4 Grenades Explode Near Thailand's Anti-government Tv Station

[TAWP]

Explosions, gunfire heard near Government House

Captain Supradit Plengchawee, a military police, who inspected the scene at 2 am, said he received a phone call from a PAD guard, alerting about the gunfire.

Supradit said the PAD suspected that a group of assailants opened fire at the PAD guards on Phitsanulok Road from inside the Education Ministry.

Supradit said the military could not go inside the ministry to investigate because it was odd hour.

Source: The Nation - 27 November 2008

Thats what he said. What he meant was "those who live by the sword, die by the sword" stop bleating and get on with it.

If PAD-people dies in anonymous attacks or by the police hand = "Good", you say.

If DAAD/UDD-people dies in the hands of PAD people = "Very bad PAD", you say.

if PAD-people dies at the hands of DAAD/DAD-people = "Good", you say.

Yes, balanced and fair you are...

[Tigs]

Animatic

The prepondance of evidence shows Red side actually kills people,

not JUST fires weapons at the other side.

Attempted murder during melee certainly might be true.

As recently as last night in Chaing mai.

Man dragged from his car and shot by red side.

Because they don't like his PAD radio station operating son.

That's a chilling reason to die, your sons political affiliation.

I don't get what you are actually saying! Is it just that the Reds are better shots? I am confused why you consider it legitimate to JUST fire weapons at the other side. The intent is to kill, whether they hit someone or not.

What is really 'chilling' in terms of 'political affiliations' is how you and others are trying to justify the violence on respective sides. There is no justification. I believe that the leadership in PAD is inciting violence in order to raise the game and encourage military intervention.

The effects of the last few days will be really felt in the next few months. The tourist industry needs high season to survive the rest of the year. A friend of mine who has a travel agency has received countless cancellations in the last 48 hours. There will be 1000's of people lose their jobs over this latest stunt by PAD.

[LaoPo]

UPDATED:

Explosions, gunfire heard near Government House

Published on November 27, 2008;Thu, November 27, 2008 : Last updated 20:51 hours

Four explosions occurred at the Misakawan Intersection near the Government House early Thursday.

No one was injured in the incident, which happened at 4 am.

Guards of the People's Alliance for Democracy said grenades might be launched from the Education Ministry.

Some military police were deployed to check the scene immediately.

Earlier the day or at 2 am, five series of gunfire were heard on roads around the Government House. Each moment, about ten shots of firing were heard.

No one was injured either.

Police and guards of the People's Alliance for Democracy said the gunfire was heard from the Misakawan Intersection to the Wang Daeng Intersection.

Police found that a suspect detention truck was hit over a dozen of times. The truck's windshield as smashed by some of the bullets.

Police some of the shots were fired from a bunker made of tyres.

Captain Supradit Plengchawee, a military police, who inspected the scene at 2 am, said he received a phone call from a PAD guard, alerting about the gunfire.

Supradit said the PAD suspected that a group of assailants opened fire at the PAD guards on Phitsanulok Road from inside the Education Ministry.

Supradit said the military could not go inside the ministry to investigate because it was odd hour.

-The Nation

LaoPo

Edited November 27, 2008 by LaoPo

[permanent_disorder]

P-D, you were asked a straight question. Don't evade it so blythly.

List the dead on each side,

and then STATE which side is actually factually murderous.

Which side HAS killed people not directly attacking them face on.

The prepondance of evidence shows Red side actually kills people,

not JUST fires weapons at the other side.

Attempted murder during melee certainly might be true.

As recently as last night in Chaing mai.

Man dragged from his car and shot by red side.

Because they don't like his PAD radio station operating son.

That's a chilling reason to die, your sons political affiliation.

hhhmm.

first, listen. bring a link to a source that reports what happen in CM. and keep in mind what Plus had had postulate "With news coming so fast no one has any time to think beyond the initial knee-jerk response."

what does the police report say? what have been the circumstances? bring the Facts if you want start a debate.

i was asked a "stupid" question or got stupid demand. but i will not evade and reply /(blythly(?)

simple question why should i do here such a stupid list how many death or killing on each side? is that a sicko card & points game?

i have nothing to do with the team red, i saw how they got a disgusting beating on 2. september and one of them got killed by a PAD lynch mob and a 2nd victim seems to have died days later in the hospital. that was disturbing to see, those killing in the streets of bangkok. you can watch the videos of that night on youtube. and disgusting was it to read on TVforum all the excuses for that. if a yellow shirt died in an other clash before, sad, but it dosn't mean that they are now free to kill someone in revenche. NO. no way.

and i guess Plus has that statisic already, maybe a extra photoalbum for it. i guess more death on the yellow side? should they get sympathy points for that or what?

have they now a few killer attacks commit by them for free. a priori justified until they draw even? what kind of logic is that?

is that PAD strategy or just came up in a lunatic mind of a TVforum poster? what the next number in the next levels?

