Barack Obama Elected President Of USA

[jumnien]

The Obama-Biden victory is a victory for all Americans! The more liberal of us get our chance with Obama and the more conservative must be elated that Hillary Clinton lost! Obama will bring unity where Hillary brought paranoia, where Hillary brought hatred Obama will bring hope! The loss of Hillary is as important for America as Obama's win; I'm suprised more people aren't talking about it. Go OBAMA!!!

[koheesti]

As expected, Russia is now testing Obama because of his perceived weakness. They are deploying more missiles near Poland and Lithuania.

The only things is that Bush is still the President for another 10 weeks or so. Someone needs to remind Putin & his puppet Medvedev of this. So the question is, will Bush act tough or leave it for Obama? And if he acts tough, what kind of house warming gift will that be for Obama come January? One more - WHY did Russia wait until AFTER the election to make the announcement? To avoid an October Surprise which might have helped McCain?

[VegasVic]

the biggest winner of this election = planet earth

The biggest winner is Al Qaeda and the various other Islamist organizations.

Sad but true! Good luck to President elect Obama, he will need it

[koheesti]

Alrighty then America spoke & obviously the majority as well as the electoral college proved that it was time to give the old clan the heave ho. Not only that but the congress is now Hopefully a little more unified so they can get on with the chore of picking up the pieces of the last administration. I never heard such sore losers.

<deleted>? Are you serious? So where are the calls from the losing side about Obama "stealing the election" like the losers (Dems) in both 2000 & 2004 were whining about? The Gore/Lieberman ticket was renamed after the election to Sore/Loserman, remember that one?

[koheesti]

But here is what we can look forward to in America:

The harder we get hit here in America with Obama's Marxist plans, the fewer travelers are going to "spread the wealth around" in LOS.

Not to derail this congratulation to Obama thread further but....

What you say is nonsense in that it has not occured.

Here is FACTS of what HAS occured.

Here is a larger version for you to study further

http://i27.tinypic.com/120m447.jpg

Now you have the FACTS not some crystal ball fantasy.

Amazing isn't it? Why don't the folks that vote Republican ever see that? OR the state of the economy that screws up under their watch every time?

Yeah, it's pretty amazing, especially the Reagan years. The latter half of the chart should be labeled Blue-"Greenspan Internet Bubble" and Red- "Greenspan Kondratieff Winter".

Most Russians themselves credit Reagan for winning the Cold War by forcing the USSR into trying to keep up with the military spending. That was in the years immediately after the USSR dissolved. I don't know what Putin has been teaching them lately.

[Tony121]

Vegas Vic can you please explain how al qaeda and islamist will be the biggest winners ?

Bush Has helped them in there recruiting drive more that Osama bin laden has by invaded Iraq a country that had nothing to do with 9/11 or al qaeda by killing 100,000 innocent Iraqi's by being allies with Dictatorships such as Saudi arabia (also 9/11 hijackers came from here) allies with Egypt (9/11 hijackers from here) supporting israel in its oppression of palestenian people.

[blam]

UP, UP, UP and away go our taxes!

Umm, no. Singaporean banking system indicators for next year show lower taxes on US Citizens making less than $200,000 per year. Small business owners will be paying far less in tax. Anyone making over $2,000,000 a year (USD) will pay 1-2% more tax.

Please distrust American ultra rich conservatives, they will in fact pay more tax and are the ones making the false claims. Taxes are going to be more stable, no more free lunches in the way of $380 rebates however (in wartime no-less?)

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President Elect Barack Hussein Obama is a welcome addition to world history. Americans should all be very very happy. Congratulations!

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[bobbin]

I have observed for many months now, the bashing that my country, the United States of America, has taken on this forum. I have chosen not to reply because although I am angered by the hate filled rhetoric, I also know that is a right of everyone to have and express their opinion. That being said, I have to join in this thread stating my own views on this discussion.

