Pm Somchai Will Not Resign

[jdinasia]

It looks like all the Falangs on this thread are Pro PAD.

No, I'm not.

They, PPP and PAD, are both extreme parties and both are not Farrang or even human friendly at all.

The only point they do not agree about is, who should run (ruin) the country.

Anyway this country is run by the Chinese not the Thai, that's for sure.

Most of those in parlement have less Thai DNA, after many generations, than my children with my Thai wife.

They just use the old technic that worked all over the world, you keep them poor (religion) and I keep them stupid (education).

Care to offer some proof for these claims?

[h90]

PAD supporters are not paid....telling these lies again and again does not make it true

The going rate is 400+ baht per day as I have been told by part time PAD-protesters.

which is a blank lie as many time proofed.

We know at least 100 PAD people from poor to rich, 24/7 there are just sometimes, from North, South, East, Central and everyone want to know where to pick up the money. I guess they would even give you half if you can tell them where to pick it up, as they are there since month that is a huge amount.

[h90]

I believe the PAD to be worse. It's very simple IMO, the PAD clearly espouses fascist ideology.

PPP get dissolved for vote buying, so they didn't got elected....

And calling the PAD fascists just shows clearly that you didn't look into the details of the acting persons. Would say there are more very left one than right wing.

And you clearly know nothing about politics. Fascism is not a left/right movement. But let's be fair, and say they are clearly a Totalitarian movement.

So the PAD are a fascist totalitarian movement, whereas the TRT/PPP/DAAD merely gas people or blow their limbs off, on the streets of Bangkok. That's a very subtle difference, so narrow in my opinion, as to be invisible.

Thaksin is the one who is acting like a totalitarian facist.

He is doing his best to control the country as he wants it,

even though he is definitely not elected now.

He was the one attempting control the country like a facisist

THAT is what brought on the coup.

No matter coup or not his term would be over now,

his party dissolved for electoral malfeasance

He is banned fir 5 years.

most of his family and friends are also banned.

He has 5 legal cases to answer for from an independent judiciary.

But his proxy government is trying to rewrite the constitution

to allow him to get off scott free and come back and take over again.

Says it all, really.

And I too find the strength of the Baht very difficult to understand, the BoT must be buying Baht like crazy to keep it so strong, with mobs (of both sides) on the streets & a potential border-war flaring up. On whose instructions ? Well the government takes its orders from London, where there is a certain person, who still hopes to change a large sum of Baht into foreign-currencies, probably Bahamian going by his latest rumoured passport.

In a few months time, when the Baht slumps and the BoT & country lose-out, remember whose interests were being served.

Not sure, watch the European and US, Japanese news. Maybe the Baht is falling fast, but all the others as well, so relative everything remains the same...

THE BAHT IS FALLING FAST ???!!! ... we are not watching the same screen !

22 to the AUD

46 to the EUR

34.10 to the USD

what fundamentals has thailand (except their exceptionnal transparent governance...) to maintain this ?? very strange indeed

yes Euro and USD are falling even faster.....

[bangkokrick]

How can he refuse to stand down if he has benn found guilty of breaking the law. Does anyone understand this? Did Samak have the same option?

Cheers, Rick

Well if your so on top of it, tell us the legal process to be followed here. Maybe you could have a legal and/or constitutional lawyer explain the exact process. It appears all the naysayers say getout or resign, but what are the PM's right in this case! They would apply in any other country!

It was a question not a statement hence the ???? Does anyone have the answer because it has been stated by the politicians and the media that he must stand down. By the way i support neither side as i am a foreigner and we have no influence over matters Thai.

Cheers, Rick

[jdinasia]

Rick .... so far he has not been convicted of a crime that disqualifies him from being PM.

The statements that he must step down are really suggestions because he is 100% ineffective and has no power to do his job (the military won't support him and he is not only PM but also Defense Minister)

[bangkokrick]

The ironic humour that you are looking for lies in the fact that the people from the North East who are supporting the PAD will do so and lose their right to vote under the proposed PAD new politics.

That is democracy for you.

That is factually incorrect, or simply speaking, is plain old bullshit.

Some people interpret "democracy" as "whatever crap I make up on the spot deserves equal rights and respect", hope you are not one of them, you just been duped into believing what you said there.