PAD as the great punisher, the final revenge. draw even with the death toll in Krue-Se mosque, that was thaksin fault and PAD will hunt down a few thaksinistas to free the country?

new Tak Bai, thaksins is guilty. hunt more thaksinistas down, golf glub them to death on the asphalt of bangkok. payback time , baby.

there are many points where i disagree with the PAD.

but even i would like thier leaders, would think their "new politics" and other ideas are cool concepts and so on. or think of them like some PAD supporters here dream of them. as a honest, justified peoples movement. the moment i would see that my "comrades" do such a act of sick violence i would walk away and would not like to be part of it anymore.

this is not just a question of a political opinion.

i don't march and team up with murderers.

who did this? the bombing?

a proPADler in this thread told us before is was done by red shirts, i asked him for evidence, but he didn't answer. guess he made this just up in his fantasy. no surprise for a PAD cult follower.

and does it make any of the PAD mob actions looks right or legal? NO, in no way. even if someone hwoever had throw a grenade against them, it's still a violent ugly mob.

i never hear from the PAD or on the TOC news that the PAD distance themself from such action. TOC channel keeps quite an does not any reports about. PAD keeps fingerpointing on others but keeps also quiet about own fault and flaws.

i just say that tthe grenade attacks from unknown justify in no way the violent PAD action and the guard behaivior.

whatever happen in CM. if you think in PAD logic and mourn about a martyr. just look through this thread you will find many (PAD style logic) apologies and justification how and why such violence occured where in the end people lay dead or wounded on the ground. you will find many variation. pick one up and look if it fits. just switch the shirt colour or names of the parties involved.

you can do that with my answer as well, switching colours. for such violence is no apoplogy and excuse.

how about just switch the colour in your comment:

This is a sad day. The film of the person opening fire with a revolver has been rapidly spread around the world. The effect on tourism is going to be enormous.

Yes, and if you look a bit closer you will see that behind the guy firing a gun is another moron holding up a picture of his majesty !!! Totally discraceful and utterly unacceptable . LM at its worst .

Yes absolutely disgraceful. This one piece of footage says a lot about the PAD. The PAD apologists should be ashamed.

No.

This video says a lot about 'One Person In a Mob'.

Nothing more.

according to your logic you can not just blame all reds or say "Red side actually kills people".

about what happen at the bangkok radia station we got a lot of information. even a video an also what the police reports.

i tried to find some news about what happend in CM by myself. found nothing in Bangkok Post or Nation. international news had one a line about what maybe happend. one reports spokes about that a it's have been yellow shirts killed someone. in general from was an entry spokes about that it is not clear to which side the dead belongs. didn't search for updates in the evening yet.

a CM resident reports in an other thread that was not the first time that clashes between those CM red and yellows occur.

if we know a little bit more about what happen in CM i can try to give you an answer.

going back in the time, look at those 6 red shirts on the photo or the other photos in the album. they still don't so look scary to me. and do you know that it was them involved in whatever happend in CM?

and i am still have the opinion, those 6 people and their woodensticks (self defence?) doesn't suit for finger pointing at them and take it as excuse and apology what was done by the PAD before.

in those photo album i don't see any the big evidence how bad the red shirts are. so also don't look like drunk, or got exported fro, other provinces. they look like a sample from the neighbourhood in that soi there. the wooden sticks doesn't make them look smart but also not scary or dangeroues.

TWAP asked for a reaction from PAD critics to this 13 pictures. (note:being a PAD critic doesn't mean that i am pro-Red or pro thaksin. ) that cult fan was disgruntled , so try to answer his request.. the picture or not mine, they popped up in an other thread.

i did never claim that the Reds are the nelson mandela team of thailand, that they are 100% peaceful or something else in that direction.

sometimes i requested some evidence or source that proves the claims that Reds are always drunk, only criminals and so on.

guess that must be mostly fantasy stories, i never got an answer, like above, it's h90 who claims red shirts had thrown the bombs.