Obama ran a great campaign and is a charismatic personality, so he is to be commended for that, but that's as far as I'm going with the praise for him. How an American majority (and a majority of the rest of the world) can be fooled by the lies and false promises is beyond me. So many facts about him have been overlooked and excused (past associations, radical views and voting record, when he did vote) by the American mainstream media that the advantage just couldn't be overcome by the McCain campaign. He and the democratic party are no doubt moving this country into socialism, admitted by Obama himself, when he said he intended to take from those earning more to those not earning at all, by spreading the wealth. I do not relish the thought of giving those who are capable of earning their own living some of my hard earned money so they don't have to be bothered with working, but if you do, by all means go right ahead and give up yours. Also, this idea of universal health care, who do you think will pay for that? The working class of America, of course. The truth is that even now, no one in America is turned away from hospital care when it is needed, whether they can pay or not. It wasn't that long ago that the Democratic leaders of Congress were testifying that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were doing well and certainly didn't need any more regulatory oversight, just go back and look at the congressional records if you don't believe me.

For all the Bush haters and Anti-Americans, I say to you , <deleted> off, especially you anti-American Americans! I hope all of you are in Thailand now and stay there for the rest of your lives and better yet give up your citizenship, particularly the ones whom have stated that you are for the first time proud of your country (but I feel for Thailand because you are probably the Thai bashers too, you know who you are, the self-righteous, self-professed intellectuals). It seems most of the world loves to blame the USA for all the problems of the world, but I guess that's easier than seeing the truth and accepting responsibility for your own actions.

We in America are not "war mongers" as some of you portray us, Bush is not a "war monger" as so many like to call him, but if you believe that protecting your citizens is the wrong thing to do, then that is probably why most of your countries are no longer able to defend yourselves. I know some will say that going into Iraq was wrong and goes beyond protecting your borders and citizens at home, to you I say, you have no idea of National Security and what it takes in today's world to insure such. Those who claim that it was an oil issue all along, maybe that was a part of it, but if you think that the oil and energy of a country is not a national security issue, then you are ill informed as well as naive. It doesn't take an intellectual to realize how the recent increases in oil prices has negatively affected the entire world.

I was in Iraq and I know how the majority of the people reacted to our being there, it was with open arms and gratitude. What you see on the news cast of protest where instigated by radicals and insurgents, and don't bother arguing with me unless you were there and have your own experience to claim different. What you don't see on the mainstream newscast is all of the positive work that we and the other members of the coalition forces have done in Iraq. I fought alongside British and Polish forces and I didn't hear any of them b**ching and crying about why we were there. Most of them are great guys and gals and I was proud to be associated with them.

It is my sincere hope that the United States of America will continue to be the greatest country on earth and the Leader of the Free World in spite of how this election turned out.

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[TheJoker]

Even a democrat talking about hope and change will when shows come to show act like all the previous office holders did.

Indeed. First see than believe.

[MILT]

congrats to president obama. Hope he will make a change.

What a great country american is!!

Indeed, USA (not America) is a great country and with the help of Obama we are going to change that.

i cant believe you are such a dumb nation voting for a man( i dont give a toss what colour he is)with no policy but i am going to change things......only in the USA

I seldom comment on this blog, but after reading your post I must say "I can't believe what a complete morron you seem to be. After 8 years of failed policy of which Bush/Cheney should be held accountable finally this dumb nation of mine will be the nation it was meant to be. Toss that!

[bonobo]

I have observed for many months now, the bashing that my country, the United States of America, has taken on this forum. I have chosen not to reply because although I am angered by the hate filled rhetoric, I also know that is a right of everyone to have and express their opinion. That being said, I have to join in this thread stating my own views on this discussion.

Obama ran a great campaign and is a charismatic personality, so he is to be commended for that, but that's as far as I'm going with the praise for him. How an American majority (and a majority of the rest of the world) can be fooled by the lies and false promises is beyond me. So many facts about him have been overlooked and excused (past associations, radical views and voting record, when he did vote) by the American mainstream media that the advantage just couldn't be overcome by the McCain campaign. He and the democratic party are no doubt moving this country into socialism, admitted by Obama himself, when he said he intended to take from those earning more to those not earning at all, by spreading the wealth. I do not relish the thought of giving those who are capable of earning their own living some of my hard earned money so they don't have to be bothered with working, but if you do, by all means go right ahead and give up yours. Also, this idea of universal health care, who do you think will pay for that? The working class of America, of course. The truth is that even now, no one in America is turned away from hospital care when it is needed, whether they can pay or not. It wasn't that long ago that the Democratic leaders of Congress were testifying that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were doing well and certainly didn't need any more regulatory oversight, just go back and look at the congressional records if you don't believe me.

