Thai Girlfriend Australian Visitor Visa

[suravi]

Hoping someone can help me with information on letter of invitation, i am not sure how it should be worded and what should go in it.

My 19 year old son recently met a lovely girl in Thailand while we were on holidays there and we would like her to be able to visit Australia for a while so they could have a chance at a relationship. I get the feeling it would be best if I were to invite her to stay with me and be supported by me while she is here. My son does not live with me and prob best to keep him out of it?

I am a teacher and have a spare room in my house where she could stay.

However, the Thai girl does not have a regular job, although she does hve family in Thailand. Also at present no fixed address, but could use her mothers address?? Any advice on how to word the letter and anything that may improve our chances. Would it help to say she is going to help look after my little daughter in return for her keep. Or better to just say i am supporting her. Would it help to say I was going to help her learn English while she is here? Etc, I have no idea what I should say.

Suravi

[dr_Pat_Pong]

Hoping someone can help me with information on letter of invitation, i am not sure how it should be worded and what should go in it.

My 19 year old son recently met a lovely girl in Thailand while we were on holidays there and we would like her to be able to visit Australia for a while so they could have a chance at a relationship. I get the feeling it would be best if I were to invite her to stay with me and be supported by me while she is here. My son does not live with me and prob best to keep him out of it?

I am a teacher and have a spare room in my house where she could stay.

However, the Thai girl does not have a regular job, although she does hve family in Thailand. Also at present no fixed address, but could use her mothers address?? Any advice on how to word the letter and anything that may improve our chances. Would it help to say she is going to help look after my little daughter in return for her keep. Or better to just say i am supporting her. Would it help to say I was going to help her learn English while she is here? Etc, I have no idea what I should say.

Suravi

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At 19 years of age Suravi, his girl will laughed out of the Immigration office. It ain't worth the trouble.

[nicholasmerwood]

I disagree.

Firstly, a tourist visa does not have to have anything to do with a relationship, IT CAN be a friendship or something like that.

Secondly, every case is considered individually.

If I was you, I would just explain the truth. Tell them that your son met a nice girl over there and they are now a couple, and the whole family has also met her and kept in contact with her since the visit. Explain you want her to come to Australia to EXPERIENCE THE LIFESTYLE and see how you go about your daily activities. Explain that you are willing to support her, and pay for all costs incurred, including food, medical costs, housing costs, etc blah blah blah. Don't say she is doing any work or any chores....sometimes that can work against you even if its unpaid. She is allowed to stay at your son's house, providing you are covering rent for her....if the rent is not increasing then you just need to demonstrate you can cover for the rest of the expenses.

If will be in your advantage, and is quiet important, to proove that you/your son has known her for at least 6 months (i think its 6?....any help here would be appreciated) otherwise they can dismiss the case quickly. Mobile phone call history, emails, photos with dates etc. You will have to provide your own payslips/bank statements to show adequate income to support her (last three months is ideal).

it's definately possible BUT the other main thing is....she has to have reason to return to Thailand.

And that's where I AGREE with the previous post. If she has no fixed address, uncertain employment, and other things like that...and can't give a REALLY good reason for return to Thailand she will never cross the border.

I met my Thai partner when i was 21, she came over when I was 22, (11 months after i met her), and she has been her for nearly six months on a tourist visa. Its all possible, but just give it a bit more time if it seems to early. If they really have feelings for each other they should be able to wait an extra six months if required.

Hope that helps

Nick

Edited July 12, 2008 by nicholasmerwood

[suravi]

I disagree.

Firstly, a tourist visa does not have to have anything to do with a relationship, IT CAN be a friendship or something like that.

Secondly, every case is considered individually.

If I was you, I would just explain the truth. Tell them that your son met a nice girl over there and they are now a couple, and the whole family has also met her and kept in contact with her since the visit. Explain you want her to come to Australia to EXPERIENCE THE LIFESTYLE and see how you go about your daily activities. Explain that you are willing to support her, and pay for all costs incurred, including food, medical costs, housing costs, etc blah blah blah. Don't say she is doing any work or any chores....sometimes that can work against you even if its unpaid. She is allowed to stay at your son's house, providing you are covering rent for her....if the rent is not increasing then you just need to demonstrate you can cover for the rest of the expenses.

If will be in your advantage, and is quiet important, to proove that you/your son has known her for at least 6 months (i think its 6?....any help here would be appreciated) otherwise they can dismiss the case quickly. Mobile phone call history, emails, photos with dates etc. You will have to provide your own payslips/bank statements to show adequate income to support her (last three months is ideal).

it's definately possible BUT the other main thing is....she has to have reason to return to Thailand.

And that's where I AGREE with the previous post. If she has no fixed address, uncertain employment, and other things like that...and can't give a REALLY good reason for return to Thailand she will never cross the border.

I met my Thai partner when i was 21, she came over when I was 22, (11 months after i met her), and she has been her for nearly six months on a tourist visa. Its all possible, but just give it a bit more time if it seems to early. If they really have feelings for each other they should be able to wait an extra six months if required.