PLus is also not now for the support all his claims with links to (older) news reports. nor i see lot's of your post are based on informations i can trace back with a mouse click.

my claims and arguments it try to support this way. remember this sentence from me: (bad grammar i know)

in todays enlightened post modern world is platos term of philosopher kings nothing more than an euphemism, a polite term to call someone backward and reactionary*, a semi-fascist farce*, ultra-nationalist right- wing*, Fascist Party*. a little bit of a joke*.

click on the stars and you will get to other webpages where you can see, thats this all quotes from academics and university lectures. thats the way a debatte should goes.

it's often claimed that the PADs are the higher eductated, but that was never proven. i did also ask directed to those educated PAD supporter to gave me some links or recommendation where i can find a academic paper of a political scientist or so, that is Pro-PAD. i would like to read that. give the PAD a chance to convince me or at least a few points don't just think of them as madmen.

i read a lot, but where proPADlers make their mind up is still a mystery to me.

such a discussions should not about to be TEH WINNARR, end in bickering or nut- or nitpicking, or name calling. such a forum is for sharing and exchange informations, opinions and ideas. and if you write something or answer someone you should also have a third or other silent readers in mind and keep it for them interresting as well. that will be the the one you maybe can convince of your position or provide at least some entertainment.

work with quotes and links is essential.

And so who do you two think has been killing PAD members for two weeks?

Tooth fairy, Easter bunny, Mary Magdalen?

Oh yeah, you think it IS PAD members...

i don't know it.

if you just look who could make the most profit of it if the PAD got bombed, maybe you come to an conclusion, speculation, answer that sounds plausible or maybe not? ru for real?

killer government? why? or people who want bring a sacrifice? sure? nahh. maybe just a pyromaniac with grenades. mhm why not? a vigilante group? mhm, which one?

misfits? russian mafia? the third man? racketeers, blackmailer? north korean secret service? The Cooperation Cut Flowers-Dok Mai Fah North Lampang & Ltd. Partnership (Export Permit # FY-4-31-547)? think in every direction! maybe different groups and not only one.

i have no idea. know only one for sure - they are criminals, dirty scumbags, coward... and so on ( my vocabulary on swearwords is small and not so creative, also maybe against the rules. but you get the drift.) the culprits and people behind should be reborn as cockroach.

is your questions rethorical? do you have someone in mind? TWAP accussed my "to denying that groups/factions oppose to the PAD is most likely to be the ones sending grenades "

but isn't given a theory why. the accusation i would deny there something seems als little bit odd. how i should know it. and did he admit that other things are evident? No, but he use the bombings to point in other directions. also a few others used them as argument for excuse and apology. mhm, i don't get it.

those bombings happen since decades. also the odd grenade launcher attack from the tollway into a car park building. the new years bombs. who was it? did they ever caught one bomb planter? traced them to somewhere?

mostly only small bombs. like someone will give a sginal. a warning. but for what? a red heering? for what? i dont know by i guess the step from a small bomb to build a real big one isn't be so difficult

for entertaiment value here a short extract from over 20 years old news. posted not to prove whatever theory here, just for show how strange that all is. and how interessting the NYtimes archiveÖ

" Politician's Home Bombed

The recent events follow the bombing in March of the home of another civilian politician, Samak Sundaravej, the leader of the parliamentary opposition. Two army sergeants, traced through their motorcycle registrations, were arrested by the Bangkok police after the blast.

They were then turned over to the army, and nothing more has been heard about the case.

Thailand, one of Southeast Asia's rapidly developing nations, has been making slow progress toward a democratic system, punctuated by coups and coup attempts, the most recent in September 1985.

As an educated middle class emerges, civilian technocrats have been moving into public industries and private sector positions formerly dominated by military officers whose management critics say has often been inefficient and corrupt."

read more here- http://tinyurl.com/6x3963 - link to NY times article form : April 10, 1987

[Moonrakers]

hhhmm.

<Very Big Mahoosive Snip>

Not you again.

Chill out.

[Wuffy]

hhhmm.

<Very Big Mahoosive Snip>

Not you again.

