Uk Cancel Thaksin's Visa And Wife's

[Thai at Heart]

Thaksin suffers from the Napoleon Complex, aka, Little Man Syndrome. Looking at a few of his quotes and undiplomatic and rude style when addressing others at a UN-Asean session, I can only wonder if this moron has any friends left? No wonder he was 86ed out of the UK.

Hew should be sent to Elba - from whence, he will no doubt escape, to meet his "Waterloo" on the cracked runways of of Suvarnabhumi

I think it is more the case that he suffers from refusing to stay at the level that some people believe he was born. A lot probably believe he has more than exceeded his position in life by creating a company, on the back of favours given to him, that made him a billionaire. And come to think of it, most of us could have made ourselves billionaires with a government granted monopoly that allowed us to charge 1000 USD for a phone for years and years.

Edited November 24, 2008 by Thai at Heart

[womble]

The good thing about Thaksin is his mouth, I should imagine they will soon get fed up with him in Dubai.......

At the moment all he cares about is getting that impounded money back.

It is soon to be the case where the $ is siezed for good, something big will have to happen soon and he has said it in as many words.

Eigher the king will pardon him and then he can come back. Next he will use a vote to become PM and then get his $ back.

The second way as also said by himself is the people do it for him. He will mobilise thousands to call for an amnesty which will also facilitate him coming back as PM and getting his $ back.

[Thaddeus]

Thaksin suffers from the Napoleon Complex, aka, Little Man Syndrome. Looking at a few of his quotes and undiplomatic and rude style when addressing others at a UN-Asean session, I can only wonder if this moron has any friends left? No wonder he was 86ed out of the UK.

Hew should be sent to Elba - from whence, he will no doubt escape, to meet his "Waterloo" on the cracked runways of of Suvarnabhumi

Napoleon was a great man with whom the likes of Thaksin can not be compared!

To the best of my knowledge, Taksin doesn't have syphilis, however, when it comes to winning small battles but losing wars, they are going to turn out to be very similar IMHO, and equally similar in the 'arrogance with no justification' dept.

[Mobi]

To the best of my knowledge, Taksin doesn't have syphilis, however, when it comes to winning small battles but losing wars, they are going to turn out to be very similar IMHO, and equally similar in the 'arrogance with no justification' dept.

Who is Thaksin's Josephine?

[LaoPo]

Napoleon was a great man...............

Many millions of Europeans, Russians, Egyptians, Syrians and other Middle Easterners, other than some groups amongst Corsicans and French, do not agree with you...Monsieur Marquess....

The little man from Corsica was responsible for the death of millions of Europeans but also in Egypt and Middle East, including innocent men, women and children.

Better not call Napoleon a great man...he was responsible for the bankruptcy of France and left Europe in pieces....

LaoPo

[plachon]

Napoleon was a great man...............

Many millions of Europeans, Russians, Egyptians, Syrians and other Middle Easterners, other than some groups amongst Corsicans and French, do not agree with you...Monsieur Marquess....

The little man from Corsica was responsible for the death of millions of Europeans but also in Egypt and Middle East, including innocent men, women and children.

Better not call Napoleon a great man...he was responsible for the bankruptcy of France and left Europe in pieces....

LaoPo

Oh, sounds just like Toxin then - reponsible for the deaths of thousands (and rising by the day); if left in power would have been responsible for the bankruptcy of Thailand and presently seems to be hellbent on leaving it in pieces. Mon dieu, c'est incroyable!

[Ricardo]

Thaksin suffers from the Napoleon Complex, aka, Little Man Syndrome. Looking at a few of his quotes and undiplomatic and rude style when addressing others at a UN-Asean session, I can only wonder if this moron has any friends left? No wonder he was 86ed out of the UK.

He should be sent to Elba - from whence, he will no doubt escape, to meet his "Waterloo" on the cracked runways of of Suvarnabhumi

Napoleon was a great man with whom the likes of Thaksin can not be compared!