>>>>

The EC has ruled that PPP commited serious electoral fraud and needs to be dissolved as a punishment. According to the laws, the Constitutional Court will have to deliver the final verdict on the issue.

The EC has endorsed PPP's victory for the lack of other legal options at that time, but the victory was, and still is, under judicial review.

A person or party is guilty from the moment the crime was commited, though legal process presumes he is innocent until final ruling.

If you take an example of some killer preparing for a trial - people might still argue if he really killed someone or not and proseution got everything wrong, but no one but his lawyers would go around proclaiming his innocence outright. In PPP's case even the staunch defenders don't deny that crime has been committed, what we are waiting for is "sentencing trial", the guilt itself is beyond doubt.

That's why JD can't accept "PPP won the elections" call.

There are four parties in parlament who are not under the threat of dissolution, so "everyone cheats" argument is extremely lame one. Yes, just like everyone passes a 100 baht not to a trafic cop every now and then, doesn't mean that all killers and robbers should be let scott free, because "justice is unfair - they don't punish everyone".

The new politics are very real for the PAD and not bullshit. The fact that the educated HISO'S will choose the majority of the Government ministers was stated by the PAD leaders 70/30 as i remember. If this situation has changed please outline the changes so that we can all understand just exactly what is meant by this.

I would guess that many of the people at Government house don't really know why they are there and what they are supporting. They just want to bring down the present Government, but they don't know what they will get in it's place.

I hear many more farang discussing Thai politics than Thais which i find quite interesting as the farang can do nothing to affect the outcome.

Cheers, Rick

Cheers, Rick

[bangkokrick]

Rick .... so far he has not been convicted of a crime that disqualifies him from being PM.

The statements that he must step down are really suggestions because he is 100% ineffective and has no power to do his job (the military won't support him and he is not only PM but also Defense Minister)

Hi JDinasia

Thanks for the clarification. There seems to be so many conflicting reports and opinions that it's difficult to keep up with the game. I suppose it depends on as to which newspaper one reads.

Cheers, Rick

[jdinasia]

Rick ...

PAD's "New Politics" does not seem to be a deal breaker for anything, it is an idea they are pushing to include groups of people as voting blocks.

As far as the call for the PM to resign it does not matter what paper you read unless you cannot distinguish between news and editorials. The calls for his resignation by groups of senators, by the heads of the military, by the PAD, by other groups are news ....

The calls for his resignation by any one person in the editorial pages are editorial content (and carry all the weight of a blogger calling for the PM's resignation other than the editorial in question may in fact be the opinion/editorial of a given newspaper/media outlet)

[Rajah]

PAD supporters are not paid....telling these lies again and again does not make it true

The going rate is 400+ baht per day as I have been told by part time PAD-protesters.

which is a blank lie as many time proofed.

We know at least 100 PAD people from poor to rich, 24/7 there are just sometimes, from North, South, East, Central and everyone want to know where to pick up the money. I guess they would even give you half if you can tell them where to pick it up, as they are there since month that is a huge amount.

Well, tell them to go for a free PAD meal at government house and let them have a look under the plate.

[jdinasia]

PAD supporters are not paid....telling these lies again and again does not make it true

The going rate is 400+ baht per day as I have been told by part time PAD-protesters.

which is a blank lie as many time proofed.

We know at least 100 PAD people from poor to rich, 24/7 there are just sometimes, from North, South, East, Central and everyone want to know where to pick up the money. I guess they would even give you half if you can tell them where to pick it up, as they are there since month that is a huge amount.

Well, tell them to go for a free PAD meal at government house and let them have a look under the plate.

Can you please go and take some pictures of this? You could probably sell them to the media if they could be authenticated!

[h90]

PAD supporters are not paid....telling these lies again and again does not make it true

The going rate is 400+ baht per day as I have been told by part time PAD-protesters.

which is a blank lie as many time proofed.

We know at least 100 PAD people from poor to rich, 24/7 there are just sometimes, from North, South, East, Central and everyone want to know where to pick up the money. I guess they would even give you half if you can tell them where to pick it up, as they are there since month that is a huge amount.

Well, tell them to go for a free PAD meal at government house and let them have a look under the plate.