Chill out.

That's rather rude and demeaning.

He put time and effort and went through his thoughts and arguments logically explained himself.

Would you accept after giving a long explanation about why you think a certain way someone went. "Talk to the Hand."

If you don't have anything to discuss about what he said Don't.

Being outright offense by being dismissive accomplishes nothing.

While I may not agree with anything P-D has to say he is correct in saying we don't actually know.

It could easily be any number of people.

Heck it could be some d*ck who thought. "Hey these guys are pretty pissed with each other... How about making them angrya t each other."

TL;DR If you aren't going to discuss what he said &lt;deleted&gt;.

[LaoPo]

Breakingnews - The Nation

ASTV head office hit with bomb attacks

Published on November 28, 2008;November 28, 2008 : Last updated 04:41 am

A news announcer was slightly injured when ASTV's head office was attacked with bombs.

An ASTV security guard, Pornchai Sanguanpoj, 41, told police that the assailants arrived on a white boat and threw two bombs against the head office on Phra Arthit Road at 2 am.

Pornchai said the assailants also fired an M79 at the building.

The explosions shattered the glass windows of ASTV, and Natthawut Mitmak, a TV announcer, suffered cuts over his hand while he was ducking for cover.

But ASTV officials would not allow police to enter the compound to investigate.

Pornchai himself was arrested when police found 6 rounds of 11-mm caliber pistol on him. He said he was shooting back at the assailants when police arrived at the scene so he threw his gun into the river.

-The Nation

LaoPo

[LaoPo]

Breakingnews -The Nation

ASTV security official arrested following bomb attack

Published on November 28, 2008;November 28, 2008 : Last updated 04:41 am

A news announcer was slightly injured when ASTV's head office was attacked with bombs.

An ASTV security guard, Pornchai Sanguanpoj, 41, told police that the assailants arrived on a white boat and threw two bombs against the head office on Phra Arthit Road at 2 am.

Pornchai said the assailants also fired an M79 at the building.

The explosions shattered the glass windows of ASTV, and Natthawut Mitmak, a TV announcer, suffered cuts over his hand while he was ducking for cover.

But ASTV officials would not allow police to enter the compound to investigate.

Pornchai himself was arrested when police found 6 rounds of 11-mm caliber pistol on him. He said he was shooting back at the assailants when police arrived at the scene so he threw his gun into the river.

-The Nation

LaoPo

[Rinrada]

Pornchai himself was arrested when police found 6 rounds of 11-mm caliber pistol on him.

He said he was shooting back at the assailants when police arrived at the scene so he threw his gun into the river.

C'Mon..............

[Plus]

hhhmm.

<Very Big Mahoosive Snip>

Not you again.

Chill out.

That's rather rude and demeaning.

PD has a history of posting long, colorful presentations filled with what many think is a sheer nonsense, and often based on three month old off topic news. Then often he copy-pastes them in every available thread.

I don't think I've ever read any of them til the end, so "mahoosive snip" is a natural reaction I can relate to.

I'd say it's rude and demeaning to subject people to reading his posts - he should get a blog or something, this is a discussion forum, you are supposed to talk TO the people, not AT them.

[Wuffy]

hhhmm.

<Very Big Mahoosive Snip>

Not you again.

Chill out.

That's rather rude and demeaning.

PD has a history of posting long, colorful presentations filled with what many think is a sheer nonsense, and often based on three month old off topic news. Then often he copy-pastes them in every available thread.

I don't think I've ever read any of them til the end, so "mahoosive snip" is a natural reaction I can relate to.

I'd say it's rude and demeaning to subject people to reading his posts - he should get a blog or something, this is a discussion forum, you are supposed to talk TO the people, not AT them.

That a rather fair comment.

The only thing I was against was the simple Hand waiving and dismissal.

You explained yourself.

And thank you for that.

[Moonrakers]

hhhmm.

<Very Big Mahoosive Snip>

Not you again.

Chill out.

That's rather rude and demeaning.

PD has a history of posting long, colorful presentations filled with what many think is a sheer nonsense, and often based on three month old off topic news. Then often he copy-pastes them in every available thread.

I don't think I've ever read any of them til the end, so "mahoosive snip" is a natural reaction I can relate to.

