Usa Presidential Preference Poll For Everybody

[Jingthing]

Some specific things you can expect from an Obama administration:

more emphasis on leaving Iraq, more buildup in Afghanistan (maybe even Pakistan)

less war on terror rhetoric, more of an emphasis on counter-terrorism

no more torture by Americans (we are not Nazis!) Closing Guantanamo Bay

reform of the health care access system

increase the cap on the social security tax so that wealthy people pay more, less wealthy pay the same as now

tax cut for the middle class, tax increase for the upper class

at least an attempt rollback of the Bush capital gains/dividend tax breaks (I don't personally like that)

more protectionist policies to attempt to protect American jobs

some kind of amnesty program for long term illegal immigrants who have been working and law abiding

more pressure on Israel to make a better deal with the Palestinians

an aggressive attempt to improve the image of the USA to the world, to repair the considerable damage done

and the most important one of all: he will have SUPREME COURT picks!

Edited July 31, 2008 by Jingthing

[willy1957]

This is not only important for Thailand but for the whole world. The Bush administration has plundered the land and left a social graveyard. It can't get much worse, so people all over the world have big hopes for Obama.But will he be able to clean up the scrap-heap?Today the environment is a big topic, but if Bush had not spend billions of dollars in both wars, there would have been plenty of money to do research for alternative energy.The Oil nations would see a decrease of their power,now Bush made them only richer and more influental on the political scene.Military wars are unproductive, I hope Obama will think like this too...

[whatsoever]

Some specific things you can expect from an Obama administration:

more emphasis on leaving Iraq, more buildup in Afghanistan (maybe even Pakistan)

reform of the health care access system

increase the cap on the social security tax so that wealthy people pay more, less wealthy pay the same as now

tax cut for the middle class, tax increase for the upper class

at least an attempt rollback of the Bush capital gains/dividend tax breaks (I don't personally like that)

more protectionist policies to attempt to protect American jobs

some kind of amnesty program for long term illegal immigrants who have been working and law abiding

more pressure on Israel to make a better deal with the Palestinians

and the most important one of all: he will have SUPREME COURT picks!

Wow - you truely believe this guy will do all this stuff! I wish i was as naive as you - happy, happy, happy, happy talk - talk about things you like to hear

Edited July 31, 2008 by whatsoever

[Jingthing]

If he wins, he will also enjoy the democratic majorities in the house and senate, so yes, I think there is potential to do alot. Not everything of course. And having the power to pick supreme court justices (as the court is so RIGHT WING now) is a good enough reason to vote for him. The biggest problem Obama will have is that thanks to the Bush years, we are broke! No money for a real health care fix. It is sad but true.

Edited July 31, 2008 by Jingthing

[britmaveric]

Jingthing is living in dream land. Nought will change if Osama is elected - slick car salesmen is all Osama is - all image and no substance. Luckily yanks will see Pres McCain.

[whatsoever]

If he wins, he will also enjoy the democratic majorities in the house and senate, so yes, I think there is potential to do alot. Not everything of course. And having the power to pick supreme court justices (as the court is so RIGHT WING now) is a good enough reason to vote for him. The biggest problem Obama will have is that thanks to the Bush years, we are broke! No money for a real health care fix. It is sad but true.

So you say 'we' are broke! However, Mr Hussain will fix things

By the way - when was the last time that an American Presidential candidate done an European tour

[OriginalPoster]

Some specific things you can expect from an Obama administration:

more emphasis on leaving Iraq, more buildup in Afghanistan (maybe even Pakistan)

reform of the health care access system

increase the cap on the social security tax so that wealthy people pay more, less wealthy pay the same as now

tax cut for the middle class, tax increase for the upper class

at least an attempt rollback of the Bush capital gains/dividend tax breaks (I don't personally like that)

more protectionist policies to attempt to protect American jobs

some kind of amnesty program for long term illegal immigrants who have been working and law abiding

more pressure on Israel to make a better deal with the Palestinians

an aggressive attempt to improve the image of the USA to the world, to repair the considerable damage done

and the most important one of all: he will have SUPREME COURT picks!

Moving troops from Iraq to Afganistan and/or Pakistan would not represent a decrease in US militarism.

The economic stuff is fine by me as long as his definition of wealthy does not include my income level but I know how that's going to play out, I've seen that movie before. What I've noticed over the past about 25 years is that when Republicans grant "tax cuts for the wealthy" I get only the token cut that the masses get and that when the Democrats implement "tax increases for the rich" my taxes go up. The US tax system is rigged against the people in the middle and against moderate income people who save money instead of spending beyond their means and borrowing until they are up to their eyeballs in debt. I'm not holding my breath expecting Obama to change that.