Hahahaha that's nonsense. They did already....

Either you believe every nonsense someone is telling you or you simply lie. Go there and have a look the way they hand out the food. neither under the banana leaves nor under the plastic cups is something. As well no one we know ever found some money in/at/under the food.

[hammered]

So how long do people give little Somchai?

The Human Rights commision have publically blamed the government today. That on top of the words of the independent Khunying Pornthip. It will be very hard for Somchai's committee to come up with something different from these independent voices.

[jdinasia]

He's outlasted my prediction already ... thanks to a border clash Hun Sen set up.

[hammered]

PAD supporters are not paid....telling these lies again and again does not make it true

The going rate is 400+ baht per day as I have been told by part time PAD-protesters.

which is a blank lie as many time proofed.

We know at least 100 PAD people from poor to rich, 24/7 there are just sometimes, from North, South, East, Central and everyone want to know where to pick up the money. I guess they would even give you half if you can tell them where to pick it up, as they are there since month that is a huge amount.

Well, tell them to go for a free PAD meal at government house and let them have a look under the plate.

Hahahaha that's nonsense. They did already....

Either you believe every nonsense someone is telling you or you simply lie. Go there and have a look the way they hand out the food. neither under the banana leaves nor under the plastic cups is something. As well no one we know ever found some money in/at/under the food.

Now now H90 be careful we all know a bunch of judges found a little extra in their candy box.... Oh no wait a minute that wasnt the PAD that was Thaksins lawyers.

Now now we better not mention the case of the UDD men in the North who switched sides to become unpaid PAD supporters after they didnt receive what they were promised for presentuing flowers to the police to say thank you for killing PAD.

Oh no wait a moment wasnt there story about how payslips were found for demonstrators...... Oh no that was the well organised pro-government bussed in boys who had been told they were gpoing to a non-political event

Persoanlly I reckon some PAD do get some dosh but there is little to no evidence this is widespread.

[hammered]

He's outlasted my prediction already ... thanks to a border clash Hun Sen set up.

That story is going round very rapidly now. If it is true it is a new low.

[h90]

PAD supporters are not paid....telling these lies again and again does not make it true

The going rate is 400+ baht per day as I have been told by part time PAD-protesters.

which is a blank lie as many time proofed.

We know at least 100 PAD people from poor to rich, 24/7 there are just sometimes, from North, South, East, Central and everyone want to know where to pick up the money. I guess they would even give you half if you can tell them where to pick it up, as they are there since month that is a huge amount.

Well, tell them to go for a free PAD meal at government house and let them have a look under the plate.

Hahahaha that's nonsense. They did already....

Either you believe every nonsense someone is telling you or you simply lie. Go there and have a look the way they hand out the food. neither under the banana leaves nor under the plastic cups is something. As well no one we know ever found some money in/at/under the food.

Now now H90 be careful we all know a bunch of judges found a little extra in their candy box.... Oh no wait a minute that wasnt the PAD that was Thaksins lawyers.

Now now we better not mention the case of the UDD men in the North who switched sides to become unpaid PAD supporters after they didnt receive what they were promised for presentuing flowers to the police to say thank you for killing PAD.

Oh no wait a moment wasnt there story about how payslips were found for demonstrators...... Oh no that was the well organised pro-government bussed in boys who had been told they were gpoing to a non-political event

Persoanlly I reckon some PAD do get some dosh but there is little to no evidence this is widespread.

If someone get money, than in a private manner, like when there critical things my staff wanted to go and I let them go without cutting their salary.

Or someone wants to go and some friend or relative helps the family who does not earn money meanwhile. But that is not a pay a mob. It is not the "owner" of the movement pays people who are not interested in that topic at all to come.

[bangkokrick]

Rick ...

PAD's "New Politics" does not seem to be a deal breaker for anything, it is an idea they are pushing to include groups of people as voting blocks.

As far as the call for the PM to resign it does not matter what paper you read unless you cannot distinguish between news and editorials. The calls for his resignation by groups of senators, by the heads of the military, by the PAD, by other groups are news ....