I think I'm right in saying, Napoleon died of lead-poisoning, let's hope it isn't contageous.

[Moonrakers]

Thaksin suffers from the Napoleon Complex, aka, Little Man Syndrome. Looking at a few of his quotes and undiplomatic and rude style when addressing others at a UN-Asean session, I can only wonder if this moron has any friends left? No wonder he was 86ed out of the UK.

He should be sent to Elba - from whence, he will no doubt escape, to meet his "Waterloo" on the cracked runways of of Suvarnabhumi

Napoleon was a great man with whom the likes of Thaksin can not be compared!

I think I'm right in saying, Napoleon died of lead-poisoning, let's hope it isn't contageous.

Doe's lead poisoning not make people go insane, that may be the link.

[younghusband]

Sorry folks I can almost hear the groan as this subject is raised again.I have been pondering the UK decision because in so many ways it was distinctly odd.The British Foreign Office's cunning isn't to be underestimated and the the only reason given (Thaksin's conviction in a Thai court of law) doesn't really convince.Only the simple minded would argue the courts haven't become deeply compromised here.The other unofficial reason given was the slightly sharp practice one that the UK wanted to avoid the no gain prospect of extradition proceedings.Possibly.

At the time I speculated whether UK intelligence services hadn't identified Thaksin getting involved in something completely out of order.Perhaps.However my current thinking is that the Brits had thought ahead about the elite's plan to dismantle democracy in Thailand.Clearly if the US/UK/EC wanted to nip this in the bud the perception that Thaksin has safe haven in London wouldn't have helped.Already I see the US, EC and UK are reminding Thailand about the need to adhere to real democracy (code for one man one vote and stick new politics up Sondhi's posterior).Thaksin sitting in UK would have been a distraction and easy target for the PAD zealots.

[animatic]

Thaksin suffers from the Napoleon Complex, aka, Little Man Syndrome. Looking at a few of his quotes and undiplomatic and rude style when addressing others at a UN-Asean session, I can only wonder if this moron has any friends left? No wonder he was 86ed out of the UK.

He should be sent to Elba - from whence, he will no doubt escape, to meet his "Waterloo" on the cracked runways of of Suvarnabhumi

Napoleon was a great man with whom the likes of Thaksin can not be compared!

I think I'm right in saying, Napoleon died of lead-poisoning, let's hope it isn't contageous.

Doe's lead poisoning not make people go insane, that may be the link.

No lead 'ingestion' doesn't cause near term madness, in the long run it DOES have very bad effects.

Hense the removal of lwead based paints.

Quicksilver AKA mercury does cause madness pretty quickly, SEE mad as a hatter,

and is liquid, so easy enough to use in slow poisonings, maybe mixed with arsenic, a classic in that genre.

Napoloean was both a great military leader, and a total despot as a governmental leader

who killed millions in-directly. and hundreds of thousands directly. Not some one to aspire to be.

No, Thaksin is not in that league, except maybe in his own mind.

[Samuian]

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Napoloean was both a great military leader, and a total despot as a governmental leader

who killed millions in-directly. and hundreds of thousands directly. Not some one to aspire to be.

No, Thaksin is not in that league, except maybe in his own mind.

But the "little wannabe", impersonator of Bonaparte, as in the greatness, power, influence and ruler ship!

Was Schicklehuber the reincarnation then?

dream, dream, dream.... still believe this guy is a thread to Thailands inner freedom and security!

[animatic]

Still have 76 billion reasons to believe this guy

is a threat to Thailand's security, yes.

[frodo]

ex-Wife of Thaksin to return home Friday night

Unconfirmed report said Friday that Khunying Pojaman, ex-wife of fugitive ex-PM Thaksin Shinawatra, will return to Bangkok on Friday night.

source: http://nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/r...newsid=30090307

Interesting timing for her possible return. Will it be straight to jail or will the courts allow her to remain free again?