For all the Bush haters and Anti-Americans, I say to you , <deleted> off, especially you anti-American Americans! I hope all of you are in Thailand now and stay there for the rest of your lives and better yet give up your citizenship, particularly the ones whom have stated that you are for the first time proud of your country (but I feel for Thailand because you are probably the Thai bashers too, you know who you are, the self-righteous, self-professed intellectuals). It seems most of the world loves to blame the USA for all the problems of the world, but I guess that's easier than seeing the truth and accepting responsibility for your own actions.

We in America are not "war mongers" as some of you portray us, Bush is not a "war monger" as so many like to call him, but if you believe that protecting your citizens is the wrong thing to do, then that is probably why most of your countries are no longer able to defend yourselves. I know some will say that going into Iraq was wrong and goes beyond protecting your borders and citizens at home, to you I say, you have no idea of National Security and what it takes in today's world to insure such. Those who claim that it was an oil issue all along, maybe that was a part of it, but if you think that the oil and energy of a country is not a national security issue, then you are ill informed as well as naive. It doesn't take an intellectual to realize how the recent increases in oil prices has negatively affected the entire world.

I was in Iraq and I know how the majority of the people reacted to our being there, it was with open arms and gratitude. What you see on the news cast of protest where instigated by radicals and insurgents, and don't bother arguing with me unless you were there and have your own experience to claim different. What you don't see on the mainstream newscast is all of the positive work that we and the other members of the coalition forces have done in Iraq. I fought alongside British and Polish forces and I didn't hear any of them b**ching and crying about why we were there. Most of them are great guys and gals and I was proud to be associated with them.

It is my sincere hope that the United States of America will continue to be the greatest country on earth and the Leader of the Free World in spite of how this election turned out.

I was in Iraq, too, and I am not sure where you were to observe the "open arms and gratitude." Except for the Kurds, I saw resentment and attacks from both the Shia and Sunni. It wasn't until Al Qaeda really started screwing up that we had the Awakening Councils and things started getting better. And while I agree that the coalition forces, after some initial missteps, did some great work there, the fact of the matter is that we never should have gone in (and this was the opinion of just about the entire upper echelon of the military leadership as well.)

You have to face it--Bush was not a good president for the economy, for our international standing, for the environment, and for any number of areas. This is not US-bashing, but pretty much an objective observation.

I hope Obama can undo some of the damage. We have him for at least the next 4 years, so why not hope for the best for him, for our country, and for the rest of the world? John McCain has asked his supporters to give the President-elect their support now, so I don't think that is difficult a thing to do. If Obama is as bad for the US as Bush was, campaign hard for a replacement in 4 years, but for now, let's give the guy a chance.

[Riverine]

Thanks for the welcome jbowman1993, even if you didn’t mean it.

As far as the hospital comments, you can read the facts of the matter below. By the way, I have a distant family member that has benefited from this law more than once and not for life threatening emergencies.

The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (42 U.S.C. § 1395dd, EMTALA) is a United States Act of Congress passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act. It requires hospitals and ambulance services to provide care to anyone needing emergency treatment regardless of citizenship, legal status or ability to pay. There are no reimbursement provisions. As a result of the act, patients needing emergency treatment can be discharged only under their own informed consent or when their condition requires transfer to a hospital better equipped to administer the treatment.

EMTALA applies to "participating hospitals", i.e., those that accept payment from the Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services (CMS) under the Medicare program. However, in practical terms, EMTALA applies to virtually all hospitals in the U.S., with the exception of the Shriners Hospitals for Children, Indian Health Service hospitals, and Veterans Affairs hospitals. The combined payments of Medicare and Medicaid, $602 billion in 2004,[1] or roughly 44% of all medical expenditures in the U.S., make not participating in EMTALA impractical for nearly all hospitals. EMTALA's provisions apply to all patients, and not just to Medicare patients.[2][3]

Source: Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As far as the casualties of Iraqi citizens, most where killed by suicide bombings and IED’s set by insurgents and you said it yourself, “Sectarian violence”. That would be between the two major Sects of Islam i.e., Shia and Sunni. I do concede that mistakes were made early on but the strategy change has worked.

