Future Spouse Visa To Aus

[nicholasmerwood]

Hey guys,

soon we will be applying for a future spouse visa for my fiance to come to Australia where we will get married. Any general tips besides the immi URL?

cheers

[gburns57au]

Hey guys,

soon we will be applying for a future spouse visa for my fiance to come to Australia where we will get married. Any general tips besides the immi URL?

cheers

General tips could be pages long....you need to be more specific.

Read back through this forum for plenty of opinions.

[nicholasmerwood]

Sorry to be so vague.

What documents along with the application form will favour the approval of our application?

Is it favourable if i meet with her family before I ask her to marry me. Her Mum died several years ago, and she is not that close to her father so I havn't met him yet; however he does advocate our future marriage.

I'm going over to Thailand in November, to stay for five months while the visa gets processed. Is five months sufficient time to allow for the approval/decline of this visa?

Is it a better option if we get married during my next visit to Thailand; and directly apply for a spouse visa rather than a future spouse visa?

Ta

[ronnight]

Start to gather all the supporting material that you can.

Records of email, phone calls, photos of both you together, even stat decs from Australian citizens who have been in contact with both of you and can testify to to the strength and validity of your relationship. The stronger the material evidence the easier the application should be.

[gburns57au]

Have a look at the actual application forms and the partner migration booklet (both available online) this will give you the info you need.

[david96]

When applying for a spouse visa there are some important dates to remember and document.

Date you first met, where and how.

Date you decided to get married.

Date of marriage

Date of marriage ceremony in Thailand (if held)

Date "relationship" commenced, this can be the date of marriage.

You should allow a period at least six months after date of marriage before applying for a spouse visa although this is not stipulated.

For a "defacto" or "partner" (to use the PC term) a minimum of 12 months after the relationship commenced is required.

Your relationship period starts from the date the relationship commenced, this date is important. Conditions for a defacto application may be more onerous.

[gburns57au]

When applying for a spouse visa there are some important dates to remember and document.

Date you first met, where and how.

Date you decided to get married.

Date of marriage

Date of marriage ceremony in Thailand (if held)

Date "relationship" commenced, this can be the date of marriage.

You should allow a period at least six months after date of marriage before applying for a spouse visa although this is not stipulated.

For a "defacto" or "partner" (to use the PC term) a minimum of 12 months after the relationship commenced is required.

Your relationship period starts from the date the relationship commenced, this date is important. Conditions for a defacto application may be more onerous.

"Relationship" relates to when the couple first decided to make the relationship mutually exclusive. While this could be the date of marriage....It would be unlikely for most couples. I would think that it would also raise concerns if the relationship started on the date of marriage.

You can apply for a spouse visa the day after the wedding if you want.....there is no waiting period for that...We applied 4 months after our wedding and nothing was said and certainly there is nothing in the guides about that.

[david96]

When applying for a spouse visa there are some important dates to remember and document.

Date you first met, where and how.

Date you decided to get married.

Date of marriage

Date of marriage ceremony in Thailand (if held)

Date "relationship" commenced, this can be the date of marriage.

You should allow a period at least six months after date of marriage before applying for a spouse visa although this is not stipulated.

For a "defacto" or "partner" (to use the PC term) a minimum of 12 months after the relationship commenced is required.

Your relationship period starts from the date the relationship commenced, this date is important. Conditions for a defacto application may be more onerous.

"Relationship" relates to when the couple first decided to make the relationship mutually exclusive. While this could be the date of marriage....It would be unlikely for most couples. I would think that it would also raise concerns if the relationship started on the date of marriage.

You can apply for a spouse visa the day after the wedding if you want.....there is no waiting period for that...We applied 4 months after our wedding and nothing was said and certainly there is nothing in the guides about that.

Very true, in my case we were married 10 months after we met and this was the date used for the start of the relationship.

Application was 19 months after we were married, so DIAC regarded this as the relationship time.

