 | 7 | x | 10 Fl. 72. CAT TELECOM TOWER Bangrak Bangkok Thailand |

| 4 | | 61.7.148.73 | - | ?Bangkok, Thailand | +07:00 | 10 | x | 10 Fl. 72. CAT TELECOM TOWER Bangrak Bangkok Thailand |

| 5 | 10 | 122.154.34.253 | - | | | 26 | x | 122.154.34.0 |

| 6 | 100 | | | | | | | |

| 7 | | 203.234.255.114 | - | ?(Korea) | +09:00 | 173 | -x- | Korea Telecom |

| 8 | | 203.118.3.176 | tenGe-1-1-an-ats-int10.starhub.net.sg | ?(Singapore) | +08:00 | 124 | -x---- | Starhub Pte Ltd |

| 9 | | 203.117.6.210 | - | ?(Singapore) | +08:00 | 115 | x- | Starhub Pte Ltd |

| 10 | 30 | 203.174.80.70 | 203-174-80-70.rev.ne.com.sg | ?(Singapore) | +08:00 | 115 | x- | NewMedia Express Pte Ltd |

| 11 | 20 | 203.174.80.50 | 203-174-80-50.rev.ne.com.sg | ?(Singapore) | +08:00 | 119 | -x | NewMedia Express Pte Ltd |

| 12 | | 203.174.84.82 | www.thaivisa.com | ?(Singapore) | +08:00 | 117 | -x | Expat Group |

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Roundtrip time to www.thaivisa.com, average = 117ms, min = 116ms, max = 129ms -- 18.mai.2008 19:13:32

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=== VisualRoute report on 18.mai.2008 19:19:58 ===

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Report for www.bangkokpost.com [216.46.170.184]

Analysis: 'www.bangkokpost.com' was found in 23 hops (TTL=43). But, problems starting at hop 7 in network "CAT TELECOM Data Comm. Dept, Intrenet Office" are causing IP packets to be dropped. It is a HTTP server (running Apache/1.3.34 (Unix) PHP/4.4.7).

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| Hop | %Loss | IP Address | Node Name | Location | Tzone | ms | Graph | Network |

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| 0 | | 1xx.xxx.2.115 | | ... | | | | (private use) |

| 1 | | 1xx.xxx.2.1 | - | ... | | 0 | x | (private use) |

| 2 | | 1xx.xxx.1.1 | - | ... | | 1 | x | (private use) |

| 3 | | 61.7.182.1 | - | ?Bangkok, Thailand | +07:00 | 8 | x | 10 Fl. 72. CAT TELECOM TOWER Bangrak Bangkok Thailand |

| 4 | | 61.7.148.73 | - | ?Bangkok, Thailand | +07:00 | 10 | x | 10 Fl. 72. CAT TELECOM TOWER Bangrak Bangkok Thailand |

| 5 | | 202.47.247.222 | - | ?(Thailand) | +07:00 | 36 | x | CAT TELECOM Data Comm. Dept, Intrenet Office |

| 6 | | 202.47.254.141 | - | ?(Thailand) | +07:00 | 10 | x | CAT TELECOM Data Comm. Dept, Intrenet Office |

| 7 | 10 | 202.47.253.138 | - | ?(Thailand) | +07:00 | 10 | x | CAT TELECOM Data Comm. Dept, Intrenet Office |

| 8 | 40 | 193.251.251.85 | po2-2.passe2.Paris.opentransit.net | Paris, France | +01:00 | 1549 | x | France Telecom Long Distance |

| 9 | 50 | 4.68.111.254 | francetelecom-level3-10ge.Paris1.Level3.net | Paris, France | +01:00 | 1551 | x | 4.68.111.0 |

| 10 | 70 | 4.68.111.253 | te-2-4.car2.Paris1.Level3.net | Paris, France | +01:00 | 1552 | x | 4.68.111.0 |

| 11 | 60 | 4.68.109.94 | ae-31-53.ebr1.Paris1.Level3.net | Paris, France | +01:00 | 1552 | x | 4.68.109.0 |