Concerning the bailout: Both Obama and McCain supported and voted for the legislation that was passed by Congress, so, although Bush signed the bill it was a collaboration between all parties.

What enabled Obama to win the election was the campaign promise of entitlements. I read somewhere that some historians trace the fall of the Roman Empire to the fact that the once the people realized they could vote themselves a portion of the public treasury , it became more expensive for the government to satisfy the voters through promises and bribes of entitlements and the treasury dwindled, thus eventually resulting in economic collapse. I doubt this happened overnight and probably was only partly responsible for the collapse.

For some of the others posting, is it really necessary to stoop to name calling as school kids would, to try to make a point? Only if you don’t have a valid point to make, I guess.

I do hope that Obama proves to be the best President we have had in recent history, only time will tell.

[blam]

I have observed for many months now, the bashing that my country, the United States of America, has taken on this forum. I have chosen not to reply because although I am angered by the hate filled rhetoric, I also know that is a right of everyone to have and express their opinion. That being said, I have to join in this thread stating my own views on this discussion.

Obama ran a great campaign and is a charismatic personality, so he is to be commended for that, but that’s as far as I’m going with the praise for him. How an American majority (and a majority of the rest of the world) can be fooled by the lies and false promises is beyond me. So many facts about him have been overlooked and excused (past associations, radical views and voting record, when he did vote) by the American mainstream media that the advantage just couldn’t be overcome by the McCain campaign. He and the democratic party are no doubt moving this country into socialism, admitted by Obama himself, when he said he intended to take from those earning more to those not earning at all, by spreading the wealth. I do not relish the thought of giving those who are capable of earning their own living some of my hard earned money so they don‘t have to be bothered with working, but if you do, by all means go right ahead and give up yours. Also, this idea of universal health care, who do you think will pay for that? The working class of America, of course. The truth is that even now, no one in America is turned away from hospital care when it is needed, whether they can pay or not. It wasn’t that long ago that the Democratic leaders of Congress were testifying that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were doing well and certainly didn’t need any more regulatory oversight, just go back and look at the congressional records if you don’t believe me.

For all the Bush haters and Anti-Americans, I say to you , <deleted> off, especially you anti-American Americans! I hope all of you are in Thailand now and stay there for the rest of your lives and better yet give up your citizenship, particularly the ones whom have stated that you are for the first time proud of your country (but I feel for Thailand because you are probably the Thai bashers too, you know who you are, the self-righteous, self-professed intellectuals). It seems most of the world loves to blame the USA for all the problems of the world, but I guess that’s easier than seeing the truth and accepting responsibility for your own actions.

We in America are not “war mongers” as some of you portray us, Bush is not a “war monger” as so many like to call him, but if you believe that protecting your citizens is the wrong thing to do, then that is probably why most of your countries are no longer able to defend yourselves. I know some will say that going into Iraq was wrong and goes beyond protecting your borders and citizens at home, to you I say, you have no idea of National Security and what it takes in today’s world to insure such. Those who claim that it was an oil issue all along, maybe that was a part of it, but if you think that the oil and energy of a country is not a national security issue, then you are ill informed as well as naive. It doesn’t take an intellectual to realize how the recent increases in oil prices has negatively affected the entire world.

I was in Iraq and I know how the majority of the people reacted to our being there, it was with open arms and gratitude. What you see on the news cast of protest where instigated by radicals and insurgents, and don’t bother arguing with me unless you were there and have your own experience to claim different. What you don’t see on the mainstream newscast is all of the positive work that we and the other members of the coalition forces have done in Iraq. I fought alongside British and Polish forces and I didn’t hear any of them b**ching and crying about why we were there. Most of them are great guys and gals and I was proud to be associated with them.

It is my sincere hope that the United States of America will continue to be the greatest country on earth and the Leader of the Free World in spite of how this election turned out.

Not so fast Riverine, read, weep, then report back:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

This, and these consignees, are exactly what President George W. Bush used as his primary source of information. And, this sent on January 26, 1998, was a letter to President at the time, Bill Cliinton!

The first week he took office, President George W. Bush fired SAIC as the elite independent world information gathering source, and turned the job solely over to the Pentagon. SAIC was a major part of the "large war defensive" 'chess master defense' developed by Clinton think tanks. President George W. Bush threw this strategy in the trashcan immediately, then went to war with Iraq utilizing a body of lies unparalleled in US history.