The calls for his resignation by any one person in the editorial pages are editorial content (and carry all the weight of a blogger calling for the PM's resignation other than the editorial in question may in fact be the opinion/editorial of a given newspaper/media outlet)

Of course i can differentiate between the above, but may i be so bold to say that some newspapers are in favour of certain parties and others are the opposite.

I honestly don't think that the current PM has a leg to stand on and he will be forced to resign. As for the dissolution of the party thats a different matter.

So here we go again another PM from the same group of MP's and on with the 'revolving door' politics.

This situation is not good for the future of Thailand and thats what i am interested in, given that my extended family is Thai. The country has to be united if it is to move forward, so i hope that this will be the conclusion for the future.

I have been here for many years and i have never known the country be so divided. War in the South, conflict in the North, political turmoil and the economy going down the tubes.

It will take a great man/woman to find a solution to these problems and i don't care from which party they evolve so long as they can achieve unification for Thailand.

Cheers, Rick

[Samuian]

So how long do people give little Somchai?

The Human Rights commision have publically blamed the government today. That on top of the words of the independent Khunying Pornthip. It will be very hard for Somchai's committee to come up with something different from these independent voices.

How about "honest mistakes", or "they shouldn't, but thy did"? (shoot at the demonstrators)!

Once "the Man" got away with it, big style, was this in-law then behind the scenes too?

Persoanlly I reckon some PAD do get some dosh but there is little to no evidence this is widespread.

Roadies, Security Personnel, Sound mixers, Camera men, Technicians who guarantee the broadcasting etc. who aren't doing it voluntarily get paid, that is for sure!

Edited October 18, 2008 by Samuian

[jdinasia]

He's outlasted my prediction already ... thanks to a border clash Hun Sen set up.

That story is going round very rapidly now. If it is true it is a new low.

Dr Pol Lt Col Thaksin and hun Sen have been comrades for a long time and have known associations ... but when Somchai is in trouble THAT is when hun Sen decides to issue ultimatums and escalate things at the temple?

Doesn't take genius .......

I am not a conspiracy theorist, I don't believe the US gov't was responsible for 911, I don't see Thaksin's hand in the European banking crisis etc .... but this time it seems pretty clear!

[bangkokrick]

He's outlasted my prediction already ... thanks to a border clash Hun Sen set up.

That story is going round very rapidly now. If it is true it is a new low.

Dr Pol Lt Col Thaksin and hun Sen have been comrades for a long time and have known associations ... but when Somchai is in trouble THAT is when hun Sen decides to issue ultimatums and escalate things at the temple?

Doesn't take genius .......

I am not a conspiracy theorist, I don't believe the US gov't was responsible for 911, I don't see Thaksin's hand in the European banking crisis etc .... but this time it seems pretty clear!

And guess where Somchai is today. At the temple! What a surprise.

Cheers, Rick

[h90]

So how long do people give little Somchai?

The Human Rights commision have publically blamed the government today. That on top of the words of the independent Khunying Pornthip. It will be very hard for Somchai's committee to come up with something different from these independent voices.

How about "honest mistakes", or "they shouldn't, but thy did"? (shoot at the demonstrators)!

Once "the Man" got away with it, big style, was this in-law then behind the scenes too?

Well, you have that already, only a little bit different....

"The evil Chinese tear gas made this" The honest police and the honest government were cheated by China.

They wanted to shoot with cotton pads and pillows but evil China sent weapons, by mistake.

(Alternative version "the PAD had bombs in their pockets which blow away their feets, or the PAD supporter fall over each other and lost some legs" did not work that well)

And no one figured out that there are problems from early morning till late evening.

[h90]

He's outlasted my prediction already ... thanks to a border clash Hun Sen set up.

That story is going round very rapidly now. If it is true it is a new low.

Dr Pol Lt Col Thaksin and hun Sen have been comrades for a long time and have known associations ... but when Somchai is in trouble THAT is when hun Sen decides to issue ultimatums and escalate things at the temple?

Doesn't take genius .......

I am not a conspiracy theorist, I don't believe the US gov't was responsible for 911, I don't see Thaksin's hand in the European banking crisis etc .... but this time it seems pretty clear!

And guess where Somchai is today. At the temple! What a surprise.

Cheers, Rick

Being close to the border has many advantages......