[mrtoad]

ex-Wife of Thaksin to return home Friday night

Unconfirmed report said Friday that Khunying Pojaman, ex-wife of fugitive ex-PM Thaksin Shinawatra, will return to Bangkok on Friday night.

source: http://nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/r...newsid=30090307

Interesting timing for her possible return. Will it be straight to jail or will the courts allow her to remain free again?

Sadly, it looks like the second sentence is likely to prove true.

[easybullet3]

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whats the big deal??? so they cant go to england to live.

but they can take a tourist visa holiday there , (just like the "Al Fayed" - the man that owns harrods).. I am sure they can take many holidays in the UK.

and I am sure they can find several other countries they can live in!

this may be a minor hit to them, (they cant have residency status to the UK.. but they have the rest of the world!)

they wont come back to thailand... so whats the point of the story? its very far from big news!,, just a minor hit to them

No .... they cannot enter the UK at all (and are not likely to be issued a new visa) Did you not read the story?

ah ok.

(no I hadnt read the full story)

so, anyway, they now cant live in the UK. theres still another 190 countries to choose from!!

I am sure they can find a few that appeal to them!

[hammered]

Sorry folks I can almost hear the groan as this subject is raised again.I have been pondering the UK decision because in so many ways it was distinctly odd.The British Foreign Office's cunning isn't to be underestimated and the the only reason given (Thaksin's conviction in a Thai court of law) doesn't really convince.Only the simple minded would argue the courts haven't become deeply compromised here.The other unofficial reason given was the slightly sharp practice one that the UK wanted to avoid the no gain prospect of extradition proceedings.Possibly.

At the time I speculated whether UK intelligence services hadn't identified Thaksin getting involved in something completely out of order.Perhaps.However my current thinking is that the Brits had thought ahead about the elite's plan to dismantle democracy in Thailand.Clearly if the US/UK/EC wanted to nip this in the bud the perception that Thaksin has safe haven in London wouldn't have helped.Already I see the US, EC and UK are reminding Thailand about the need to adhere to real democracy (code for one man one vote and stick new politics up Sondhi's posterior).Thaksin sitting in UK would have been a distraction and easy target for the PAD zealots.

The Arabian Business News interview with Mr. T reported in the preamble that the UK had frozed some assets of Thaksin forcing him to sell Manchester City. Few seem to have picked up on this. Maybe it is just poor reporting that confused the asset freeze of Thailand with the UK. Maybe it is not.

[old wanderer]

The Arabian Business News interview with Mr. T reported in the preamble that the UK had frozed some assets of Thaksin forcing him to sell Manchester City. Few seem to have picked up on this. Maybe it is just poor reporting that confused the asset freeze of Thailand with the UK. Maybe it is not.

I have been hearing the same thing on the "street". Seems like the money he bought Manchester City with, was money he had hidden from declaring in Thailand....(i.e. dirty money), hence the freeze, until the matter can be clarified.

[jdinasia]

There's a copy of the actual (purported) e-mail here.

Their visa's have not been revoked.

Just more lies from the fazist PAD thugs.

Desperate moves by desperate people.

Oooops!

Was strolling through old posts working on a timeline and saw this post ..... again

[brahmburgers]

Seems like the money he bought Manchester City with, was money he had hidden from declaring in Thailand....(i.e. dirty money), hence the freeze, until the matter can be clarified.

Didn't a bunch of ThaiVisa posters say the same - when the deal was being bargained?

Whitehall and the British authorities should tune in to the banter on ThaiVisa. They could then make better-informed decisions on such things. As it happened, they were behind the 8 ball, and didn't realize Thaksin was corrupt to the core until after the Manchester deal was sealed.

[sriracha john]

UPDATE...Thaksin aide is now claiming that he has a new visa...

THAKSIN'S UK VISA

No word yet on about-turn: Abhisit

Fugitive ex-premier's aide claims residential visa already issued, but London still to respond to claim

Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and the Foreign Ministry yesterday denied knowledge of a reported about-turn by the United Kingdom that would allow political fugitive Thaksin Shinawatra to return to England.

