Girlfriend Wants To Come To Visit Me

[Siam1973]

Got a text before so i haven't talked to my girlfriend about this yet

It's 4 1/2 months until i return to Thailand in December

Last visit (July 5-20) met girl,fell for her, i would be lying if i said i haven't been thinking of bringing her over to see how it goes in the UK but i was going to wait until Dec before getting into visa's etc.

so, i got a text before saying the usual, i love you, miss you. she has said to me a couple of times '4 months long time for me, i miss you so much', but in this text it says 'i need to stay with you'

well it's got me thinking, why not, worst that can happen is we break up and i loose some money

i am in England now and she is in Si Kui near Korat, ok, now a question

is it possible for her to come to the UK on her own?

what kind of visa,visitor or fiancée would be best?

would she be able to get a visa without a UK sponsor being there when applying for the visa?

any thoughts on my situation appreciated.

[the scouser]

I'm sorry to be blunt, but after having known each other for only a fortnight, your girlfriend doesn't stand a cat-in-hel_l's chance of getting a visa: visit or otherwise.

During the 4.5 months separation, make sure that you keep all of your evidence of contact and perhaps think about applying in Jan/Feb of next year.

Scouse.

[RAZZELL]

I'm sorry to be blunt, but after having known each other for only a fortnight, your girlfriend doesn't stand a cat-in-hel_l's chance of getting a visa: visit or otherwise.

During the 4.5 months separation, make sure that you keep all of your evidence of contact and perhaps think about applying in Jan/Feb of next year.

Scouse.

Listen to the Scouse...The UK visa guru

Unless your gf has serious money, land and property or a decent job, the chances are pretty slim (ie none)

But to offer some hope. Save all record's of correspondence, emails, phone bills, flight stubs, photos, money transfers if applicable etc etc.

Read, the forum. I suggest a search of TV using "UK Visit Visa".

Look on the UK embassy website here:

http://www.britishembassy.gov.uk/servlet/F...d=1065714374894

Then apply in 4 months. It is possible, but maybe unlikey you'll get a visa then.

Good luck

RAZZ

P.S. As I just read your profile and you state she's only 18, reduce that chance to none.

Edited July 31, 2008 by RAZZELL

[Mossfinn]

I suggest a search of TV using "UK Visit Visa".

Just to be a complete pedant and just in case you have not used the search function before, leave out the UK part, the function will not work with a word less than four letters.

[Siam1973]

QUOTE FROM RAZZ

P.S. As I just read your profile and you state she's only 18, reduce that chance to none.

LOL i thought it was a long shot, thanks for the advise, i'll try next year when she's 19

[think_too_mut]

QUOTE FROM RAZZ

P.S. As I just read your profile and you state she's only 18, reduce that chance to none.

LOL i thought it was a long shot, thanks for the advise, i'll try next year when she's 19

Even if you wait another 10 years until she is 29 that time would hardly be enough to accumulate wealth, real estate and good position within some company or institution (i.e. surgeon in a hospital).

Maybe when she is 39?

You'll probably have to explore ways other than her jumping on a plane and heading towards UK as a visitor on her own.

[britmaveric]

No hurry mate, take your time and move very slowly.

[Siam1973]

You'll probably have to explore ways other than her jumping on a plane and heading towards UK as a visitor on her own.

will do, tourist visa isn't looking good, need to know her 6 months before any chance of a visa + no job or bank account, fiancée visa?

No hurry mate, take your time and move very slowly.

thanks for the advise, i listen to all the advise i get, i reckon 8 months minimum if all goes well she could come to the UK, but probably not on a tourist visa

[thaibkk]

technically you could be her DADDY ...

isn't that the kind girl that just waits for the other stupid head over heels farang with puppy love and ask either to send money (sick buffalo story or somekind) or asking to come over to UK with the need to be together ...

and in the meanwhile chatting with 10 other farang that plan to come here on a holliday trip ...

be real... ur 35, she is 18 ...

in the UK its cold, dark, no good good

she will be home sick the second she lands

maybe marry her and end up selling ur assets and giving 50% to her, she will be pleased

[parkerdeano]

Yes she will not like the UK. There is no Thai person here in the UK that likes it. Missing the family is a big thing for the Thais. They only enjoy the money here. Maybe you should go there and enjoy life. My wife came here to the UK when she was only 20, 6 years ago. Think I was lucky though. I hear things are much harder now.

Dean.

