Triumph

[egg]

Hi ,,, l have an Aussie mate over here and he wants to know if there any Triumph sales and parts shops anywhere in LOS ,,, l thought with all the bikers here there must be a Triumph head amongst you lot ,,,, any help appreciated .

cheers

Egg

[LivinLOS]

Yeah there are main dealers here..

BKK and CM (I think).. Triumph is one of the few large bikes legally on the market here and not a grey import..

[PeaceBlondie]

Chiang Mai for sure, and BKK, and maybe one other. You have to wonder, though, after the pent-up demand has been met (and with Harley, Ducati, BMW and Yamaha also selling big bikes legally), whether the sales departments can keep bringing in the revenue in 2009 and 2010, to keep the doors open.

[froggshw]

Triumph dealer also in BKK......soi RCA,can get there from Rama 9

[H2oDunc]

The nice guys from Britbike in BKK and Chiangmai will sort your friend out no problem. they are also hoping to pen branches in Phuket and Pattaya this year as well. The one thing that pursuaded me to go for a Triumph was the fact they sent 2 of their mechanics to the Triumph factory in Hinkley Uk to be shown how to properly service the bikes they sell. A big plus when you see some of the so called mechanics working on large bike here. PM me and I will give you the sales managers Numer for BKK, Khun Yut. He speaks very good English and returns calls and emails promptly, another big bonus. Enjoy

[mikethevigoman]

They are definatly in bkk,i had to laugh when i saw one at the show in bkk and stamped on the back "MADE IN ENGLAND ".its no more English than i am Thai !,.

[LivinLOS]

A Phuket operation would be great down here.

Got over taken by a tiger in town the other day and it looked very slick and good riding position for Thai roads.

[HDRIDER]

HI

MCW in Phuket town have a few, and yes i saw a Triumph sign in CM the other day.

http://www.moto-cycleworld.com/index.html

[Richard-BKK]

First it is possible that some Triumph's on the Thai roads are indeed made in England, even the one's you can find in showrooms don't have to come from the Thai factory. Logistic can sometimes be a bugger, but because we have a Triumph factory in Thailand it doesn't mean we have a distribution center for the motorcycles.

People faced with the need of costly parts for there Triumph bike do good to checkout some Australian parts websites. The prices will probably impress you. Import Duty is very little.

[basjke]

First it is possible that some Triumph's on the Thai roads are indeed made in England, even the one's you can find in showrooms don't have to come from the Thai factory. Logistic can sometimes be a bugger, but because we have a Triumph factory in Thailand it doesn't mean we have a distribution center for the motorcycles.

People faced with the need of costly parts for there Triumph bike do good to checkout some Australian parts websites. The prices will probably impress you. Import Duty is very little.

Since when triumph has a factory in australia?

[HDRIDER]

First it is possible that some Triumph's on the Thai roads are indeed made in England, even the one's you can find in showrooms don't have to come from the Thai factory. Logistic can sometimes be a bugger, but because we have a Triumph factory in Thailand it doesn't mean we have a distribution center for the motorcycles.

People faced with the need of costly parts for there Triumph bike do good to checkout some Australian parts websites. The prices will probably impress you. Import Duty is very little.

Since when triumph has a factory in australia?

Hi

Where did it say they have one in AUS???

[davidgtr]

Triumph will be opening a shop in Phuket soon.

Meanwhile in Chiang Mai...

The grand opening

a happy rider & new Bonnie owner

[Sojourner]

First it is possible that some Triumph's on the Thai roads are indeed made in England, even the one's you can find in showrooms don't have to come from the Thai factory. Logistic can sometimes be a bugger, but because we have a Triumph factory in Thailand it doesn't mean we have a distribution center for the motorcycles.

People faced with the need of costly parts for there Triumph bike do good to checkout some Australian parts websites. The prices will probably impress you. Import Duty is very little.

Import duty on motorcycle spare parts is 30%. Add VAT and then Excise tax and you get the picture. Trying normal post has the risk of the parts being stolen but chances are the total import cost is less. Using FedEx or any of the other expensive carriers guarantees you will pay full duty.