Supreme court justices - I agree, that would be a big difference betwen him and Bush or McCain and may have as much of a long term effect as any policies that he should implement, but do you think that the justices that's he'd appoint would be very much different than those that any other democrat candidate would appoint?

Edited July 31, 2008 by OriginalPoster

[Ulysses G.]

no more torture by Americans (we are not Nazis!)

Torture is constantly used all over the world - even though everyone pretends otherwise - including every police station, jail and prison in America. Ever heard of the hole?

If we constantly torture our own citizens, what chance is there that we are not going to torture terrorists when it could prevent the death of thousands of innocents.

[Jingthing]

do you think that the justices that's he'd appoint would be very much different than those that any other democrat candidate would appoint?

I didn't prefer Obama in the primaries but that part is OVER, and yes, each one would probably have a different style in their picks of justices. But any democratic pick is going to be better than a RIGHT WING republican pick.

[whatsoever]

Dear Mr Jingthing,

Is the following just a coincidence

BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

Barrack - Barrack (Edmua) Israely President

Hussein - Hussein (Sadam) Iraqi President

Obama - Osama (Binladen)

Testing the dumbed down sheeples perception - one thinks!!

Edited July 31, 2008 by whatsoever

[Jingthing]

Dear Mr Jingthing,

Is the following just a coincidence

BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

Barrack - Barrack (Edmua) Israely President

Hussein - Hussein (Sadam) Iraqi President

Obama - Osama (Binladen)

Testing the dumbed down sheeples perseption - one thinks!!

I think his name is irrelevant. What are you suggesting, that he is a Muslim plant to destroy America and the west? Oy vey!

[OriginalPoster]

do you think that the justices that's he'd appoint would be very much different than those that any other democrat candidate would appoint?

I didn't prefer Obama in the primaries but that part is OVER, and yes, each one would probably have a different style in their picks of justices. But any democratic pick is going to be better than a RIGHT WING republican pick.

Somehow I would have hoped that the Democratic pick would be someone who was merely better than the Republican candidate. In 2000 and 2004 we were asked to pick between two idiots and, lo and behold, the US elected an idiot. While it's a pity that we didn't elect the lesser idiot in each case, there was a time when the US had truly exceptional people running for president. I can just see the bumper stickers now "Vote Obama, he's less of a fool".

[whatsoever]

Dear Mr Jingthing,

Is the following just a coincidence

BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

Barrack - Barrack (Edmua) Israely President

Hussein - Hussein (Sadam) Iraqi President

Obama - Osama (Binladen)

Testing the dumbed down sheeples perseption - one thinks!!

I think his name is irrelevant. What are you suggesting, that he is a Muslim plant to destroy America and the west? Oy vey!

I suggest nothing my friend - i only make an observation! Which you refute with 'Fox' like ferver

PS Why would he be a plant to destroy the US and Europe - dont you think Mr B has been employed to do just that - Mr O will simply follow the agenda! Different masks - same face; two sides of the same coin; - ok i'll make it simple, two boiled eggs!!

Edited July 31, 2008 by whatsoever

[Jingthing]

Oh, come on.

Obama is not an idiot. He is obviously very bright. But he is also very green. And the second coming he is not.

On the other hand, McCain really is WELL past his prime. The USA needs energy and optimism now, not a constant visual reminder of death and decay. There, I said it, and I mean it.

I suggest nothing my friend - i only make an observation! Which you refute with 'Fox' like ferver huh.gif

You, sir, are just plain SILLY.

Edited July 31, 2008 by Jingthing

[OriginalPoster]

Dear Mr Jingthing,

Is the following just a coincidence

BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

Barrack - Barrack (Edmua) Israely President

Hussein - Hussein (Sadam) Iraqi President

Obama - Osama (Binladen)

Testing the dumbed down sheeples perseption - one thinks!!

I think his name is irrelevant. What are you suggesting, that he is a Muslim plant to destroy America and the west? Oy vey!

I suggest nothing my friend - i only make an observation! Which you refute with 'Fox' like ferver

Actaully Fox seems more inclined to highight the muslim sound of his name than to downplay it.

[britmaveric]

Ask yourself this if Osama was so much better than he'd be trouncing McCain by now - think Kerry had 18% lead at this time. Media projected Kerry to win on election day. We all know how that went. The media is trying its best to elect Osama - this is blatantly obvious to all. Any rate this doesnt bode well for Osama and I think Dems should prepare for 2012, think Hillary already is.

[MonkeyHouse]

Well, looking at all your postings today throughout the forums on TV, somehow I am not surprised by your ramble.

Well thankyou for taking time to read my posts.

[Jingthing]

Ask yourself this if OBama was so much better than he'd be trouncing McCain by now - think Kerry had 18% lead at this time. Media projected Kerry to win on election day. We all know how that went. The media is trying its best to elect Osama - this is blatantly obvious to all. Any rate this doesnt bode well for Osama and I think Dems should prepare for 2012, think Hillary already is.