[HowardB]

technically you could be her DADDY ...

isn't that the kind girl that just waits for the other stupid head over heels farang with puppy love and ask either to send money (sick buffalo story or somekind) or asking to come over to UK with the need to be together ...

and in the meanwhile chatting with 10 other farang that plan to come here on a holliday trip ...

be real... ur 35, she is 18 ...

in the UK its cold, dark, no good good

she will be home sick the second she lands

maybe marry her and end up selling ur assets and giving 50% to her, she will be pleased

I have to agree in some aspects of Thaibkk ..... I think you're experiencing what most farang feel after visitng Thailand. Lets face it .... Thailand is a huge head-f ......

I was lucky to meet a girl online and not in a bar and chatted to her for many month before visiting her. She is currently staying with me now in Australia and we plan to marry in Thailand in November. As for Thai ladies in UK, my brother has a wonderful Thai wife and is exremely happy. Seems some Thai people can adapt.

As for you age difference ..... i'm 52 and my gf is 32 ..... no problem for either of us .... even though, yes, she is young enough to be my daughter.

[poshthai]

i know many thai bar girls who regularly go on internet sites to earn more money and meet farangs

i know a few thai girls who work in sleazy karaoke bars taking care of thai guys who go on the internet

[britmaveric]

Maybe genuine or maybe not only the OP knows. This is why he should be very careful and be in no rush. Quick/rash decisions normally cause regret later.

[think_too_mut]

i know many thai bar girls who regularly go on internet sites to earn more money and meet farangs

i know a few thai girls who work in sleazy karaoke bars taking care of thai guys who go on the internet

Really?

Bar girls can hardly compose a sentence in their own language.

Them going the Internet?

Some might, with assistance.

[Sturbuc]

I'm sorry to be blunt, but after having known each other for only a fortnight, your girlfriend doesn't stand a cat-in-hel_l's chance of getting a visa: visit or otherwise.

During the 4.5 months separation, make sure that you keep all of your evidence of contact and perhaps think about applying in Jan/Feb of next year.

Scouse.

Well, me and my Thai girlfirend we had such an annoying experience when she'd been applying for a Schengen-Visa (multiple entry!) years before. The biggest mistake was to have her visiting the embassy by her own. In the interview she must have said something like "maybe marry" and after she could not "improve her will to return to Thailand", the Visa was refused.

She was told to improve her economic state in Thailand; since the she tries to have her employer put the money on her bank account every month (no cash; or she put's it on the account herself) to improve she's got a job in Thailand. And she'd bought a piece of Land. She's got 2 children from a Thai she was married before but this didn't help as the grandmother was taking care of them. Not easy so at the second trial she's got a 4 weeks Visa; and after improving she's coming back now it's not a problem anymore to have her here for holidays (up to 90 days, than wait for 90 days, and again...)

You must be aware that positively NO EMPLOYMENT is allowed and this might be checked. Means for you to cover all expenses and maybe some of the costs she can't pay herself in Thailand while she's on hoidays. Think and if you're sure, don't hesitate it's better to have her seen the all-days-guy and all the circumstances before making another decision.

Edited August 4, 2008 by Sturbuc

[barryofthailand]

The legal age in Thailand is 20 yrs old. Since your girl friend is only 18, I don't think she can get a visa to the UK or for that matter anywhere. sorry. When men are twice the age of the young ladies, it's almost impossible to obtain a visa.

Barry

[Chaimai]

i know many thai bar girls who regularly go on internet sites to earn more money and meet farangs

i know a few thai girls who work in sleazy karaoke bars taking care of thai guys who go on the internet

Really?

Bar girls can hardly compose a sentence in their own language.

Them going the Internet?

Some might, with assistance.

Actually, you can hardly find a seat in a Pattaya Klang internet cafe because of these diminutive creatures.

[Siam1973]

The legal age in Thailand is 20 yrs old. Since your girl friend is only 18, I don't think she can get a visa to the UK or for that matter anywhere. sorry. When men are twice the age of the young ladies, it's almost impossible to obtain a visa.

Barry

i read about this the other night after posting this topic, 20 yrs old is considered a minor but they can still get a visa with parental consent ie. letter. Yet 18 in the UK you are classed as an adult, different country different law.

please correct me if i am wrong

[think_too_mut]

i know many thai bar girls who regularly go on internet sites to earn more money and meet farangs

i know a few thai girls who work in sleazy karaoke bars taking care of thai guys who go on the internet

Really?

Bar girls can hardly compose a sentence in their own language.