Hope that helps

Nick

I dont understand why it is such a problem for a person to come to Australia for a holiday?? Really it is quite racist and sexist to assume that because she is Thai and a young female, she is going to try and stay in the country illegally. Noone questioned me going over there for a holiday.

Cant her parents address be her fixed address?

We have only known her for a month at this stage. Do we really have to wait for six months for her to visit our country? Of course, we can, but it doesnt make sense. It will be much cheaper and easier for her to come over here for a few months than for my son to go over there. He works and has now used his holidays up.

Would it be better not to make it a girlfriend/boyfriend thing, as it is currently so short term, and just say she is a friend of the family, she showed us around Phuket and we would like to show her some of our country. Would that mean we could apply earlier?

Is it worth trying now anyway and if it gets refused we can try again in six months?

Also is it worth paying someone to help with the application?

Is her family in Thailand a sufficient reason for her to want to return? Her mother and young siblings live there and she is going back to live with them now.

Thanks for any help you can give us

Suravi

[aussie_21]

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At 19 years of age Suravi, his girl will laughed out of the Immigration office. It ain't worth the trouble.

Absolutely not. I had my girl who I had only known for a month get a visa and at that time was only 19 years and also has a daughter.

[Pink Mist]

greetings Suravi,

firstly getting a visa is like a lottery, get a good case worker and you may get a visa

build a good case and you have a better chance

reason to return is open to discussion, but a job and a house are not allways reasons to return, depends on the CO

it's not a racist or feminist thing as the decisions are made by Thai women in the passport centre

good luck, build a good case and read the many posts on this very subject here on Thaivisa

[gburns57au]

Hoping someone can help me with information on letter of invitation, i am not sure how it should be worded and what should go in it.

My 19 year old son recently met a lovely girl in Thailand while we were on holidays there and we would like her to be able to visit Australia for a while so they could have a chance at a relationship. I get the feeling it would be best if I were to invite her to stay with me and be supported by me while she is here. My son does not live with me and prob best to keep him out of it?

I am a teacher and have a spare room in my house where she could stay.

However, the Thai girl does not have a regular job, although she does hve family in Thailand. Also at present no fixed address, but could use her mothers address?? Any advice on how to word the letter and anything that may improve our chances. Would it help to say she is going to help look after my little daughter in return for her keep. Or better to just say i am supporting her. Would it help to say I was going to help her learn English while she is here? Etc, I have no idea what I should say.

Suravi

She can apply for a visitors visa in her own right, there is no need to declare a relationship of any kind. She can list you as an additional funds provider on the application form but you will have to show that you have known her for a reasonable amount of time (usually 6 months is the suggested time period)

The letter of invite should address such things as...where she will stay, a brief outline of what she will be doing, it should also include your financial status and the fact that you will support her for general living, medical, transport etc... You would be wise to include any correspondance, phone bills, photos, your payslips for the last few months etc... to support the application.

She will be applying for a visitor visa.....She cannot work for reward or pay in any form and that includes as a nanny or babysitter.

My question is..........If she is your sons friend then why is it best to keep him out of it? The department are very good at sniffing out the non kosher applications...any hint of suspicion and they will refuse it.

[suravi]

Hoping someone can help me with information on letter of invitation, i am not sure how it should be worded and what should go in it.

My 19 year old son recently met a lovely girl in Thailand while we were on holidays there and we would like her to be able to visit Australia for a while so they could have a chance at a relationship. I get the feeling it would be best if I were to invite her to stay with me and be supported by me while she is here. My son does not live with me and prob best to keep him out of it?

I am a teacher and have a spare room in my house where she could stay.

However, the Thai girl does not have a regular job, although she does hve family in Thailand. Also at present no fixed address, but could use her mothers address?? Any advice on how to word the letter and anything that may improve our chances. Would it help to say she is going to help look after my little daughter in return for her keep. Or better to just say i am supporting her. Would it help to say I was going to help her learn English while she is here? Etc, I have no idea what I should say.

Suravi

She can apply for a visitors visa in her own right, there is no need to declare a relationship of any kind. She can list you as an additional funds provider on the application form but you will have to show that you have known her for a reasonable amount of time (usually 6 months is the suggested time period)

The letter of invite should address such things as...where she will stay, a brief outline of what she will be doing, it should also include your financial status and the fact that you will support her for general living, medical, transport etc... You would be wise to include any correspondance, phone bills, photos, your payslips for the last few months etc... to support the application.

She will be applying for a visitor visa.....She cannot work for reward or pay in any form and that includes as a nanny or babysitter.

My question is..........If she is your sons friend then why is it best to keep him out of it? The department are very good at sniffing out the non kosher applications...any hint of suspicion and they will refuse it.

I just got the impression from browsing some discussions on this site that it might be better if it was not a boyfriend thing. That they may be less likely to think she would be trying to stay here. I suppose I felt there is a general prejudice in the community against these kinds of relationships as they may result in a more permanent situation where she would want to emigrate here. Am i wrong?

I also thought that it may sound more respectable if she were coming here to stay with a family, and as I am a teacher, this may sound as if I am more likely to keep my word, look after her and ensure she goes home when she has to.

