zaza Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Hi guys, this is the first time I join this forum and I know you would make fun of me cause am so (idiot) in computers and IT filed, but please am in a total deep <deleted> now , after losing all my data and files ,I tried as hel_l to recover those files but yet it's lost. I am trying to calm down and stop cursing myself ,I had moved all my files from an old laptop to :Samsung- Mobile Hard Drive USB 2.0 portable hard disk that I'd bought today from Pantip plaza. which I suppose I could use to back up these files on another laptop and desktop computer too. It was working very well then after deleting some program ,laptop asked for a restart so I clicked yes and that hard disk was still attached, when the computer restarted the portable hard disk didn't function and it rejected to be open or even auto play the files that were uploaded previously in it,then a window started to pop out asking to "format" that drive and saying all data and files will be lost if I choose formating. That means I will lose all my data ,personal files and simply "everything" I did try to use it on the desk top computer and yet it is not functioning and asking to be formatted again. what shall I do ??I am ashamed to declare am so .....up ignorant when it comes to such stuff. thanks and I do appreciate your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaza Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 any clues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonQuest Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Hmmmm - not recognizing the HD? Checked to see if new drive is recognized under computer management. Perhaps all you need to do is -activate the partition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaza Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 If I format I'd lose all those saved files,right? but Brit, I did activate it the first time. I don't know what is going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Does the HD have external power or is it just USB powered? If USB powered does it have two usb ends, like a Y. If so maybe need to plug both in to get significant power to the drive? However requesting to format drive usually isnt a good thing. I take it you already deleted the files from the original source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Traveller Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) What is the OS of the source machine? Did you move or copy files, i.e. drag and drop them? Every file & directory copied/move OK, no error messages? You then deleted a program {what & how} and subsequently you rebooted and then the drive 'disappeared', correct? Do you have another PC there to which you can attach the USB HD? Regards Edited May 27, 2008 by A_Traveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slackula Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Hi guys,this is the first time I join this forum and I know you would make fun of me cause am so (idiot) in computers and IT filed, but please am in a total deep <deleted> now , after losing all my data and files ,I tried as hel_l to recover those files but yet it's lost. I am trying to calm down and stop cursing myself ,I had moved all my files from an old laptop to :Samsung- Mobile Hard Drive USB 2.0 portable hard disk that I'd bought today from Pantip plaza. which I suppose I could use to back up these files on another laptop and desktop computer too. It was working very well then after deleting some program ,laptop asked for a restart so I clicked yes and that hard disk was still attached, when the computer restarted the portable hard disk didn't function and it rejected to be open or even auto play the files that were uploaded previously in it,then a window started to pop out asking to "format" that drive and saying all data and files will be lost if I choose formating. That means I will lose all my data ,personal files and simply "everything" I did try to use it on the desk top computer and yet it is not functioning and asking to be formatted again. what shall I do ??I am ashamed to declare am so .....up ignorant when it comes to such stuff. thanks and I do appreciate your help. More information will be needed if we can help you: 1) What operating system is the computer using, especially differences between the laptop and desktop 2) Which program did you delete that made it stop working 3) Do NOT format the drive, try to unmount/eject it and then re-plug it and report the error messages etc here 4) Don't panic, yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaza Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 Does the HD have external power or is it just USB powered? If USB powered does it have two usb ends, like a Y. If so maybe need to plug both in to get significant power to the drive? However requesting to format drive usually isnt a good thing. I take it you already deleted the files from the original source? yes,it has 2 USB ends. I just plugged them both now but not working yet. I did cut and paste those files into that HD and I even try to use "restore system" to a certain date and those files are not retrieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Traveller Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) ^ Ctrl+C then Ctrl+V or Crtl+X then Ctrl+V? or Menu Cut or Copy? Regards Edited May 27, 2008 by A_Traveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) Cut/Paste? Have you rebooted system - sometimes the usb drives can be pain in the arse and needs to refresh itself via the reboot. Edited May 27, 2008 by britmaveric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaza Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 