[manchestermike]

Do yamaha sell big bikes in Thailand ? If so where is the dealer.

At the motorshow, The kawasaki main agent told me they would start to sell 250cc bikes in August. They had a KLX, KLR and zzr 250 on the stand. all priced around 150K baht on the road.

Anybody any further info on this ?

The Honda guy said they may open a big bike showroom, but had no plans to sell the 250cc bikes here.

[Richard-BKK]

First it is possible that some Triumph's on the Thai roads are indeed made in England, even the one's you can find in showrooms don't have to come from the Thai factory. Logistic can sometimes be a bugger, but because we have a Triumph factory in Thailand it doesn't mean we have a distribution center for the motorcycles.

People faced with the need of costly parts for there Triumph bike do good to checkout some Australian parts websites. The prices will probably impress you. Import Duty is very little.

Import duty on motorcycle spare parts is 30%. Add VAT and then Excise tax and you get the picture. Trying normal post has the risk of the parts being stolen but chances are the total import cost is less. Using FedEx or any of the other expensive carriers guarantees you will pay full duty.

The Magic word is Free Trade Agreement.....

TAFTA's entry into force on 1 January 2005, Thailand eliminated its tariffs on some 2,934 tariff items, around 53% of all items, accounting for 78% of current Thai imports from Australia.

All references to an "immediate" elimination of or reduction in tariffs mean immediately upon entry into force of the agreement (1 January 2005).

On entry into force, Thailand reduced tariffs on any industrial goods not subject to immediate elimination to a ceiling of no more than 20% (with the exception of small and medium passenger motor vehicles), before phasing to zero. Where not eliminated immediately, tariffs on a range of industrial goods identified by Australia as of specific interest were halved immediately before phasing to zero.

Tariffs on all automotive parts, components and accessories, previously up to 42%, were immediately reduced to a ceiling of 20%, and will be phased to zero by 2010. Tariffs on engines were immediately reduced from the previous 30% to 15%. Other tariffs previously at or below 20% were also immediately reduced and phased down accordingly.

[Richard-BKK]

First it is possible that some Triumph's on the Thai roads are indeed made in England, even the one's you can find in showrooms don't have to come from the Thai factory. Logistic can sometimes be a bugger, but because we have a Triumph factory in Thailand it doesn't mean we have a distribution center for the motorcycles.

People faced with the need of costly parts for there Triumph bike do good to checkout some Australian parts websites. The prices will probably impress you. Import Duty is very little.

Since when triumph has a factory in australia?

Hi

Where did it say they have one in AUS???

Indeed, even to my knowledge I have no idea if there is a Triumph factory in Australia. Still this doesn’t matter much, as in the Thai – Australian free trade agreement is Thai and Australian products, it is not specified that products from Thailand can only flow into Australia and Australian products can only go to Thailand.

To higher competitiveness in Australia are motorcycle parts much cheaper; therefore you can by a whole front section for a price you cannot buy it here. (And it is “Made in Thailand”)

[davidgtr]

Do yamaha sell big bikes in Thailand ? If so where is the dealer.

Should be the "Yamaha shop" in Bangkok somewhere.

In Chiang Mai it is Charoen Motor, who organised a magnificent charity ride for their official opening in the North.

Yamah big bike info is here.

[basjke]

First it is possible that some Triumph's on the Thai roads are indeed made in England, even the one's you can find in showrooms don't have to come from the Thai factory. Logistic can sometimes be a bugger, but because we have a Triumph factory in Thailand it doesn't mean we have a distribution center for the motorcycles.

People faced with the need of costly parts for there Triumph bike do good to checkout some Australian parts websites. The prices will probably impress you. Import Duty is very little.

Since when triumph has a factory in australia?

Hi

Where did it say they have one in AUS???

Indeed, even to my knowledge I have no idea if there is a Triumph factory in Australia. Still this doesn’t matter much, as in the Thai – Australian free trade agreement is Thai and Australian products, it is not specified that products from Thailand can only flow into Australia and Australian products can only go to Thailand.