You yourself may not be a warmonger, the US people may not be war mongers, but George Bush, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Pearle, Donald Rumsfeld, William Bennet, and Zalmay Khalilzad, et al (along with the entire Bush heritage ranging back 70 years) certainly were/are, and they went about it very badly. Bad intelligence from restricted sources(?), or bad leadership(?), or both? History now suggests "both".

Feet on ground, or foot in mouth? Please do some coherent fact finding before saying anything about the posters here. I don't think that anyone posting in thaivisa.com hates America at all, in fact 99.999% love it more than you will ever know. That's the reason people say anything at all. History is going to enslave George W. Bush to the ranks of the never to be forgotten war mongers, and what NOT to do as president.

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Congratulations President Elect Barack Hussein Obama!

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[Swanky]

Barak Husseim Obama does have a certain ring to it. Good for him.

[MILT]

congrats to president obama. Hope he will make a change.

What a great country american is!!

Indeed, USA (not America) is a great country and with the help of Obama we are going to change that.

i cant believe you are such a dumb nation voting for a man( i dont give a toss what colour he is)with no policy but i am going to change things......only in the USA

I can't believe you are such a morron. After 8 years of failed policy of which Bush/Cheney should be held accountable, finally this nation of mine will be the nation it was meant to be. So toss that

[Swanky]

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I can't believe you are such a morron. After 8 years of failed policy of which Bush/Cheney should be held accountable, finally this nation of mine will be the nation it was meant to be. So toss that

Should that be tossed with balsamic vinegar or mayonnaise? I am in agreement with you though and should that be moron as opposed to morron? I think the latter is a colour or is that maroon, whatever.

Edited November 6, 2008 by Swanky

[koheesti]

i cant believe you are such a dumb nation voting for a man( i dont give a toss what colour he is)with no policy but i am going to change things......only in the USA

I seldom comment on this blog, but after reading your post I must say "I can't believe what a complete morron you seem to be. After 8 years of failed policy of which Bush/Cheney should be held accountable finally this dumb nation of mine will be the nation it was meant to be. Toss that!

Sorry, could you repeat that?

[nikster]

the biggest winner of this election = planet earth

The biggest winner is Al Qaeda and the various other Islamist organizations.

Sad but true! Good luck to President elect Obama, he will need it

You could not be further from the truth. Al Quaeda needs constant conflict and warfare, and Bush was a willing partner in ensuring that that happened. He even started a war that had nothing to do with Al quada or radical islam.

Go back a few years when Saddam Hussein was one of the world's worst dictators running a brutal regime. It was bad. But there was no Al Quaeda in Iraq. None. No connection, in fact Hussein despised Al Quaeda. The entirely fictional connection was made by President Bush and the neo-cons who made a point to mention Al Quaeda and Iraq in the same sentence during months and months of build-up for a planned war.

Now, the nasty business will get back to the basics: Win in Afghanistan and destroy Al Quaeda's home base. Get out of the monumental distraction that is Iraq. Close Guantanamo and end Un-American practices like torture (aka "extraordinary rendition").

Somewhat unrelated, Obamas election will improve relations with the middle east. As a consequence, Al Quaeda and other radical groups will have fewer new recruits. It should be obvious to anyone that the fight against a fanatical religious faction cannot be won by force. It can only be won in the hearts and minds of people.

[Beardog]

Alrighty then America spoke & obviously the majority as well as the electoral college proved that it was time to give the old clan the heave ho. Not only that but the congress is now Hopefully a little more unified so they can get on with the chore of picking up the pieces of the last administration. I never heard such sore losers.

<deleted>? Are you serious? So where are the calls from the losing side about Obama "stealing the election" like the losers (Dems) in both 2000 & 2004 were whining about? The Gore/Lieberman ticket was renamed after the election to Sore/Loserman, remember that one?

The past is the past. The Chads are gone but the memory lives on. Are you a racist or just a little deranged?

As I posted before I have been a registered Republican since 1976 when I first was able to vote.

Bush was a loser & never voted for him or his dad. At least pops had some actual intelligence.