Them going the Internet?

Some might, with assistance.

Actually, you can hardly find a seat in a Pattaya Klang internet cafe because of these diminutive creatures.

You are right, that's how it was before but the real change came with the cheap broadband, web cams and chats in cafees.

5 years ago, when it was all emails, they would write on paper in Thai to cafee crew who would translate and email to given addresses, usually about 2am.

Now, they can talk, as little as they know, and adjust as the "conversation" is going, even in English at "you friend me I friend you" level.

Still, now and 5 years ago, no way they could compose an email in English of any meaning other than blatant demands "no have money, you send money, OK?".

For "relationship like" emails, others had to write for them , for money (20-40 baht) per email.

[kiakaha]

Got a text before so i haven't talked to my girlfriend about this yet

It's 4 1/2 months until i return to Thailand in December

Last visit (July 5-20) met girl,fell for her, i would be lying if i said i haven't been thinking of bringing her over to see how it goes in the UK but i was going to wait until Dec before getting into visa's etc.

so, i got a text before saying the usual, i love you, miss you. she has said to me a couple of times '4 months long time for me, i miss you so much', but in this text it says 'i need to stay with you'

well it's got me thinking, why not, worst that can happen is we break up and i loose some money

i am in England now and she is in Si Kui near Korat, ok, now a question

is it possible for her to come to the UK on her own?

what kind of visa,visitor or fiancée would be best?

would she be able to get a visa without a UK sponsor being there when applying for the visa?

any thoughts on my situation appreciated.

what is the female in questions background ? Managing Director of IBM Thailand ? Street Vendor ? Phd from MIT in Robotics ? Freelancer(whether you know it or not) ?

some thai females can travel independently anywhere with ease, for others it may be more difficult.

[pumpuiman]

Your best chance for a visa would probably have to be a fiance visa. This requires a lot of evidence of your relationship (I know, I did it)

Listen to the other's ...take it slow, but save every scrap of information concerning your relationship. Receipts,plane ticket stubs, phone bills, money transfers etc.

Save your e-mails....send some just for evidence every so often...the more the better.

Take photo's of the two of you together...lots of them. Take photo's with her family as well.

She should have evidence of regular employment, and evidence of weekly deposits to her bank..as if from a paycheck.

If your serious...or think you may be...researching the requirements for the fiance visa would be a good idea. The sooner you understand whats needed, the easier it will be to put it together in the future.

Good luck

Eric

[Maizefarmer]

Actually - clearance officers at embassies are no fools: they know just about every time when they are dealing with visa applications from ladies from "bright lights" backgrounds - they deal with them day in, day out. Believe me - they've heard it all before a thousand times and know "make-up" and "creative rebranding" when they see it.

It's all about the relationship and risk - so long as the sponsor and the applicant can satisfy the clearance officer your lady friend is unlikely to abuse her visitors visa (i.e. will not get into trouble, "work" or stay longer than they should), chances are it'll be issued.

Edited August 7, 2008 by Maizefarmer

[Chaimai]

Now, they can talk, as little as they know, and adjust as the "conversation" is going, even in English at "you friend me I friend you" level.

Still, now and 5 years ago, no way they could compose an email in English of any meaning other than blatant demands "no have money, you send money, OK?".

For "relationship like" emails, others had to write for them , for money (20-40 baht) per email.

I agree - I think wecam has made the big difference because "conversations" can taking place as above. No doubt the Falang is talking for 5 minutes about the weather back home, how hard he is working for their future, about the sights he will show her when she visits his country - her part of the "conversation" remains "Ah ah, ah ah, hmm, yes - miss you too.....send money"

[Siam1973]

Thanks for the advise bm's

The chances of getting a tourist visa i know are slim, a fiancée visa may be easier to get but i don't think i would be ready for that so soon, the advise is take it slowly, so i will.

If and when there is a visa application i think it best to try a tourist visa first although there is only a very slim chance of getting it, so i should be able to gauge from that what chances there are of getting one in the future and what is needed to change, plus i would loose only a little money, if and when it is refused. Next year if all goes well a fiancée visa may be the way, it costs more £515 compared to £65 for a tourist visa but that would depend on the relationship at the time.

I wouldn't want a visa form filled in with a pack of lies, i read that if found out, there could be a 10 year ban on the applicant re-applying.

From reading on Thai Visa if she tried for a 6 months visa she would not necessarily get 6 months, possibly 2-4 weeks if its the first time she's left the country, i was hoping for at least 3 months but beggars cant be choosers.