To higher competitiveness in Australia are motorcycle parts much cheaper; therefore you can by a whole front section for a price you cannot buy it here. (And it is “Made in Thailand”)

If triumph doesn't have a factory in australia the parts will not qualify for the import tax reduction.The free trade agreement(tafta)only applies to goods origin australia,this means produced in australia with australian parts,other goods even if they are bought in australia are subject to the full import tax.If you want to know more about the free trade agreement between australia and thailand and the conditions take a look at included link.

Rules of origin

[basjke]

Do yamaha sell big bikes in Thailand ? If so where is the dealer.

At the motorshow, The kawasaki main agent told me they would start to sell 250cc bikes in August. They had a KLX, KLR and zzr 250 on the stand. all priced around 150K baht on the road.

Anybody any further info on this ?

The Honda guy said they may open a big bike showroom, but had no plans to sell the 250cc bikes here.

Yamaha has a showroom in bangkok at ratchada phisek(spelling?) road about 100 meters away from fortune tower.They are selling 5 different models but unfortunately the smallest is 600 cc.You can call their headoffice on 02-6104555.

[Richard-BKK]

It is a Thai - Australian free trade agreement, and even if it sounds funny, you can import Thai manufactured products from Australia under the Free Trade Agreement.

Your link to Rules of Origin doesn't work but I belief you mean this Rules of Origin

Edited May 21, 2008 by Richard-BKK

[LivinLOS]

First it is possible that some Triumph's on the Thai roads are indeed made in England, even the one's you can find in showrooms don't have to come from the Thai factory. Logistic can sometimes be a bugger, but because we have a Triumph factory in Thailand it doesn't mean we have a distribution center for the motorcycles.

People faced with the need of costly parts for there Triumph bike do good to checkout some Australian parts websites. The prices will probably impress you. Import Duty is very little.

Import duty on motorcycle spare parts is 30%. Add VAT and then Excise tax and you get the picture. Trying normal post has the risk of the parts being stolen but chances are the total import cost is less. Using FedEx or any of the other expensive carriers guarantees you will pay full duty.

The Magic word is Free Trade Agreement.....

TAFTA's entry into force on 1 January 2005, Thailand eliminated its tariffs on some 2,934 tariff items, around 53% of all items, accounting for 78% of current Thai imports from Australia.

All references to an "immediate" elimination of or reduction in tariffs mean immediately upon entry into force of the agreement (1 January 2005).

On entry into force, Thailand reduced tariffs on any industrial goods not subject to immediate elimination to a ceiling of no more than 20% (with the exception of small and medium passenger motor vehicles), before phasing to zero. Where not eliminated immediately, tariffs on a range of industrial goods identified by Australia as of specific interest were halved immediately before phasing to zero.

Tariffs on all automotive parts, components and accessories, previously up to 42%, were immediately reduced to a ceiling of 20%, and will be phased to zero by 2010. Tariffs on engines were immediately reduced from the previous 30% to 15%. Other tariffs previously at or below 20% were also immediately reduced and phased down accordingly.

My fear would be, that although this may be the rules.. Will Somchai in my local post office know this ??

Also does this mean you can airfrieght a broken MC in parts (engine / frame / others in 3 packages) and in 2010 pay 0 import taxes and still get frame and engine 'invoice' legalities ?

[H2oDunc]

They are definatly in bkk,i had to laugh when i saw one at the show in bkk and stamped on the back "MADE IN ENGLAND ".its no more English than i am Thai !,.

ALL repeat ALL Triumph motorcyles are made in the UK at their factory in Hinkley. People are under the impression they are made here as Triumph does indeed have 2 factories here in Thailand. One of these factories make parts for a range of Triumphs and these are ALL then shipped to the UK. The other factory is a paint shop whic now paints these part before shippng back to the UK. SO They are about as British as anything these days. Yes some parts come from abroad, as with nearly every manufacturer, but they are ALL assembled in the UK hence made in the UK sticker.

[LivinLOS]

I seem to remember a post somewhere that gave some frame number info to define if the bike was Thai made or UK made..

Was that bogus info ??