I doubt if Donald Trump even voted for George Mclone & failing Palin. America spoke up & you are in a minority.As the Trumpster puts it Your fired (the Repubs) & this was the sediment of America. For the first time in history the young people got out & voted. They had to. The good old boys took em to the cleaners. Not only did our generation get stuffed- but the youngins get to pay for the mess for the next century.

They had there chance for 8 years -fought every issue tooth & nail. Cost America dearly not only by putting us so deep in the hole, but America got to lose face enduring the worst president in history. Bush makes Carter look like a saint.

The last admin could have changed anywhere along the way- but they chose to play gunslinger with Americans integrity.

No wonder they repubs not only got routed & it was a rout- but they lost a significant amount of seats in the congress as well.

So enough with sour grapes. Looks like it is time to buck up & get a life. I am not a Democrat or a republican-just an American that wants to see the country get back on track. Obviously America made the choice- more than 2-1 not a small margin but a huge defeat for your side. Wah Wah Get over it. Honestly you are sounding like the bully that got the <deleted> kicked out of him in school. Your welcome to your opinion & anyway you want to vote- but please spare the American expat community the world done me wrong song. we moved to LOS to get away from this.

I hope that this has a positive affect in LOS. The Thai networks were more engulfed in this election than their own it seems.

The whole world has favored the change of tide in America & I for one relish not being looked at as a fool cause of poor decisions in politics.

Nothing personal, but go take a walk & look at the countryside here & contemplate how nice Thailand is & Quit complaining.

At least give the new pres. elect a chance.

Peace out. I am no longer going to feed the TROLLS.

Congrads to America's decision in making the right choice. Go Obama!!!!!!!!!

Koheesti as my signature says. When life gives you a lemon go make lemonade.

Better than sour grapes!

Edited November 6, 2008 by Beardog

[NanaFoods]

It is my sincere hope that the United States of America will continue to be the greatest country on earth and the Leader of the Free World in spite of how this election turned out.

Dear Riverine,

Are you out of your mind?

The greatest country in the world and Leader of the Free World???

The worst thing a country can do is to initiate genocide: Nazi Germany, Cambodia, Ruanda

The second worst thing a country can do is to start war: France under Napoleon, Nazi Germany again and the USA: Vietnam, Afganistan, Irak.

Going to war in order to preseve Democracy?

Democracy in Vietnam, Irak???? Want to add Thailand to the list?

Seems some Europeans suffer from penis envy directed towards the US.

Comparing the US to Nazi Germany, Napoleon? Priceless.

This, coming from someone who may be speaking German today if it weren't for the US.

(if you are an American, shame on you)

Vietnam? One word: Korea

Afghanistan? Totally justified.

They essentially attacked the US first by harboring, facilitating, and protecting OBL.

Iraq? I would agree it was a mistake to go in, and W simply had a hard-on for Saddam ever since Saddam tried to assassinate W's father. Yes, Saddam was evil and most Iraqis appear to be happy he is gone, but Bush didn't go about it the right way if that was the real issue - he should have solicited more international support, or just hold off. If he knew anything about the region's influences and the Islamic mindset, he would have seen that a power void in Iraq would only benefit Iran (a greater threat at the time and more so now).

Thailand? argumentum ad ridiculum

Aside from that bit of nonsense, both Dems and Repubs are flip-sides of the same big-government coin.

I would have preferred Ron Paul or Baldwin. At least Ron Paul seems to be the only politician who understands the huge problem of the Federal Reserve banking system and the damage it does to the US economy on a regular basis.

I voted 3rd party (not McCain nor Obama), but am willing to give Obama a chance to prove himself... I think anyone would be hard-pressed to do worse than Bush. The good news is, that the Stock market historically does better under Dem administration. His past associations are worrisome, but I just hope the Dem Party keeps him in check. We shall see in due time.

Edited November 6, 2008 by ChefHeat

[Mattchu9999]

This will be the biggest "We told you so" in the history of the earth. All the idiotic sheeple believe whatever the media tells you...

LOL

HOPE Ohhhhhh ahhhhhh HOPE oooohhhhhh ahhhhh

Hope is a pacifier for reality.

For which you will get a nice dose of when you see just how much of an empty suit your "messiah" is.