Or are my prejudices showing?? Does none of this matter, is it really just luck?

Suravi

[gburns57au]

I just got the impression from browsing some discussions on this site that it might be better if it was not a boyfriend thing. That they may be less likely to think she would be trying to stay here. I suppose I felt there is a general prejudice in the community against these kinds of relationships as they may result in a more permanent situation where she would want to emigrate here. Am i wrong?

I also thought that it may sound more respectable if she were coming here to stay with a family, and as I am a teacher, this may sound as if I am more likely to keep my word, look after her and ensure she goes home when she has to.

Or are my prejudices showing?? Does none of this matter, is it really just luck?

Suravi

To answer your last line first.....Yes.....No.....No

The Department realise full well that when a Thai applies for a visitors visa with an Oz supporting the application then it is likely to be a BF/GF relationship....this is usually not a hindrance to an application. They are only concerned that the applicant has the financial means to visit here without becoming a burden on the taxpayer and that the applicant gives enough assurance that they will not breach the terms of the visa. There is no need to declare any type of relationship when applying for a visitors visa other than an acquaintance.

So your a teacher......I am a Corrections Officer....It means diddley to the Department....If you are acting as the additional funds provider then they are only interested in that you have a job and earn enough to act in that capacity.

There is nothing lucky about gaining a visa to visit Oz......She needs a well presented and complete application.

Edited July 14, 2008 by gburns57au

[britmaveric]

Known only 1 month???

[Mason45]

As long as the male friend can prove that he will support the female by giving her accomodation, food, travel insurance etc they maybe ok but the Australian Immigration is paranoid about young Thai women going to Australia with other intentions. When I first took my girl friend (now wife) to Australia she had nothing but I deposited her air fare in her bank account, a little looks much better than nothing on paper. Anyway years on I cant take my wife back to Australia for a holiday anymore unless she gets a spouse visa, I told the Immigration that we dont want a spouse visa because we want to live in Thailand but I was assured that if we ever want to go to Australia again even for 3-4 weeks my wife must get a spouse visa, even though we've been legally married for 6 years and on 2 prior holidays to OZ my wife never broke any Australian Immigration laws. Also my wife is 52 yo which should be taken into account.

[suravi]

Known only 1 month???

Yes, we met her on holiday. The only way they can get to know each other and spend some time together is if she comes over here. My son has a job and cannot go back there for at least six months, probably a year. She is a lovely girl and regardless of whether the relationship develops between her and Sean, it would be a great experience for her to come here for a visit.

[suravi]

As long as the male friend can prove that he will support the female by giving her accomodation, food, travel insurance etc they maybe ok but the Australian Immigration is paranoid about young Thai women going to Australia with other intentions. When I first took my girl friend (now wife) to Australia she had nothing but I deposited her air fare in her bank account, a little looks much better than nothing on paper. Anyway years on I cant take my wife back to Australia for a holiday anymore unless she gets a spouse visa, I told the Immigration that we dont want a spouse visa because we want to live in Thailand but I was assured that if we ever want to go to Australia again even for 3-4 weeks my wife must get a spouse visa, even though we've been legally married for 6 years and on 2 prior holidays to OZ my wife never broke any Australian Immigration laws. Also my wife is 52 yo which should be taken into account.

Someome on the forum said the decision is made by Thai women in the immigration office, so I presume they are mainly concerned that young women are not coming over here to be placed in a position of dependence where they may be treated badly and also that they are able to return home.

[david96]

As long as the male friend can prove that he will support the female by giving her accomodation, food, travel insurance etc they maybe ok but the Australian Immigration is paranoid about young Thai women going to Australia with other intentions. When I first took my girl friend (now wife) to Australia she had nothing but I deposited her air fare in her bank account, a little looks much better than nothing on paper. Anyway years on I cant take my wife back to Australia for a holiday anymore unless she gets a spouse visa, I told the Immigration that we dont want a spouse visa because we want to live in Thailand but I was assured that if we ever want to go to Australia again even for 3-4 weeks my wife must get a spouse visa, even though we've been legally married for 6 years and on 2 prior holidays to OZ my wife never broke any Australian Immigration laws. Also my wife is 52 yo which should be taken into account.

676 visitors visa to Australia.

An applicant must meet the criteria for the above which includes a reason to return to Thailand.

Evidence you will be able to support yourself while in Australia. If a third party is offering financial support for your visit to Australia, they should provide a signed letter of support including the nature of their relationship to you, type and length of support they intend to provide and evidence of their financial ability to meet this commitment.

If an applicant is refused a 676 visa they will be advised in writing of the reason by DIAC in accordance with the Migration Regulations 1994 and the PAM (Procedures Advice Manual).

In the case of a Thai spouse legally married to an Australian citizen she could supply financial information on her own account or her spouse could supply this information as a third party.

If both spouses are domiciled in Thailand a spouse visa would not be applied for unless you both intended to return to live in Australia permanently.

You should check with DIAC again and get an answer in writing.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

Known only 1 month???

They refuse to listen Brit.