| 12 | 40 | 4.69.133.82 | ae-1-100.ebr2.Paris1.Level3.net | Paris, France | +01:00 | 1554 | x | 4.69.133.0 |

| 13 | 60 | 4.69.137.54 | ae-42.ebr2.Washington1.Level3.net | Washington, DC, USA | -05:00 | 1643 | x | 4.69.137.0 |

| 14 | 80 | 4.69.132.69 | ae-2.ebr3.Chicago1.Level3.net | Chicago, IL, USA | -06:00 | 1657 | x | 4.69.132.0 |

| 15 | 50 | 4.69.132.61 | ae-3.ebr2.Denver1.Level3.net | Denver, CO, USA | -07:00 | 1684 | x | 4.69.132.0 |

| 16 | 40 | 4.68.107.162 | ge-5-0-0-56.gar1.Denver1.Level3.net | Denver, CO, USA | -07:00 | 1679 | x | 4.68.107.0 |

| 17 | 30 | 4.71.40.2 | VIAWEST-INT.gar1.Denver1.Level3.net | Denver, CO, USA | -07:00 | 473 | x | 4.71.40.0 |

| 18 | 50 | 64.78.230.193 | gec-008.crrt01.den05.viawest.net | | | 466 | x | 64.78.230.0 |

| 19 | 70 | 64.78.227.86 | pos-07-00.crrt02.slc04.viawest.net | | | 421 | x | 64.78.227.0 |

| 20 | 70 | 206.71.65.33 | gec-011.crrt01.slc04.viawest.net | | | 1693 | x | 206.71.65.0 |

| 21 | 70 | 206.71.76.26 | pos-01-m00-00.crrt01.las01.viawest.net | | | 1707 | x | 206.71.76.0 |

| 22 | 60 | 209.170.192.170 | srl-02-00.crrt01.las02.viawest.net | | | 1714 | x- | 209.170.192.0 |

| 23 | 50 | 216.46.170.184 | www.bangkokpost.com | | | 1712 | x | 216.46.170.0 |

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Roundtrip time to www.bangkokpost.com, average = 1712ms, min = 1703ms, max = 1717ms -- 18.mai.2008 19:19:58

[monty]

(what I was going to say was GPRS is so slow you won't notice the difference... )

But I do notice when gprs starts outperforming my 2 mbit CAT connection

Doesn't happen all that often!

Quite a few ISP's have their own IIG, but only a small portin of their traffic goes through that, the majority still has to go through CAT.

[Khun Jack]

My TOT connection has almost go to a complete stop ... average data throughput max 2KBs. Thaivisa is OK (as it's hosted in Singapore). However,

all other sites are slowwwww....

Phuket - Rawai area -TOT Goldcyber was fast this morning at 7h, later was dead for hours, thaivisa is loading slow, probably cant even post.

Last two weeks are bad, tel line is perfect, to many people on the line I guess, had a chance to try out a business line at 2700 baht/month and it sucks to.

[Norrad]

Phew, thought it was just me. I've reset my router about 10 times.

[geoffphuket]

My TOT connection has almost go to a complete stop ... average data throughput max 2KBs. Thaivisa is OK (as it's hosted in Singapore). However,

all other sites are slowwwww....

Phuket - Rawai area -TOT Goldcyber was fast this morning at 7h, later was dead for hours, thaivisa is loading slow, probably cant even post.

Last two weeks are bad, tel line is perfect, to many people on the line I guess, had a chance to try out a business line at 2700 baht/month and it sucks to.

Cat CDMA, EVDO and 1X is working fine in Thalang (Phuket). Maybe they've fixed the problem

[monty]

Currently on my AIS GPRS/EDGE back up as it is outperforming my CAT 2 mbit ADSL line...

hopefully they get all their sectors on-line again soon!

[alibaba]

We pay THB7500 a month for 1Mbps/512Kbps aDSL to use the PACNet SG gateway. However, the service only bypassed the CAT for the 1st week that we had it and ever since then their lame attempts to fix routing have just made it worse so yeh, now we as PACNet users are in the same boat.

The CAT is the problem with internet in the majority of cases.