Baaaaaaaaaa Baaaaaaaa went the sheeple...

Ron Paul would have made real change for the better, but hey who needs it when we have the messiah... go Hollywood go!!!

Edited November 6, 2008 by Mattchu9999

[nikster]

I do hope that Obama proves to be the best President we have had in recent history, only time will tell.

I am fairly sure he will be - all the opportunities are there now.

I am somewhat amazed that some Americans don't realize the enormous opportunity of his election. The USA just won the jackpot, but you are still questioning whether that's a good thing. Just listen to him speak - this man is very different from your ordinary run of the mill politician. The only President during my lifetime that I'd have happily voted for myself.

To me, it's not just the USA but also the world - because this is a pretty small planet we all live on and the USA is one big part of it. It's also the world's beacon of democracy and under Bush that beacon was about to go out. Yet there is no alternative - the EU is too busy infighting to ever get anything done. Russia is an Oliogarchy, China is a dictatorship, other countries deal with their own problems...

... about Anti-Americanism - it was latent before Bush, under Bush it became understandable - if misguided - and it will abate now. Nationalism and Anti-Americanism are really two sides of the same coin - the belief that one nation is better than another. It's an insane and dangerous idea - the greatest killer in the history of man.

[Seneque]

Well done Mr. Barrack Obama ...

I cant keep thinking that the situation is so BAD in the USA that anyone from the Democratic party would have won this one ... The rhetoric about his 'blackness' is a real sign that the USA and the (white) world at large are still not quite ready for this ... but we are on the right track.

As for Thailand, his election might not be as a welcome news as some tend to believe.

Some protectionism from the US will be the trend for a while, but the core of the problem will remain the same.

Is is quite interesting to note (as it is the case in Thailand - re 1997), that everytime there is a huge financial mess the democrats step in to try to clean it up ... can they do it this time ... only time will tell

The policy he talked about, emphasizing on a strong dollar is wishfull thinking at best ...

[nikster]

Hope is a pacifier for reality.

You know who the real losers were in this elections? It wasn't the Republicans. It was the cynics world-wide. Those who think that nothing will ever change. They lost, and they lost badly. The American people have stood up to them and said: We're better than that.

That makes me very happy

== Yes, we can == - you just watch! :D:D

[gonzobrains]

Of course he is mixed. His mother is caucasian. But it is politics as usual, so he has to play the race card when it favors him. McCain is half Scotch-Irish and English (does that make him 30 percent each), but is old news because his skin is "white".

I wonder if we get a full black president one day if he will lay claim to being the first "true" African American president?

The problem I had during this election was white people being accused of racism because they voted for McCain. But is a black person voting for Obama any less racist?

Jeff

Just because he is dark skinned doesn't make him 'black', as he is in fact mixed.

Next up, calling Luk-Krungs 'white' if they are elected to something here in Thailand? Or are they basing this race-thing on looks only, not blood?

Anyway, congrats to Obama, now show the people how wrong they where. Even a democrat talking about hope and change will when shows come to show act like all the previous office holders did.

[gonzobrains]

Dude, this kind of talk makes me so sick.

"The American people have stood up and said: 'We're better than that."

Better than what?

First of all, have you ever heard the old saying "the masses are asses"?

Obama won this election because of the unfortunate timing of a GLOBAL ECONOMY COLLAPSE. I say "global" because America is not the only one to blame.

You notice how all other issues take the back seat when the economy goes sour? It just goes to show you that human nature is always interested in making a buck before anything else.

And when people start hurting in the pocketbook they'll listen to any socialist drivel that promises a glorious future.

Jeff

p.s., gasoline has gone down in recent weeks. anyone say thanks to good ol' dubya?

Hope is a pacifier for reality.

You know who the real losers were in this elections? It wasn't the Republicans. It was the cynics world-wide. Those who think that nothing will ever change. They lost, and they lost badly. The American people have stood up to them and said: We're better than that.

That makes me very happy

== Yes, we can == - you just watch! :D:D

[Swanky]

The problem I had during this election was white people being accused of racism because they voted for McCain. But is a black person voting for Obama any less racist?

Jeff

How about anyone from an Asian background?

[Jingthing]

I wonder if we get a full black president one day if he will lay claim to being the first "true" African American president?