If you met, got married and applied for a spouse visa in say less that 3 months (example) it would most probably be refused and you would have to apply again at a later date

The six months is only a guide one used myself as it is not stipulated it could be 3 or 4 but one should allow some time after marriage before applying for a spouse visa.

Edited May 31, 2008 by david96

[nicholasmerwood]

We've been in a mutual relationship for about 14 months. 5 of those months actually living together. Would be applying for a future spouse visa in November, when we have already been together for 19 months...and been living together for 7 months....I think that's enuf. We will hopefully be getting married August/September 09 - so we would have been together for 2.5 years then. I can tell you though....the visa fee of $1500AUD is very excessive and not justified. I don't think it should be more than half of this for the work required. I guess they know people will pay it so its another revenue raiser.

Hey and just to let everyone know , my TGF has loved her stay in Perth - and has had minimal Thai contact. No Thai movies/t.v, little contact with home (maybe calls once a week for 10 or 15 minutes), although Thai food most days. Been great....really enjoying it

[david96]

We've been in a mutual relationship for about 14 months. 5 of those months actually living together. Would be applying for a future spouse visa in November, when we have already been together for 19 months...and been living together for 7 months....I think that's enuf. We will hopefully be getting married August/September 09 - so we would have been together for 2.5 years then. I can tell you though....the visa fee of $1500AUD is very excessive and not justified. I don't think it should be more than half of this for the work required. I guess they know people will pay it so its another revenue raiser.

Hey and just to let everyone know , my TGF has loved her stay in Perth - and has had minimal Thai contact. No Thai movies/t.v, little contact with home (maybe calls once a week for 10 or 15 minutes), although Thai food most days. Been great....really enjoying it

The times that you have stipulated will satisfy DIACs requirements.

$1500 may seem excessive but their operating costs will be about $80-$120 an hour for processing application.

Relationship time -- you can compare it to obtaining your minimum "hours" for a commercial pilots licence!

Edited June 2, 2008 by david96

[nicholasmerwood]

80-120$/hour! shit!

one more question - once such a visa is approved....let's just assume a spouse visa...what is the process for obtaining a pr or australian citizenship from there on? is it very hard?

also, after a spouse visa is granted, what's the deal with travelling to other countries for holidays. Say if I wanted to go to South America or Europe with her, would she have to obtain all the tourist visa's or would she be treated as an Australian citizen and can get the visa's automatically granted upon arrival?

[david96]

80-120$/hour! shit!

one more question - once such a visa is approved....let's just assume a spouse visa...what is the process for obtaining a pr or australian citizenship from there on? is it very hard?

also, after a spouse visa is granted, what's the deal with travelling to other countries for holidays. Say if I wanted to go to South America or Europe with her, would she have to obtain all the tourist visa's or would she be treated as an Australian citizen and can get the visa's automatically granted upon arrival?

2 years temporary visa, then permanent visa may be issued. A RRV will be required for travel overseas after 5 years.

Australian citizen information.http://www.citizenship.gov.au/applying/spouses.htm

Spouse would travel on her own countries passport. She would be a dual citizen if she applied and was granted Australian

citizenship. With an Australian passport it is easier to obtain visas.

In some cases permanent residence can be lost.

[gburns57au]

80-120$/hour! shit!

one more question - once such a visa is approved....let's just assume a spouse visa...what is the process for obtaining a pr or australian citizenship from there on? is it very hard?

also, after a spouse visa is granted, what's the deal with travelling to other countries for holidays. Say if I wanted to go to South America or Europe with her, would she have to obtain all the tourist visa's or would she be treated as an Australian citizen and can get the visa's automatically granted upon arrival?

The PR process starts with the grant of the Spouse visa....you dont need to re-apply. Citizenship....depends on the values test that is now required...generally not too hard for the both of them.

Travel and multiple entries are allowable on the spouse visa and PR visa. Until she has an Oz passport she will travel as a Thai and be subject to any visa conditions that apply for Thai people.

[gburns57au]

$1500 may seem excessive but their operating costs will be about $80-$120 an hour for processing application.

We should be glad it is a set fee then.....