The British Embassy was also tight-lipped over the report, which, if true, would become a diplomatic bombshell ahead of Abhisit's visits to the UK in the middle of this month, and again in April.

Some embassy officials suggested the embassy was in touch with London in a bid to find out if any action on Thaksin's visa had been taken.

The UK Home Office ordered revocation of Thaksin's visa last November, and official reasons appeared to be his conviction by the Thai courts in the Ratchadaphisek land case.

Abhisit said he was not aware of any UK visa U-turn. Some sources contacted by The Nation also doubted whether London would be willing to take such diplomatic risks ahead of Abhisit's visits.

Abhisit's Democrat Party spokesman Thepthai Senpong said the report could not be confirmed at the moment but he believed efforts were being made to get a response from London. The Thai Foreign Ministry also said it had not been notified of such UK action.

The report was attributed to an unnamed Thaksin aide who claimed that the former Thai leader had re-applied for residential visa in England and had been given one. The source claimed now England "has realised" that Thaksin's conviction was politically motivated.

Meanwhile, Thaksin's speech scheduled yesterday in Hong Kong has been postponed as organisers prepare the links for his phone-in. Abhisit yesterday maintained the government would do everything to get Thaksin to serve his legal punishment.

Thaksin told a foreign news agency in a phone interview he had postponed the speech because the Thai government was getting annoyingly paranoid.

Pongthep Thepkanjana, Spokesman of Thaksin, said the postponement of Thaksin's video-conference speech at Hong Kong's Foreign Correspondents' Club was not because of pressure from the Thai government. It was due to technical problems of the organisers connecting the signal [but] it had not been formally re-scheduled.

"I don't know whether Thaksin's speech will be broadcast live to Thailand. It depends on others, the organisers, not the former prime minister. Pongthep said he did not think it was possible for Pheu Thai MPs to go and meet Thaksin as he was no longer in Hong Kong. "I myself don't have a chance to meet him; we just made contact through e-mails," he said.

Jatuporn Prompan, a leader of the red shirt anti-government protesters, said Thaksin had confirmed a phone-in to every rally of the red shirts in the provinces.

The next rally will be in Khon Kaen on March 8, followed by Ayutthaya, Chanthaburi, and Chiang Mai.

Asked whether Thaksin's speeches by video conference would make it harder to arrest him, Abhisit said it was not easy to control a phone-in. Thaksin was still allowed to call Thailand.

Regarding Thaksin's possible extradition, the attorney-general was taking care of cooperation with China on that matter, Abhisit said.

"Any country having an extradition agreement [with Thailand] would have to follow the law," he said.

"However to request for an extradition is not easy," he said, citing the cases of Somchai Khunplome and Vatana Asavahame, who are fugitives abroad. "We have to process every case by every means we can, and that is a problem which the Justice Ministry is examining," Abhisit said.

"The government must take this issue seriously. Otherwise, it would mean that rich people can flee charges abroad and don't have to serve penalties according to the laws," he said.

- The Nation / 2009-03-03

Edited March 2, 2009 by sriracha john

[animatic]

More un-named Thaksin spokesmen with the truth to be told... yada yada yada.

There track record so often contradicts his own words who can believe them?

Just up country aimed propaganda sent off to the rumor mill.

[stumonster]

is the money that is frozen in the UK denominated in GBPeso ?

[hammered]

Be interesting to see what happens on this.

[Samuian]

part of the "Magicians Charades"....

in the meantime the opposition has nominated Chalerm for PM .....!

it's getting better all the time!

[animatic]

Can't make this stuff up.

Some how it's hard ro see Chalerm allowing 'the hand'

to remain too far up his posterior for too long.

A Samak loose cannon scenario fo Thaksin.

[sriracha john]

UK keeps mum on Thaksin visa

UK Ambassador to Thailand Quinton Quayle said Tuesday that he would not comment on "unfounded rumours" which UK had granted new visa for fugitive ex-Thai prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

He told reporters to ask Matichon newspaper that broke the story.