Obama, he is black quite enough for certain to forever be known as the first US black president.

Obama during the slavery era, based on his skin color, would have been a slave.

Obama during the Jim Crow south era, based on his skin color, would have had to sit at the back of the bus, would have to use a separate "colored" water fountain, would have been prevented from voting, would have been lynched for politically organizing.

Obama, today, based on his skin color, ancestry, and self identification is our first black president.

Edited November 6, 2008 by Jingthing

[venturalaw]

Pandora's Box has been opened. After almost two years of this American Idol candidate, whose previous experience of being a state senator and 140 days in the U.S. Senate leaves him woefully short, I am yet to hear what he is going to do. Tourism to Thailand is going to drop. The Dow Jones is already down 177 points as I write this, having gained yesterday on hopes of a McCain victory.

But here is what we can look forward to in America:

Obama is on record as saying “if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.” Man made Global Warming is a HOAX. The majority of electricity generated in the United States comes from burning coal. Guess what will happen to everyone's electric bill.

The Bush tax cuts expire in 2010. Obama has pledged over ONE TRILLION DOLLARS in new Federal spending. Obama is on record as saying that he wants to "spread the wealth around". This means that in 2010, our federal income taxes will INCREASE 20-87%. Here's a comparison:

Taxes under Clinton 1999 Taxes under Bush 2008

Single making 30K - tax $8,400 Single making 30K - tax $4,500

Single making 50K - tax $14,000 Single making 50K - tax $12,500

Single making 75K - tax $23,250 Single making 75K - tax $18,750

Married making 60K - tax $16,800 Married making 60K- tax $9,000

Married making 75K - tax $21,000 Married making 75K - tax $18,750

Married making 125K - tax $38,750 Married making 125K - tax $31,250

Who gets hurt the most? The single taxpayer under $30,000/married under $60,000 will see an 87% INCREASE. Bill Clinton ran on the lie of a middle class tax cut, and then enacted the largest tax INCREASE in U.S. history. Obama and the liberals are not going to keep the current tax plan in place. Too bad, because EVERY time taxes have been cut, the actual dollar amount to the U.S. Treasury has gone up. In some states, federal income, social security, medicare, and state taxes are going to consume over 60% of every dollar made. That is before any state sales tax kicks in on purchases, along with gasoline tax, energy tax increases, etc.

Corporate taxes in America are the second highest in the world, and Obama wants to increase them as if they don't pay enough. Exxon Mobil pays more in income taxes ($27.9 billion) annually as the entire bottom 50% of individual taxpayers ($27.4 billion), which is 65,000,000 people. People characterize Exxon’s profits in terms of nearly $1,500 in profit per second. Exxon also paid $4,100 a second in taxes. In 1Q 2008, Exxon paid $29.3 BILLION in all taxes combined with a net profit of $10.9 BILLION. Almost 75% of every dollar of revenue goes to taxes, but it's too low.

Business needs to make a profit to stay in business and any increase will only result in higher prices for the consumer, and more companies relocating off shore. Jimmy Carter tried this idiotic crap with his "windfall profits tax" on the oil companies and only succeeded in increased prices and gas rationing/gas lines that stretched for blocks.

These are not opinions, these are hard economic FACTS. The harder we get hit here in America with Obama's Marxist plans, the fewer travelers are going to "spread the wealth around" in LOS.

Well said, however, Obama will be hamstrung with the current economic situation for at least 2 years by some estimates. Thank God the socialists will be unable to tax us into oblivion as planned - "spreading the wealth", at least not for a while.

[Jingthing]

The problem I had during this election was white people being accused of racism because they voted for McCain. But is a black person voting for Obama any less racist?

Jeff

How about anyone from an Asian background?

It is normal to be excited about "one of your own" coming into power. I think you do black Americans an insult to imply that they may have voted against their self interest, and voted on race alone. They most certainly do not in general vote on race alone. Rather as a block like all blocks, voting is largely determined by party, political ideology, and economic self interest. Normally, 90 percent of black Americans vote for the presidential candidate from the democratic party. This time it was 95 percent. Black Americans are the most loyal and reliable base for the democratic party (second only to gays and Jews) and it is about time they had one of theirs at the top of the ticket.

Edited November 6, 2008 by Jingthing