[henryalleman]

I note that theres a nastly little incident brewing up at the border with Cambodia that isn't quoted as a reason to stay on, nor the economic crisis. Oh well in light of the story below it looks like it will be a very reluctant coup.

Silent coup.

By Wassana Nanuam, Pradit Ruangdit and Nattaya Chetchotiros

Army chief Gen Anupong Paojinda has stated flatly for the first time that Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat should resign to take responsibility for the Oct 7 clashes between police and People's Alliance for Democracy demonstrators.

In an hour-long interview on Channel 3 on Thursday, Gen Anupong reiterated responsibility must be taken because of public unease over what happened on Oct 7 when police fired teargas canisters to break up the protest outside parliament.

"If the government gave the order, it has to take responsibility. If the people cannot tolerate it, there will be chaos and the matter will not be put to an end," he said.

The rally tried unsuccessfully to prevent the government from declaring its policy in parliament. At the end of the day, two people were dead and more than 400 were injured, some critically.

Since then, the prime minister has come under heavy criticism for overreacting to the protest.

Asked what he would do if he were the prime minister, Gen Anupong said: "To be honest, I would resign. Why would I stay on? The country is in ruins. It will not hold on.

"I am not saying this to pressure the government to resign, but it must take responsibility. No government can survive after the spilling of people's blood, because society can never accept this. There's no point in staying on when the country has already been damaged."

The army chief sat side by side with Supreme Commander Gen Songkitti Jakkabatr, navy chief Adm Kamthorn Phumhiran, air force leader ACM Itthaporn Supawong, and police chief Pol-Gen Patcharawat Wongsuwan during the programme in a show of unity.

Gen Anupong continued to rule out a coup, saying it would not solve the political strife. The armed forces leaders and the public were not in favour of it.

He defended the army's role in the Oct 7 incident, saying it was not aware of the government's order to police to disperse the demonstrators.

He said he regretted the violence and would have opposed the police measures if he could.

A source close to Gen Anupong said the army chief wanted Mr Somchai to step down, not to dissolve the House, to end the political turmoil.

"He does not want a coup. So, the prime minister must resign," said the source.

The army chief's remarks could catch the prime minister off guard.

Earlier on Thursday Mr Somchai, also the defence minister, was greeted with a warm welcome when he officially assumed his duties at the Defence Ministry.

The armed forces leaders also followed him over to Muang Thong Thani to listen to his policy only to later appear on television and demand that he hand in his resignation.

Gen Anupong's statement prompted the People Power party to call an urgent meeting. Former deputy leader Yongyuth Tiyapairat was said to be the only one who saw Mr Somchai, a source in the party said.

Strategies that would be employed include ignoring the call from the army leader and forcing the armed forces to stage a coup so it could then be a target of criticism, or dissolving parliament, the source said.

Another source close to deposed prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, said Mr Thaksin had recommended three candidates to succeed Mr Somchai if he decides to stand down.

They are Foreign Minister Sompong Amornvivat, Deputy House Speaker Apiwan Wiriyachai and Ruam Jai Thai Chart Pattana leader Gen Chettha Thanajaro.

Democrat executive member Sathit Wongnongtoey said the opposition party strongly opposed a military coup or any other attempt to resolve the current political crisis unconstitutionally, including the setting up of a national government.

Source Bangkok Post www.bangkokpost.com/topstories/topstories.php?id=131470

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Regardless what you may think about the present government, PM or political situation, in a genuine democracy its unthinkable that an army general ventilate his political opinion in public. And even worse, urge the PM to resign.

I can only conclude that Thailand has no clue about what democracy really means. Take for instance the fact that PAD says that 75 of the MP's must be appointed, and not elected. PPP is an incestuous gang of self appointed people who only strive their own politica ambitions and benefits.

Non of them has an eye for the real needs of the country.

STUPID,STUPID, STUPID.

[h90]

I note that theres a nastly little incident brewing up at the border with Cambodia that isn't quoted as a reason to stay on, nor the economic crisis. Oh well in light of the story below it looks like it will be a very reluctant coup.

Silent coup.

By Wassana Nanuam, Pradit Ruangdit and Nattaya Chetchotiros

Army chief Gen Anupong Paojinda has stated flatly for the first time that Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat should resign to take responsibility for the Oct 7 clashes between police and People's Alliance for Democracy demonstrators.