[Richard-BKK]

It was the VIN (Vehicle Identification's Number), and if the 11th character of the VIN is a T your Triumph was manufactured in Thailand, if the 11th character is a J the bike was made in England (Jacknell Rd, Hinckley).

Edited May 22, 2008 by Richard-BKK

[Dave the Dude]

They are definatly in bkk,i had to laugh when i saw one at the show in bkk and stamped on the back "MADE IN ENGLAND ".its no more English than i am Thai !,.

ALL repeat ALL Triumph motorcyles are made in the UK at their factory in Hinkley. People are under the impression they are made here as Triumph does indeed have 2 factories here in Thailand. One of these factories make parts for a range of Triumphs and these are ALL then shipped to the UK. The other factory is a paint shop whic now paints these part before shippng back to the UK. SO They are about as British as anything these days. Yes some parts come from abroad, as with nearly every manufacturer, but they are ALL assembled in the UK hence made in the UK sticker.

Hi

Just as a point of interest and not cos I'm a pedantic git, are the 'new' Triumphs stickered now 'Made in the UK' then?? All my 'old' beauties used to have golden stickers with 'Made In England' emblazoned on them.

God I miss my Triumph's !

Dave

[Rhodiebkk]

Egg

As has been said, there are now two Triumph dealerships operating here in Thailand.

The main & parent one is based here in Bangkok along RCA, managed by K Yut [one of the best guys in the Thai bike biz].

You can reach him on 0897711677 if you have any specific queries.

Niyom Phanich are the dealers in Chiang Mai with their Showroom in Nimmanhaemin Road. The man to cntact is K Eak.

A dealer has been appointed in Phuket with plans for bringing on board one of the best farang mechanicsin the country.

They are planning on opening July/August.

BritBikes are also talking to a number of potential dealers in Isaan.

Regarding

i had to laugh when i saw one at the show in bkk and stamped on the back "MADE IN ENGLAND ".its no more English than i am Thai !,. biggrin.gif

This is the bike you saw at the BKK Motorshow with "Made in England"

It was one of the last to come out of Triumphs's Hinkley UK plant in 2006

and the first bike bought in Thailand – I put my deposit down in October 2006.

Evidently going for a cheap laugh rather than imparting actual knowledge;

as you chose to perpetuate the ignorance of your previous post, ignoring the information

I replied within the previous BKK MotorShow thread.

For those truly interested in the origin of various Triumphs bikes' assembly & manufacture:

This Scrambler is part of the "Classic & Cruiser Range" [bonneville/Thruxton/Scrambler/America/Speedmaster]

which for the most part moved assembly from UK to Thailand in the latter part of 2006

- tho there were still some 2007 versions still coming out of Hinkley.

These can be identified by ViN number and Factory sticker.

You can ID where the bikes were manufactured from the 11th character in VIN (plant location):

J=Jackhill Rd, Hinckley England; T= Chonburi Thailand.

UK built Scrambler

Thai built Bonnie

Beneath the Scram ViN Number is a small Square sticker marked F2

– the two operational Thai factories are designated F3 & F4 based here in Chonburi

with a third coming on stream later this year.

There is speculation from those in the know that their 1050 sportbike [Tiger/Speedtriple/ST] assembly will also be moved here soon.

Again, from those who are qualified to judge,

the welding & finish of the Thai assembly plant is better than that of the UK.

I, for one, was disappointed to find that I could not rebadge my bike as a

If you want to speak to someone who knows the facts and are not a tyre kicker,

give K Yut a call.

He may also have more on the 675 triple Tiger Cub that is due to be launched soon.

If you want to see specifics on "GS-ing" a Scrambler you read the post here:

http://www.triumphrat.net/triumph-twins-ha...th-project.html

A report on its tri-nation shakedown ride

http://www.triumphrat.net/ride-trip-report...edown-ride.html

The www.triumphrat.net is one of the best on-line communities modern for Triumphs.

[LivinLOS]

Rhodie, I kind of said as much on GT-R but that scrambler is drool worthy.. Such cool lines and your GSing of it just adds to it well.

A really fine ride.. Hope to see it in the flesh one day.