"I will not comment on unfounded rumour. You should ask Matichon newspaper," he said.

The Ambassador was speaking in the Human Trafficking Awareness Day in Bangkok at the Swissotel Nai Lert Park.

- The Nation / 2009-03-03

[hammered]

The government would be delighted if ousted premier Thaksin Shinawatra will go to the United Kingdom because then his whereabouts will be known and it would be easier to extradite him, Deputy government spokesman Puttipong Punnakan said Tuesday.

From the Post the games go on. The "unfounded rumours" comment by the ambassador is nice.

Rest at: http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/13...ksin-goes-to-uk

[Samuian]

Would he?

Would he go "back" to the UK if they granted him a new visa?

The risk to get arrested by Interpol is there, much, much higher then in HK!

But then..... is there in the UK some money frozen to?

[hammered]

Would he?

Would he go "back" to the UK if they granted him a new visa?

The risk to get arrested by Interpol is there, much, much higher then in HK!

But then..... is there in the UK some money frozen to?

Maybe he gets to live in the UK as opposed to some place not up to the usual standard he is accustomed to and as Abhisist said extradition is so hard. And maybe nobody could be bothered trying too hard especially if the commentaries dried up completely and he could live on the remaining $200m he is rumoured to have.

Plus he could do one and nut Giles for trying to do a Newin and knick a few more of his acolytes off of him

Anyway great time for uninformed but amusing speculation.

[sriracha john]

Embassy sources: No truth in Thaksin's story

British Ambassador to Thailand Quinton Quayle said Tuesday that he would not comment on "rumours" about the United Kingdom granting a visa for fugitive ex-prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

Although the envoy refused to say any further and the British Embassy remained officially tight-lipped over the report, informed embassy sources told The Nation that "there is no truth in the story" whatsoever.

The report was first seen on the Matichon website, prompting a flood of inquiries to the embassy on Monday.

The British ambassador said he would not comment on unfounded rumours and, half tongue-in-cheek, told reporters to question Matichon newspaper instead if they wanted any more information.

"I will not comment on unfounded rumours. You should ask Matichon Newspaper," he said.

The ambassador was speaking at the Human Trafficking Awareness Day event at Bangkok's Swissotel Nai Lert Park.

In answer to questions about the issue, Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva referred to the ambassador's remarks and said that granting visas to foreigners was each country's domestic affair, and that Thailand could not interfere.

Abhisit also refused to confirm if the extradition agreement that Thailand has with the UK would make it easier to bring Thaksin back. He just smiled.

Government spokesman Panitan Wattanayagorn said the UK has some exceptions in granting visa to foreign people who are contributing to the UK's business or having residences in the country.

However, police and attorney officers in charge of the case are doing their job, just as for other cases, he said.

Deputy government spokesman Puttipong Punnakan said if Thaksin is really allowed to stay in the UK, it would be easier for Thailand to find him and get him back to serve penalties as Thailand and the UK have an extradition agreement.

Pheu Thai MP for Lopburi Suchart Lainam-ngern said he had said he met Thaksin last month but nobody summoned him for investigation of Thaksin's whereabouts. It was although the government threatened to arrest Thaksin if he delivered speech in Hong Kong.

"The former prime minister also asked me to tell (Thais) that Thaksin would return to Thailand within six months to one year. He also said the only mistake he made was signing to allow his (then) wife to buy the (Ratchadaphisek) land," Suchart said.

Suchart said he did not know whether the UK granted visa for Thaksin. He did not talk to Thaksin's spokesman Pongthep Thepkanjana, either.

Thaksin's younger brother Payap said he did not know about Thaksin's visa as he had just came back from abroad.

Attorney-General spokesman Thanapit Mulpruek said the attorneys have contacted Hong Kong consular office for Thaksin's extradition but it depended on Hong Kong's laws and processes. They did not stop seeking Thaksin's address, either.

- The Nation / 2009-03-03