I agree this election is mainly about, can we trust Obama, a man with such a thin track record. We shall see.

Edited July 31, 2008 by Jingthing

[skipvice]

No mater how you twist this post, it has nothing to do with THAILAND.

[OriginalPoster]

Oh, come on.

Obama is not an idiot. He is obviously very bright. But he is also very green. And the second coming he is not.

On the other hand, McCain really is WELL past his prime. The USA needs energy and optimism now, not a constant visual reminder of death and decay. There, I said it, and I mean it.

Playing the age card didn't work very well against Reagan. The problem with that strategy is that while it resonants with young people, a much larger percentage of old people vote than of young people. People in McCain's age bracket, who tend also to look also like "death and decay", almost all vote. Strangely enough, a lot of old people don't like it when old people are painted as being inept.

Edited July 31, 2008 by OriginalPoster

[whatsoever]

Dear Mr Jingthing,

Is the following just a coincidence

BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

Barrack - Barrack (Edmua) Israely President

Hussein - Hussein (Sadam) Iraqi President

Obama - Osama (Binladen)

Testing the dumbed down sheeples perseption - one thinks!!

I think his name is irrelevant. What are you suggesting, that he is a Muslim plant to destroy America and the west? Oy vey!

I suggest nothing my friend - i only make an observation! Which you refute with 'Fox' like ferver

Actaully Fox seems more inclined to highight the muslim sound of his name than to downplay it.

Would that be - Barack? hussein? or Obama?

Of course Fox will normalize the new face They refute the agenda not the name!

[willy1957]

If he wins, he will also enjoy the democratic majorities in the house and senate, so yes, I think there is potential to do alot. Not everything of course. And having the power to pick supreme court justices (as the court is so RIGHT WING now) is a good enough reason to vote for him. The biggest problem Obama will have is that thanks to the Bush years, we are broke! No money for a real health care fix. It is sad but true.

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Bringing the Bush administration to the court is a must.Bush,Rumsfeld and Cheney have plenty to tell and they know where the wasted money is.Starting wars for their own benefit is a crime, not only to the American Nation but also to the hundredthousands of civilians who get killed,the torturing and other warcrimes beside.Obama starts from point zero...it won't be easy

[Jingthing]

Oh, come on.

Obama is not an idiot. He is obviously very bright. But he is also very green. And the second coming he is not.

On the other hand, McCain really is WELL past his prime. The USA needs energy and optimism now, not a constant visual reminder of death and decay. There, I said it, and I mean it.

Playing the age card didn't work very well against Reagan. The problem with that strategy is that while it resonants with young people, a much larger percentage of old people vote than of young people. People in McCain's age bracket, who tend also to look also like "death and decay", almost all vote. Strangely enough, a lot of old people don't like it when old people are painted as being inept.

Good points, but McCain actually looks and acts much older than first term Reagan, and he is demonstrably more diseased. And people remember that in Reagan's last years he was indeed suffering with Alzheimers. Some older people also think he is too old. They know they feel tired and not 100 percent and correctly guess this old geezer is the same. He isn't all there, it is visible.

Age is a valid and real consideration. Obama may not be too young, but he is arguably too inexperienced. So it goes both ways.

Edited July 31, 2008 by Jingthing

[Steve2UK]

An antidote for those who take the subject so-o-o-o-o seriously:

http://www.jibjab.com/originals/time_for_some_campaignin

Enjoy.

[OriginalPoster]

Dear Mr Jingthing,

Is the following just a coincidence

BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA

Barrack - Barrack (Edmua) Israely President

Hussein - Hussein (Sadam) Iraqi President

Obama - Osama (Binladen)

Testing the dumbed down sheeples perseption - one thinks!!

I think his name is irrelevant. What are you suggesting, that he is a Muslim plant to destroy America and the west? Oy vey!

I suggest nothing my friend - i only make an observation! Which you refute with 'Fox' like ferver

Actaully Fox seems more inclined to highight the muslim sound of his name than to downplay it.

Would that be - Barack? hussein? or Obama?

Of course Fox will normalize the new face They refute the agenda not the name!

There's a few commentators on Fox that go out of there was to refer to him as "Barack Hussein Obama" instead of just "Barack Obama". Granted, a common typo (or Freudian slip) is subsituting "Osama" for "Obama" but by stringing all three name together it really emphasises the sinsiter muslim them. You'll notice that US news outlets sympathetic to Obama (which is nearly all of them except Fox) rarely refer to him by all three names.

Edited July 31, 2008 by OriginalPoster

[Guest Reimar]

This topic isn't Thailand related and therefore closed.

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