Thailand is a completely oversubscribed population of users surviving on the edge of imminent packet loss by virtue of transparent proxy caching at the ISP (actually, it's probably the case that most users experience a percentage of packet loss on a constant basis).

Now the technology is going to increment as GPRS/EDGE makes way for 3G but the reality is that the international transit links cannot handle the volume, have no ability to offer support for time-sensitive applications and have apparently extremely limited diversity for failover and load-balancing.

It's a piece of crap and the buck stops at the CAT.

Regards,

[prallo]

Still international links are slow.

National traffic is O.K. as I can see because my girl-friend is surfing the Thai web sites right now.

[alibaba]

Further to the guy with the AIS mobile - my DTAC GPRS/EDGE connection is also coming in via loxinfo/AIS so is providing better redundancy that our PACNet aDSL.

PS The DTAC service is recommended - works everywhere and you can buy 1 day and 7 day access for (from memory 60 and 300THB respectively) via a *1004 code.

Performing trace to 202.91.19.205...

1 FastEth8-1-0.sb2.optus.net.au (192.168.34.3) 2.885 ms 2.516 ms 2.326 ms

2 203.208.191.213 (203.208.191.213) 156.547 ms 156.314 ms 156.401 ms

3 * 203.208.145.82 (203.208.145.82) 164.718 ms 156.452 ms

4 if-6-0-0-76.mcore3.LAA-LosAngeles.teleglobe.net (216.6.84.73) 156.403 ms 156.402 ms if-0-0-0-20.mcore3.LAA-LosAngeles.teleglobe.net (216.6.84.13) 156.406 ms

5 if-0-0-0-736.core1.TV2-Tokyo.teleglobe.net (209.58.61.33) 323.755 ms 262.011 ms 261.842 ms

6 if-11-0-0-733.core1.S9R-Singapore.Teleglobe.net (209.58.82.69) 329.438 ms 329.562 ms 330.002 ms

7 if-5-0.core1.S2E-Singapore.teleglobe.net (216.6.91.37) 340.161 ms 340.335 ms 341.010 ms

8 ix-3-3.core1.S2E-Singapore.teleglobe.net (216.6.91.34) 340.418 ms 341.040 ms 340.344 ms

9 202.183.136.130 (202.183.136.130) 387.832 ms 387.922 ms 387.843 ms

10 210.1.45.242 (210.1.45.242) 255.085 ms 255.508 ms 255.357 ms

11 210.1.46.162 (210.1.46.162) 258.720 ms 210.1.46.163 (210.1.46.163) 258.430 ms 210.1.46.162 (210.1.46.162) 258.743 ms

12 sw-skaHS1.loxinfo.net.th (203.146.0.103) 263.025 ms 258.420 ms 258.567 ms

13 202.183.187.190 (202.183.187.190) 306.405 ms 261.347 ms 262.202 ms

14 * * *

[LivinLOS]

[Prasert]

40% packetloss since 4pm and up to 2 seconds delay to Europe on both TOT and CAT

GPRS via DTAC is now fast: average delay of only 1121ms

[DP25]

This is just ridiculous. Everything overseas is basically totally unusable right now. Even stuff in Singapore is a joke, I'm getting a 300 ping to there and normally its about 50!

[hihhih]

TOT / ChiangMai... DSL link up, DNS ok, ping average 500-800ms to most European servers... but that's about it.

Web-browsing more or less impossible...

[Priceless]

TOT 2048/512 Chiang Mai <=> Stockholm, Sweden

Test 1 Upstream: 14.1 kbps, Downstream 35.6 kbps

Test 2 Upstream: 8.9 kbps, Downstream Timed out!

Thailand wants to be the IT hub of SE Asia

/ Priceless

[VoIP]

To VoIP or not to VoIP? Is internet up, that's the question!

good that (for now) there still is traditional telephony as an alternative

(beware the day all voice carriers will have migrated to VoIP)

[DP25]

Just curious, is this outage right now affecting ATM and credit cards with banks overseas as well?

[MaxLee]

It's freaking slow today...

An True has the insolence to offer 2M for 890 Baht "Promotion