Thai Visa From Laos

[stevespiral]

Hi All,

Thought some of you might like to know I have just managed to get a 1 year visa for Thailand from Laos without any documents. I had to pay 40,000 Baht but I consider that a bargain as it now means I do not have the worry, travel and cost of frequent visa runs which I have had to do over the past few years. I was also told it could have been done for about 15,000 if I had the relevant paperwork.

If anybody would like the contact details of the man that did it for me, I will be happy to help. All good for my Karma.

[dudemeister]

Very interested here! What documents needed? Where do i go in Laos?

I have just posted a new topic, but maybe you can answer my query:

(I am 48 years old, UK Citizen, Thai GF - 3 years, with own house)

Is the following theoretically possible?

1. Enter Thailand on a 30 day entry stamp.

2. Marry the Thai girlfriend. (local Thai ceremony).

3. Register the marriage at District Office.

4. Apply at BKK Immigration for 1 year extension of stay

(including: satisfying the monthy/yearly income requirements, and any other necessities)

5. Annual visits to Immigration for further yearly extensions.

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6. Reach 50 years old, but not bother with the retirement visa option, as it requires a larger monthly income.

Can this all be achieved without ever having to leave the Kingdom?

[stevespiral]

Very interested here! What documents needed? Where do i go in Laos?

I have just posted a new topic, but maybe you can answer my query:

(I am 48 years old, UK Citizen, Thai GF - 3 years, with own house)

Is the following theoretically possible?

1. Enter Thailand on a 30 day entry stamp.

2. Marry the Thai girlfriend. (local Thai ceremony).

3. Register the marriage at District Office.

4. Apply at BKK Immigration for 1 year extension of stay

(including: satisfying the monthy/yearly income requirements, and any other necessities)

5. Annual visits to Immigration for further yearly extensions.

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6. Reach 50 years old, but not bother with the retirement visa option, as it requires a larger monthly income.

Can this all be achieved without ever having to leave the Kingdom?

To be honest I am not sure of the procedure in Thailand for marriage visas, sounds possible but maybe more expensive and for sure more trouble. I did not want to marry just to get a legal status in Thailand, as I didn't want the other problems a marriage can sometimes make (land ownership issues and family obligations to become their unofficial white sponsor). If you want to use the service I used, I have sent you a message with the bloke's phone number.... You will have to go to Laos to do the visa tho. It will buy you 1 year to decide on your options if nothing else. I did it with just my passport and no supporting docs... got a non imm B for 1 year.

Cheers, Steve

Edited September 11, 2008 by stevespiral

[dudemeister]

Never been to Laos yet, did you get it all done at the border or into town ?

[Lite Beer]

Hi All,

Thought some of you might like to know I have just managed to get a 1 year visa for Thailand from Laos without any documents. I had to pay 40,000 Baht but I consider that a bargain as it now means I do not have the worry, travel and cost of frequent visa runs which I have had to do over the past few years. I was also told it could have been done for about 15,000 if I had the relevant paperwork.

If anybody would like the contact details of the man that did it for me, I will be happy to help. All good for my Karma.

What Visa and on what grounds.

Clearly illegal

Whatever, you would still have to do border runs with a visa from Laos.

Edited September 11, 2008 by Lite Beer

[NHJ]

<br />Hi All,<br />Thought some of you might like to know I have just managed to get a 1 year visa for Thailand from Laos <b>without any documents</b>. I had to pay 40,000 Baht but I consider that a bargain as it now means I do not have the worry, travel and cost of frequent visa runs which I have had to do over the past few years. I was also told it could have been done for about 15,000 if I had the relevant paperwork.<br />If anybody would like the contact details of the man that did it for me, I will be happy to help. All good for my Karma. <img src="style_emoticons/default/smile.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid="" border="0" alt="smile.gif" /><br />

you' ve been ripped off and worst thing you seem to be happy with the fact

a year visa costs 5500 but does only allow you to stay 90 days, so visa run is for you every 3 month.

non 0-A gives you a year of allowed stay, this is the only one that does allow this and you'll have to visit immigration every 90 days.

the non O-A visa does require very few documents and is easy to obtain(need to be 50 years old).

i would recommend everyone to stay away of those false bargains, asking for a visa is an official act, copies of passeport, signatures, by doing this you certify the documents you submit are true, if not you can be sued for using illegal documents, entering the country based on false papers etc etc...