In an hour-long interview on Channel 3 on Thursday, Gen Anupong reiterated responsibility must be taken because of public unease over what happened on Oct 7 when police fired teargas canisters to break up the protest outside parliament.

"If the government gave the order, it has to take responsibility. If the people cannot tolerate it, there will be chaos and the matter will not be put to an end," he said.

The rally tried unsuccessfully to prevent the government from declaring its policy in parliament. At the end of the day, two people were dead and more than 400 were injured, some critically.

Since then, the prime minister has come under heavy criticism for overreacting to the protest.

Asked what he would do if he were the prime minister, Gen Anupong said: "To be honest, I would resign. Why would I stay on? The country is in ruins. It will not hold on.

"I am not saying this to pressure the government to resign, but it must take responsibility. No government can survive after the spilling of people's blood, because society can never accept this. There's no point in staying on when the country has already been damaged."

The army chief sat side by side with Supreme Commander Gen Songkitti Jakkabatr, navy chief Adm Kamthorn Phumhiran, air force leader ACM Itthaporn Supawong, and police chief Pol-Gen Patcharawat Wongsuwan during the programme in a show of unity.

Gen Anupong continued to rule out a coup, saying it would not solve the political strife. The armed forces leaders and the public were not in favour of it.

He defended the army's role in the Oct 7 incident, saying it was not aware of the government's order to police to disperse the demonstrators.

He said he regretted the violence and would have opposed the police measures if he could.

A source close to Gen Anupong said the army chief wanted Mr Somchai to step down, not to dissolve the House, to end the political turmoil.

"He does not want a coup. So, the prime minister must resign," said the source.

The army chief's remarks could catch the prime minister off guard.

Earlier on Thursday Mr Somchai, also the defence minister, was greeted with a warm welcome when he officially assumed his duties at the Defence Ministry.

The armed forces leaders also followed him over to Muang Thong Thani to listen to his policy only to later appear on television and demand that he hand in his resignation.

Gen Anupong's statement prompted the People Power party to call an urgent meeting. Former deputy leader Yongyuth Tiyapairat was said to be the only one who saw Mr Somchai, a source in the party said.

Strategies that would be employed include ignoring the call from the army leader and forcing the armed forces to stage a coup so it could then be a target of criticism, or dissolving parliament, the source said.

Another source close to deposed prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, said Mr Thaksin had recommended three candidates to succeed Mr Somchai if he decides to stand down.

They are Foreign Minister Sompong Amornvivat, Deputy House Speaker Apiwan Wiriyachai and Ruam Jai Thai Chart Pattana leader Gen Chettha Thanajaro.

Democrat executive member Sathit Wongnongtoey said the opposition party strongly opposed a military coup or any other attempt to resolve the current political crisis unconstitutionally, including the setting up of a national government.

Source Bangkok Post www.bangkokpost.com/topstories/topstories.php?id=131470

Regardless what you may think about the present government, PM or political situation, in a genuine democracy its unthinkable that an army general ventilate his political opinion in public. And even worse, urge the PM to resign.

I can only conclude that Thailand has no clue about what democracy really means. Take for instance the fact that PAD says that 75 of the MP's must be appointed, and not elected. PPP is an incestuous gang of self appointed people who only strive their own politica ambitions and benefits.

Non of them has an eye for the real needs of the country.

STUPID,STUPID, STUPID.

Very strange opinion. In which country an army general is not allowed to have an own opinion specially after the government killed some people?

He told if he would be premier he would resign.

PAD never told that 75 (also not 70 or 50 %) MUST be appointed. As well they told several times that these "appointed" one are also elected.

That is just propaganda from the government to discredit the PAD. The original documents were published on TOC a while ago and told things very clear.

[jumnien]

When Bill Clinton was opposed by right-wing political organizations he did not resign. He put up a vigorous defense, which included lies and had plenty of holes, but the country came out the best for his resolve. As Somchai is being attacked by right-wing organizations (PAD) he must show the same the resolve for the good of Thailand. To give in to right-wing military pressure would be detrimental to Thailand.