What is the OS of the source machine?Did you move or copy files, i.e. drag and drop them? Every file & directory copied/move OK, no error messages? You then deleted a program {what & how} and subsequently you rebooted and then the drive 'disappeared', correct? Do you have another PC there to which you can attach the USB HD? Regards The operating system is windows XP. I did cut and paste those files. and the files were copying without any error messages. Sorry;I don't remember exactly what program I deleted but I used (add & delete) programs on the control panel. and yes ;correct after I rebooted the drive had disappeared. I am using my sons' desktop PC now and I tried several times to attach the USB HD in it and yet it's not functioning thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaza Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 Hi guys,this is the first time I join this forum and I know you would make fun of me cause am so (idiot) in computers and IT filed, but please am in a total deep <deleted> now , after losing all my data and files ,I tried as hel_l to recover those files but yet it's lost. I am trying to calm down and stop cursing myself ,I had moved all my files from an old laptop to :Samsung- Mobile Hard Drive USB 2.0 portable hard disk that I'd bought today from Pantip plaza. which I suppose I could use to back up these files on another laptop and desktop computer too. It was working very well then after deleting some program ,laptop asked for a restart so I clicked yes and that hard disk was still attached, when the computer restarted the portable hard disk didn't function and it rejected to be open or even auto play the files that were uploaded previously in it,then a window started to pop out asking to "format" that drive and saying all data and files will be lost if I choose formating. That means I will lose all my data ,personal files and simply "everything" I did try to use it on the desk top computer and yet it is not functioning and asking to be formatted again. what shall I do ??I am ashamed to declare am so .....up ignorant when it comes to such stuff. thanks and I do appreciate your help. More information will be needed if we can help you: 1) What operating system is the computer using, especially differences between the laptop and desktop 2) Which program did you delete that made it stop working 3) Do NOT format the drive, try to unmount/eject it and then re-plug it and report the error messages etc here 4) Don't panic, yet I didn't EVEN have the chance to move the files to the desktop cause it has disappeared from the HD. I deleted many programs cause I wanted to sell that laptop, I was acting clever but it seems I am so ........ I did restart the laptop ,plug and re plug several times , no luck I am not panicked yet ; I just pulled my hair out and abt to punch my nose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaza Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 ^ Ctrl+C then Ctrl+V or Crtl+X then Ctrl+V? or Menu Cut or Copy? Regards I know you are all of me now. but I did right click on those files pressing Ctrl and then chosed cut and pasted em all in the HD, is it stupid way or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 i would try disconnecting the HD from your computer, reboot your computer, wait for your computer to FULLY boot up, then re-attach the HD's Windows *should* look for/install the necessary drivers by itself, if not, you probably got a cd or something with the new HD, this will have the drivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Well it just means its perm, better to do copy until u are sure you have your files ect. Then just delete them. However thats water under the bridge right now - should be on the usb HD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaza Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 I will use wolfie advise now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaza Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 no results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Traveller Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) OK, can you please confirm this. If you plug in the drive does the activity light on the drive flash? Also if you have sound on is there any tone when you plug or unplug the drive. Regards PS Sorry, do you have a USB flash stick drive? If so does that work when you plug into the USB? PPS Sorry about the attack of gibberish Edited May 27, 2008 by A_Traveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaza Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 OK, can you please confirm this. If you plug in the drive does the activity light on the drive flash? Also if you have sound on is there any tone when you plug or unplug the drive.Regards PS Sorry, do you have a USB flash stick drive? If so does that work when you plug into the USB? PPS Sorry about the attack of gibberish yes; the drive flashes light when I do plug it. and when I'd used the flash USB stick drive it had worked. I am the one who should apologize for bothering you all. and am so thankful for all your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaza Posted May 27, 2008 Author Share Posted May 27, 2008 I think I should go to Pantip Plaza early tomorrow ,hoping they'd know a way to fix that drive or restore those files . good night and thanks for all your efforts . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Traveller Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) Taking a step back, if the lead is twin headed, which I think you said it was, it may be worth, disconnecting, rebooting the PC and trying a single connector, if that doesn't work, make sure you know which you tried and then shut-down, and, you've guessed it, try rebooting and then plugging in the other connector. I've found upon occasion that the two don't act identically. If nothing else we'll remove that as an 'issue'. Regards PS remember that files are not deleted, but the file name is changed to release space, so it may well be possible to get the files back on the PC hard disk. Edited May 27, 2008 by A_Traveller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmaveric Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Not so sure its wise to let the Pantip people look at - next thing you know there will be no hope for recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolmswaine Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 (edited) I would probably take the drive to someone that can perform data recovery. We can assume your files are still on the disk, but maybe something in the file system has become corrupt so you just cant access them any more. Either that or prepare to get your hands dirty by trying to access the raw data on the disk. I'll be honest I've never tried it, but I assume its possible to bypass using a file system and just access the raw memory per se. here are some resources that may help if you decide to brave it alone http://memory-stick-restore.qarchive.org/ heres a torrent that may help you ... http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3979572/memory_stick_file_rescue Edited May 27, 2008 by malcolmswaine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Traveller Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 In my view, if there is a recovery requirement then it should focus on the source {the PC} not the destination {the USB drive}. If the USB disk file system has become damaged, then the PC may well be more recoverable. However, it may still prove to be a connexion issue, let's hope so. Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolmswaine Posted May 27, 2008 Share Posted May 27, 2008 Yes, thats a good point A_Traveller. Maybe a good solution would be to try a using an undelete tool on the source notebook. Here's a link to some programs that may be of use for this. http://thepiratebay.org/search/undelete/0/99/0 Zaza, I'd read the manual on these first before using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaza Posted May 28, 2008 Author Share Posted May 28, 2008 Pantip IT expert in retrieving data whom was recommended by Thai friends said all those data is lost in that hard drive........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolmswaine Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Its a shame you didnt try one of the options I suggested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozymandious Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 Try this free utility to recover files form the source PC (notemook) I've used this before and it works well. http://filehippo.com/download_recuva/ Recuva Recuva (pronounced "recover") is a freeware Windows utility to restore files that have been accidentally deleted from your computer. This includes files emptied from the Recycle bin as well as images and other files that have been deleted by user error from digital camera memory cards or MP3 players. It will even bring back files that have been deleted by bugs, crashes and viruses! * Simple to use interface - just click 'Scan' and choose the files you want to recover * Easy to use filter for results based on file name/type * Simple Windows like interface with List and Tree view * Can be run from a USB thumb drive * Restores all types of files, office documents, images, video, music, email, anything. * Supports FAT12, FAT16, FAT32, NTFS, NTFS5 , NTFS + EFS file systems * Restores files from removable media (SmartMedia, Secure Digital, MemoryStick, Digital cameras, Floppy disks, Jaz Disks, Sony Memory Sticks, Compact Flash cards, Smart Media Cards, Secure Digital Cards, etc.) * Restores files from external ZIP drives , Firewire and USB Hard drives * It's fast, tiny and takes seconds to run! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaDavid Posted May 28, 2008 Share Posted May 28, 2008 DON'T FORMAT YOUR DRIVE UNTIL YOU TRY THIS! I've had the same thing occur when using a USB connected external hard drive. What happened to me is that after copying some files to my portable hard drive, I attached the drive to my other laptop, but the drive was not recognized. It wasn't recognized because for some reason it didn't have a designated drive letter. It seems that there is some problems that occur with portable USB hard drive connectons as compared to USB flash drives. I don't have Windows XP, but to correct the problem on my computer using Windows Vista, all I had to do was to assign a drive letter to the drive. To do so in Vista, open the "Control Panel" then open "Administrative Tools" then open "Computer Management" then open "Storage" then "Disk Management". You should then be able to seen your portable USB drive, however it won't have an assigned drive letter. Click on the drive then go to the top right-hand corner of the window and click on "More Actions" then "All Tasks" then select "Change Drive Letter and Paths" or something similar. Bottom line, you want to assign a drive letter to your portable USB drive. Once you do this, you should be able to see the drive in Windows Explorer. Of course, these instructions apply to Windows Vista, however I think it would be similar in Windows XP. Your problem may be different than mine, but at least take a look at this first before formatting your drive. Good luck, Pattayadavid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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