Edited September 11, 2008 by NHJ

[Lite Beer]

. I had to pay 40,000 Baht but I consider that a bargain as it now means I do not have the worry, travel and cost of frequent visa runs which I have had to do over the past few years.

As you say that you are living with your Laos Wife in Singapore. Why do you need a Thai Visa and how have you been doing frequent Visa Runs over the last few years?

[Gumballl]

you' ve been ripped off and worst thing you seem to be happy with the fact

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I agree! I can't wait to hear how this thread turns out. Right now I am impatiently waiting for the OP to respond.

[stevespiral]

you' ve been ripped off and worst thing you seem to be happy with the fact

a year visa costs 5500 but does only allow you to stay 90 days, so visa run is for you every 3 month.

non 0-A gives you a year of allowed stay, this is the only one that does allow this and you'll have to visit immigration every 90 days.

the non O-A visa does require very few documents and is easy to obtain(need to be 50 years old).

I would recommend everyone to stay away of those false bargains, asking for a visa is an official act, copies of passeport, signatures, by doing this you certify the documents you submit are true, if not you can be sued for using illegal documents, entering the country based on false papers etc etc...

Yes you are correct, I do need to leave and Re-enter every 90 days, you are also correct that the price of a non-B is around 5,500 Baht, and you are correct a third time saying I am happy with the service..... I am self employed in Thailand, I do not have a company registered here and therefore paperwork for non-B was not easy to obtain for me.

I made a statement hoping that it may be of help to others, but I fully understand by your comments that helping others is concept that could well be alien to you.

I stated my situation clearly in the post, the lack of paperwork, and yes I understand that the legality of the transaction may be questionable..... Bit like bribing the police every time you get stopped on the road, or not paying tax when you sell you telecommunications company to Singapore.

I apologize for posting information which I hoped maybe helpful to others in a similar situation to myself.

[stevespiral]

. I had to pay 40,000 Baht but I consider that a bargain as it now means I do not have the worry, travel and cost of frequent visa runs which I have had to do over the past few years.

As you say that you are living with your Laos Wife in Singapore. Why do you need a Thai Visa and how have you been doing frequent Visa Runs over the last few years?

Ok..... I see where this is going

Did you happen to notice when my profile on this board was last updated??? Obviously not. Yes I was living in Singapore with my Lao wife until late 2006, after which time we moved back to Thailand. Once again you are correct. HAVE A GOLD STAR...

does that answer you ??????

[Lite Beer]

. I had to pay 40,000 Baht but I consider that a bargain as it now means I do not have the worry, travel and cost of frequent visa runs which I have had to do over the past few years.

As you say that you are living with your Laos Wife in Singapore. Why do you need a Thai Visa and how have you been doing frequent Visa Runs over the last few years?

Ok..... I see where this is going

Did you happen to notice when my profile on this board was last updated??? Obviously not. Yes I was living in Singapore with my Lao wife until late 2006, after which time we moved back to Thailand. Once again you are correct. HAVE A GOLD STAR...

does that answer you ??????

Actually it was one of your post. But that was probably from 2006 as well.

That's my first ever Gold Star on TV. Thanks.

[Maestro]

...Thought some of you might like to know I have just managed to get a 1 year visa for Thailand from Laos without any documents...

...I did it with just my passport and no supporting docs... got a non imm B for 1 year...

...I do need to leave and Re-enter every 90 days... I am self employed in Thailand, I do not have a company registered here and therefore paperwork for non-B was not easy to obtain for me.

