Sending Money For Shengen Visa

[lordsux]

I recently obtained a Shengen Permit for my wife via the Italian Embassy. We are in Italy now and my wife would like her best friend to come and visit for a long holiday (3 months). We will transfer the required amount directly to her bank account in Thailand.

I would like to know if there is any way to transfer the money, but in the event of her not receiving the visa is there a way to guarantee that we can get the money back. (We do trust her in a Thai way , but still want to secure the amount in the case that we need to apply via another Shengen member state)

Any other suggestions on how to get her here ASAP are very welcome.

She has a previous visa from the Italian Embassy which has been used and also an unused Australian Visa in her passport.

Look forward to your replies.

[Mossfinn]

but in the event of her not receiving the visa is there a way to guarantee that we can get the money back.

If you mean from the issuing party, then no.

Shengen visa info

Moss

[lordsux]

but in the event of her not receiving the visa is there a way to guarantee that we can get the money back.

If you mean from the issuing party, then no.

Shengen visa info

Moss

No, I mean that the applicant must show evidence of funds for the duration of the period applied for. It will be over 500 Euro that I will deposit into the applicants bank account. So, is there a way to deposit the amount so if the applicant is refused the visa we can retreive the money that we transfered to her bank.

I know it's a matter of trust, but i've just finished a 5 year tour of duty in LOS

[Mossfinn]

I guess it is a matter of trust then.

Moss

[paully]

It will be over 500 Euro that I will deposit into the applicants bank account. So, is there a way to deposit the amount so if the applicant is refused the visa we can retreive the money that we transfered to her bank.

No, why would there be? If you transfer over 500 Euro into someone else's bank account, and it's not through overpayment, error or deception, on what basis would you be attempting to recover it from their bank?? It's purely an issue between you and her, nothing to do with the bank.

Your wife had better love her very much and trust her

[malcolminthemiddle]

Isn't the OP asking just about the cost of the visa circa EURO 50?

[LaoPo]

but in the event of her not receiving the visa is there a way to guarantee that we can get the money back.

If you mean from the issuing party, then no.

Shengen visa info

Moss

No, I mean that the applicant must show evidence of funds for the duration of the period applied for. It will be over 500 Euro that I will deposit into the applicants bank account. So, is there a way to deposit the amount so if the applicant is refused the visa we can retreive the money that we transfered to her bank.

I know it's a matter of trust, but i've just finished a 5 year tour of duty in LOS

I'm not sure about Italy but normally the applicant has to prove that he/she has at least € 34 per DAY before a Schengen tourist visa is granted. If your wife's girlfriend is coming for 3 months (maximum is 90 days) you're talking about € 3.060.--

It is indeed a matter of trust...especially if you're talking Baht 150,000 apart from the costs the very good friend will cost you in Italy.

I think though that's also possible to guarantee from your side in Italy to have that money but I just noticed you're from Scandinavia so not sure how to handle.

LaoPo

[Mossfinn]

Isn't the OP asking just about the cost of the visa circa EURO 50?

No, he is asking about the required funds for the duration of the visit that he will putting in her account, not sure if the 500e will be enough though?

I mean that the applicant must show evidence of funds for the duration of the period applied for. It will be over 500 Euro that I will deposit into the applicants bank account.

Moss

[lordsux]

The visa was denied with no reason given.

The amount I was referring to was indeed the amount required to obtain a Shengen Visa. When food and accommodation is provided the daily amount required is reduced.

We sent about 800 Euros, which minus the visa application fee of 3000.- baht and obvious expenses is still in her bank. She has her own money in her bank and has regular income from her business.

All documents were in 100% order including an invitation letter stating that all expenses for food and accommodation would be covered by the invitee as well as any unforseen expenses. Insurance cover was arranged by ThaiVisa Insurance (great service btw), return flight reservations were made. In fact maybe the application was maybe too perfect for the Embassy?

Maybe the fact that my wife's friend is t also my ex-wife and still holds my surname played a part in her being refused the visa. Even though it should not have any influence on a bona fide tourist visa application at all.

My ex-wife received a 3 months Shengen Visa about 2 years ago after being denied an EEA Family Permit from the Italian Embassy, which she was in fact lawfully entitled to. We came to Italy but returned to Thailand after only 2 months, so no overstay. She also has an unused Oz visa in her passport. She owns her own business, has 2 children living in Thailand so in my eyes more than enough reason to return to Thailand which is what the embassy wants to see.

I wrote an email to the embassy as soon as we received the news that the visa had been refused politely asking for the reason for rejection, we are yet to receive a response. We wish to apply again to try and save our holiday plans but cannot really provide the embassy with more documentation than we already have done. Apparently there was a girl at the embassy who was rejected on her first attempt but recieved the visa after submitting exactly the same documents the second time around. I feel that it would just be throwing another 3000 baht into the Italian embassy's tea cup. Or maybe the official was just having a bad day that day?

So, anyone have any suggestions on how to get my wifes friend (my ex-wife) into a Shengen member state asap? We will drive anywhere to pick her up as this will also give my wife a great opportunity to see more of Europe.

[roygsd]

I am a little confused, you say that your ex wife recieved a schengen visa 2 years ago when she was entitled to a EEA Visa which was refused?

What nationality are you and were you still living as man and wife with your ex wife at the time?

What is your current wifes status where you live at the moment, (presumably Italy?) and how long have you been together?

Unless we know the facts then its hard to give advice as each case will be judgedon its own merits.

Personally I would rather sit on a cactus for a year or two before I would agree to have both my present and ex - wife getting cosy in my home.....

Roy gsd

[lordsux]

I am a little confused, you say that your ex wife recieved a schengen visa 2 years ago when she was entitled to a EEA Visa which was refused?

What nationality are you and were you still living as man and wife with your ex wife at the time?

What is your current wifes status where you live at the moment, (presumably Italy?) and how long have you been together?

Unless we know the facts then its hard to give advice as each case will be judgedon its own merits.

Personally I would rather sit on a cactus for a year or two before I would agree to have both my present and ex - wife getting cosy in my home.....

Roy gsd

In response to your questions.

My ex wife received a 3 month Shengen Visa in the beggining of 06, according to EU legislation she was entitled to an EEA Family Permit, but anyone that has dealt with the Italian Embassy in Bangkok knows that they interpret the rules as they see fit.

I am British with permanent Danish residency.

My wife is here in Italy on a 3 month shengen permit (she also is entitled to a EEA Family Permit, as I am a self sufficient UK citizen living in Italy, but try telling that to the Embassy. They refused to even look at the EU directive explaining the law when I presented it to them the first time around) My wife and I have been together for 1 year.

None of this is really relevant. My ex wife is an independent Thai citizen with her own business that applied for a tourist visa to visit several Shengen member states. Although she fulfilled all the requirements she was denied the visa.

As expected the embassy has yet to reply to my email inquiring as to the reason why she was denied the visa. We wish to apply again and obviously need to know the reason as not to get another denial. This case will be presented to the TAR del Lazio here in Rome as an official complaint if no response is made to my email.

My ex and my wife are good friends and are able to 'Think out of the box' My wife would like her friend to come and visit and to have a holiday (and eat somtam) and I have no objections to that.

Edited June 7, 2008 by lordsux