[Splatter]

PAD supporters are not paid....telling these lies again and again does not make it true

The going rate is 400+ baht per day as I have been told by part time PAD-protesters.

which is a blank lie as many time proofed.

We know at least 100 PAD people from poor to rich, 24/7 there are just sometimes, from North, South, East, Central and everyone want to know where to pick up the money. I guess they would even give you half if you can tell them where to pick it up, as they are there since month that is a huge amount.

Well, tell them to go for a free PAD meal at government house and let them have a look under the plate.

Just back from Government House.

They WERE giving out VDCs of the recent events outside Parliament House.

Only one per person in the queue.

They WERE giving out free meals.

1. They were in bowls, not plates.

2. Zip diddly under them.

But maybe I was looking at the worng queue.

[h90]

When Bill Clinton was opposed by right-wing political organizations he did not resign. He put up a vigorous defense, which included lies and had plenty of holes, but the country came out the best for his resolve. As Somchai is being attacked by right-wing organizations (PAD) he must show the same the resolve for the good of Thailand. To give in to right-wing military pressure would be detrimental to Thailand.

But maybe he'll end like Chauchescu.....

Chauchescu also called everyone who spoke about his corruption right wing fascists.

[^_^]

PAD supporters are not paid....telling these lies again and again does not make it true

The going rate is 400+ baht per day as I have been told by part time PAD-protesters.

which is a blank lie as many time proofed.

We know at least 100 PAD people from poor to rich, 24/7 there are just sometimes, from North, South, East, Central and everyone want to know where to pick up the money. I guess they would even give you half if you can tell them where to pick it up, as they are there since month that is a huge amount.

Well, tell them to go for a free PAD meal at government house and let them have a look under the plate.

Just back from Government House.

They WERE giving out VDCs of the recent events outside Parliament House.

Only one per person in the queue.

They WERE giving out free meals.

1. They were in bowls, not plates.

2. Zip diddly under them.

But maybe I was looking at the worng queue.

You have to know the secret signal to get the dosh slipped under your plate/bowl/banana leaves, etc.

[hidden code]Show them your middle finger[/hidden code]

Edited October 18, 2008 by ^_^

[khunjamespittman]

Jack says "no". any predictions out there? Does anyone think the PAD is going to lay low and kick back for the festivities, and see khun brother in law leave with his box of belongings on the TV? I don't think so. I think they'll try it again, there hasn't been a consequence yet, why should there be the next time? I do kinda think that a change now would disrupt the official activities coming up. But then again since these activities are so official, I can't see how they can't not happen. Could you imagine George Bush taking responsibility for his actions? Dumb ass McCain said in the debate the other night, "we had to go into Iraq to secure our oil supply" Now that's a good reason to kill over 1 million people.

What an absurd post! What has Bush got to do with the fact that a minority of Thais refuse to accept the will of the majority of Thais in selecting their rulers. This minority will never accept anyone the Majority selects. How many times does Thailand have to try to select a leader before the minority accepts the fact that they are destroying their country and appearing as a bunch of hooligans to the civilized world? Thailand must enforce the rule of law even if it means imprisoning a significant number of the radical extremists. Anarchy will consume Thailand if the rule of law does not prevail.

[jdinasia]

Jack says "no". any predictions out there? Does anyone think the PAD is going to lay low and kick back for the festivities, and see khun brother in law leave with his box of belongings on the TV? I don't think so. I think they'll try it again, there hasn't been a consequence yet, why should there be the next time? I do kinda think that a change now would disrupt the official activities coming up. But then again since these activities are so official, I can't see how they can't not happen. Could you imagine George Bush taking responsibility for his actions? Dumb ass McCain said in the debate the other night, "we had to go into Iraq to secure our oil supply" Now that's a good reason to kill over 1 million people.

What an absurd post! What has Bush got to do with the fact that a minority of Thais refuse to accept the will of the majority of Thais in selecting their rulers. This minority will never accept anyone the Majority selects. How many times does Thailand have to try to select a leader before the minority accepts the fact that they are destroying their country and appearing as a bunch of hooligans to the civilized world? Thailand must enforce the rule of law even if it means imprisoning a significant number of the radical extremists. Anarchy will consume Thailand if the rule of law does not prevail.

I think just once ... but legally.