I see a contradiction between your statement “I did it with just my passport and no supporting docs” and your later statement “paperwork for non-B was not easy to obtain for me”. With the second statement you are saying that supporting documents (paperwork) were in fact obtained for you but that it was not easy to obtain them.

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Maestro

[dudemeister]

I read it different:

Maybe the poster is stating to obtain documents for non-B is very difficult (to satisfy them say down at Bangkok Immigration)

but at Laos/Thailand border, and a bit of, wink-wink, how's your father, - $$$$$$ - ch-ching-ching -

- and the non-B has miraculously appeared on his passport - without any supporting docs.

Then again - i could be totally confused - but thats me normally.

[NHJ]

Then again - i could be totally confused - but thats me normally.

he says he's selfemployed without a company so no paper is available for him.

when you do the calculation with the double entry visa in laos (2200 bath) the visa entry (1000) the bus (1000 bath) and the accomodation +meal (1500 bath for the two days).

you arrive around 6000 bath for 6 month so 12000 for a year and you stay completely legal regarding your visa application, of course working without the appropriate requirement stay forbidden and illegal.

12000 bath(legal all including) vs 40000 bath(illegal and without the accomodation or travel costs)....

[dudemeister]

Yes. NHJ talks about 2 times a double-entry tourist visa, 30-day extension of stay with each entry. This makes a total of 360 days, perhaps four days less. Two trips to Vientiane to get the visas, two border runs to activate the second entry of each visa, four extensions of stay.

But why do it the easy and straight-forward way if there is a complicated and expensive way? However, before talking about “wink-wink” we should perhaps wait for the OP to give us the details. Most of what he’s written so far in this thread is somewhat cryptic.

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Maestro

[Maestro]

Apologies, Dudemeister. By mistake I used the edit funtion to write my reply instead of making a new post.

Note: Dudemeister had asked if it was possible to get one year, perfectly legally, using two double-entry tourist visas and doing visa runs.

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Maestro

[Maestro]

I did the calculation in a spreadsheet and the attached PDF file shows that if, for example, the first entry with the first double-entry tourist visa were made today one would get at total of 358 days out of the two double-entry tourist visas.

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Maestro

20080911_tourist_visa_calculation.pdf

Edited September 11, 2008 by Maestro
corrected total of days

[tropo]

Then again - i could be totally confused - but thats me normally.

he says he's selfemployed without a company so no paper is available for him.

when you do the calculation with the double entry visa in laos (2200 bath) the visa entry (1000) the bus (1000 bath) and the accomodation +meal (1500 bath for the two days).

you arrive around 6000 bath for 6 month so 12000 for a year and you stay completely legal regarding your visa application, of course working without the appropriate requirement stay forbidden and illegal.

12000 bath(legal all including) vs 40000 bath(illegal and without the accomodation or travel costs)....

Let's at least be fair on a comparison of costs.

Not all of us will take the bus so you could add at least 5000 baht there for 2 return airfares to Udon (including transfers to and from Udon Thani airport). Some prefer to fly all the way to Vientiane which costs a lot more. If you live in Pattaya for example, I'd also have to add the price of an airport taxi x 2 - add 4000 again. A lot of us spend a lot more on food and accommodation so add at least another 3000 for 2 runs.

You also failed to mention 4 visa extensions at 1,900 baht a piece, so add another 7,600 there.

so...adding 5000 + 4000 + 3000 + 7,600 = 19,600 to your 12,000 and I get 31,600 for the year. The price difference is a lot less than you think.

Don't forget that a one year Non-B visa will also be good for 15 months if you do a border run on the last day and as a multiple entry visa it would be very flexible for people who prefer to come and go without restrictions and it's not looking too bad at all.

Sign me up for one!

Edited September 11, 2008 by tropo

[dr_Pat_Pong]

It might help some but it is unlawful. Given that such deals are illegal, and given the Thai Authorities read this website intensely, I now close it.

[Thaddeus]

Better close it then Doc

[Lite Beer]

Errr.