I have thought about agencies, some advise it some don't, £400 to help prepare for a tourist visa and have mock interviews seems a bit steep but quite a few people use them. Does it make a difference to the application if the embassy know an agency has been used?, there is a question on the form somewhere about using an agent, or is there someone out there who knows the In's and out's of the visa system we could meet in December to run through the application?

thanks for the advise

p.s. keep it coming please, good advise, remarks and flaming welcome.

[Lickey]

I found my TG on the net, i came here in dec 2005 for 10 days, and of course fell in love, to cement the relationship i wanted her to live with me in the UK, when i was in UK, i printed off 2 sets of visitor visa app forms, 1 set i put in all my details so she could copy, and of course all the other revelant stuff like bank statements,house ownership,ect.

In the reason for visit section i put to repay the kindness of my visit to her, and her reason to return was her 2 nearly adult kids and her salon buisness, she was granted the visa and stayed in uk for near 6 months, I sold up in UK and live in Thai now,

Make sure this girl in genuine in her feelings for you and not just a holiday ticket to the uk, it could be worth 64 quid for an application and see what they refuse it on, then you could if possible amend the problems and re-apply, you could use an agency and pay a lot of money for the same result...

Good luck with whatever you decide, rgs Lickey,,

[Siam1973]

i think the refusal would be 'reason to return', having no kids and job is going to be a big problem if its not addressed in the near future.

i filled a form out on the web for an agency and a guy phoned me the next night, i must stress it was no link to anyone on this site(UK firm), he told me if she knows a family member with a business they can get a letter of employment, permission to have a vacation and their job secure for return even if they have not worked there.

sounds a bit dodgy, but i could understand people doing that when all else fails

best sticking to the truth...

[thaikahuna]

I'm sorry to be blunt, but after having known each other for only a fortnight, your girlfriend doesn't stand a cat-in-hel_l's chance of getting a visa: visit or otherwise.

During the 4.5 months separation, make sure that you keep all of your evidence of contact and perhaps think about applying in Jan/Feb of next year.

Scouse.

I must concur and add too that to know if it will really work too is to bring her over and let her freeze her a$$ off for the winter. If she survives that and still wants to go may be she wants you and your ATM card.

[summers]

Your best chance for a visa would probably have to be a fiance visa. This requires a lot of evidence of your relationship (I know, I did it)

Listen to the other's ...take it slow, but save every scrap of information concerning your relationship. Receipts,plane ticket stubs, phone bills, money transfers etc.

Save your e-mails....send some just for evidence every so often...the more the better.

Take photo's of the two of you together...lots of them. Take photo's with her family as well.

She should have evidence of regular employment, and evidence of weekly deposits to her bank..as if from a paycheck.

If your serious...or think you may be...researching the requirements for the fiance visa would be a good idea. The sooner you understand whats needed, the easier it will be to put it together in the future.

Good luck

Eric

Also check with local folks in the "business", in BKK, Brian at mythaifiance.com is a respectable businessman knowledgeable in these things. ThaiVisa may also give good advice.

[fred2007]

Your best chance for a visa would probably have to be a fiance visa. This requires a lot of evidence of your relationship (I know, I did it)

Listen to the other's ...take it slow, but save every scrap of information concerning your relationship. Receipts,plane ticket stubs, phone bills, money transfers etc.

Save your e-mails....send some just for evidence every so often...the more the better.

Take photo's of the two of you together...lots of them. Take photo's with her family as well.

She should have evidence of regular employment, and evidence of weekly deposits to her bank..as if from a paycheck.

If your serious...or think you may be...researching the requirements for the fiance visa would be a good idea. The sooner you understand whats needed, the easier it will be to put it together in the future.

Good luck

Eric

You are absolutely right about the fiance' visa I did it my self as well as you said keep

every e-mail,letters photos phone bills and so on. But be aware if you apply for that visa you need to get married to her ( in my case 9 month) or she can be deported again

[mrbojangles]

in the UK its cold, dark, no good good

she will be home sick the second she lands

I think most people would get homesick, no matter where they go. However, in the main, as long as Thai's can get their food, they seem to adjust pretty well.

My Mrs has several friends in the UK who aren't interested in going back to Thailand, even on holiday. I now work and live in Saudi and i asked my mrs what she wanted to do until her visa to join me came through. She could either go back to Thailand and wait there or stay in the UK. She has a good set of friends and get's all the Thai food she needs. She has stayed in the UK.