[Richard-BKK]

First it is possible that some Triumph's on the Thai roads are indeed made in England, even the one's you can find in showrooms don't have to come from the Thai factory. Logistic can sometimes be a bugger, but because we have a Triumph factory in Thailand it doesn't mean we have a distribution center for the motorcycles.

People faced with the need of costly parts for there Triumph bike do good to checkout some Australian parts websites. The prices will probably impress you. Import Duty is very little.

Import duty on motorcycle spare parts is 30%. Add VAT and then Excise tax and you get the picture. Trying normal post has the risk of the parts being stolen but chances are the total import cost is less. Using FedEx or any of the other expensive carriers guarantees you will pay full duty.

The Magic word is Free Trade Agreement.....

TAFTA's entry into force on 1 January 2005, Thailand eliminated its tariffs on some 2,934 tariff items, around 53% of all items, accounting for 78% of current Thai imports from Australia.

All references to an "immediate" elimination of or reduction in tariffs mean immediately upon entry into force of the agreement (1 January 2005).

On entry into force, Thailand reduced tariffs on any industrial goods not subject to immediate elimination to a ceiling of no more than 20% (with the exception of small and medium passenger motor vehicles), before phasing to zero. Where not eliminated immediately, tariffs on a range of industrial goods identified by Australia as of specific interest were halved immediately before phasing to zero.

Tariffs on all automotive parts, components and accessories, previously up to 42%, were immediately reduced to a ceiling of 20%, and will be phased to zero by 2010. Tariffs on engines were immediately reduced from the previous 30% to 15%. Other tariffs previously at or below 20% were also immediately reduced and phased down accordingly.

My fear would be, that although this may be the rules.. Will Somchai in my local post office know this ??

Also does this mean you can airfrieght a broken MC in parts (engine / frame / others in 3 packages) and in 2010 pay 0 import taxes and still get frame and engine 'invoice' legalities ?

Better import the motorcycle completely build, the import duty on a complete motorcycle is this year 12%, next year 6% and in 2010 "zero". The local post office doesn't handle the import duty that is the work of a customs officer who looks at the invoice, studies the product and writes how much the import duty is.... (It is helpful to include, with the invoice and shipping documents a paper with large letters saying "Product applying Thai - Australian Free Trade Agreement")

[rockyysdt]

Hi Rhodiebkk

Very interesting information you've posted here on Thai built Triumphs.

I didn't know!

Your scrambler is a very tasty looking machine.

You must smoke the low capacity stuff generally ridden in LOS.

How does she ride?

I try to avoid riding on wet days because keeping my ride clean can be a chore and they tend to deteriorate quickly.

How do you find riding during the monsoon season?

Having been an owner of a 1967 Thunderbird 650, and a 1969 Trophy 650, I personally fancy the 900 Thruxton & 1050 Tiger.

Regarding the Thai built machines.

Do you know where these are exported to?

I'd imagine Australia would be a good place to export them to due to the free trade agreement.

[Rhodiebkk]

Hi Rhodiebkk

Very interesting information you've posted here on Thai built Triumphs.

I didn't know!

Your scrambler is a very tasty looking machine.

You must smoke the low capacity stuff generally ridden in LOS.

How does she ride?

I try to avoid riding on wet days because keeping my ride clean can be a chore and they tend to deteriorate quickly.

How do you find riding during the monsoon season?

Having been an owner of a 1967 Thunderbird 650, and a 1969 Trophy 650, I personally fancy the 900 Thruxton & 1050 Tiger.

Regarding the Thai built machines.

Do you know where these are exported to?

I'd imagine Australia would be a good place to export them to due to the free trade agreement.

Re: riding you can see it here in the able hands of Aussie Supercross ace rider Mark Rossi:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=326829

Regarding wet, read the trip reports - providing its shod with the corrct rubber its fine.

Yes, all the classic range are now being built here in LoS and they will be what the rest of the world.

So were you to buy a new Thruxton [rather a contortionist's ride IMO]

then it would definitely be a Thairumph.

A Tiger nowever would still be coming out of Blighty for the forseeable future.