I'd say it's rude and demeaning to subject people to reading his posts - he should get a blog or something, this is a discussion forum, you are supposed to talk TO the people, not AT them.

Good call plus.

My sentiments exactly.

[permanent_disorder]

PD has a history of posting long, colorful presentations filled with what many think is a sheer nonsense, and often based on three month old off topic news. Then often he copy-pastes them in every available thread.

I don't think I've ever read any of them til the end, so "mahoosive snip" is a natural reaction I can relate to.

I'd say it's rude and demeaning to subject people to reading his posts - he should get a blog or something, this is a discussion forum, you are supposed to talk TO the people, not AT them.

nah, your are just pissed off because i ask you from time to time to provide also a link to your claims or name a source.

and yeah it's a discussion forum, but your rarley take your time for other opinion, or be able to answer with manner. TL,DR. or just you say "that not true" .

and you try to prohibit that this discussion forum becomes a pluralistic pool of shared opinion.. with things you not agree with you want get deleted, the thread closed and so on.

you go often quite ballistics if you spot an entry you don't want like to here. or harrass members that wrote such entries. bullying them im mob together with other members, those typical only onliner poster. just like above.

and with post/entries that in the majority not longer than only 4 or 5 lines you should maybe go to an chat room. redundant galore are you as well.

if you want be the editor and decide what should be published and what have no place, it's you who should open his on blog, instead of trolling around in a discussion forum.

you are dishonest. and you know that you are dishonest. not a shamed to write a lie. just like above.

but back to topic. what is with that killing in CM? any updates, can you give a link that tells us what happend there, instead of only your version in 13 words? care to shar your informations instead of just

[TAWP]

PD>> Please go back and reply to the posts you have conveniently jumped over if you want to have more text to type. You seem to ignore any questions or posts you cannot retort in some dismissive fashion, so...

Or how about actually countering the points posed in the posts you reply to, without resorting to fantasies or hyperbole.

[permanent_disorder]

PD>> Please go back and reply to the posts you have conveniently jumped over if you want to have more text to type. You seem to ignore any questions or posts you cannot retort in some dismissive fashion, so...

Or how about actually countering the points posed in the posts you reply to, without resorting to fantasies or hyperbole.

you talking about what? can you be more precise?

"

so i didtn't spot one of your "witty" bickerings? sorry. now you are the WINNNARRR., "you got me" , No.

you know, my time is limited. i also like to read a lot. and can not aswer all the time. such a communication should be also not an oneway street, if people are unable to give a qualified feedback, but just calling me a troll, why should i further bother with them. they will never give me an interesting read.

but if you are interessted in to hear my opionion to a certain point or whatever is your desire i would like to answer, if i can. i could't not answer your question who is throwing the grenades at the PAD.

speculations can go in many directions. i wish them that of grenade just explode to early i their bag and finit, reborn a cockroach.

why didn't you rephrase your question, be more elaborate, so i kann see that it is an important request from you.

i did go back ceck for questions, but must admit i didn't found anything challenging or i did ignore because "you got me". and it's not about to be the WINNARRR.

anyway, i think i could be funny to countering your point. if there is something like this.

and where i have been unjusttfied dismissive? resorting on fantasies hyberbole. why didn't you gave me an fine example how to countering point for point.

btw. i consider myself as liberterian. and one of the most disgusting PAD stage clowns is union uncle somsuck. don't you think so? how can anyone even if only with a little but functional brain bear longer than 2 - 3 minutes..

[jdinasia]

PD>> Please go back and reply to the posts you have conveniently jumped over if you want to have more text to type. You seem to ignore any questions or posts you cannot retort in some dismissive fashion, so...

Or how about actually countering the points posed in the posts you reply to, without resorting to fantasies or hyperbole.

Why are you bothering?

[animatic]

hhhmm.

<Very Big Mahoosive Snip>

Not you again.

Chill out.

That's rather rude and demeaning.

PD has a history of posting long, colorful presentations filled with what many think is a sheer nonsense, and often based on three month old off topic news. Then often he copy-pastes them in every available thread.

I don't think I've ever read any of them til the end, so "mahoosive snip" is a natural reaction I can relate to.

I'd say it's rude and demeaning to subject people to reading his posts - he should get a blog or something, this is a discussion forum, you are supposed to talk TO the people, not AT them.

That a rather fair comment.

The only thing I was against was the simple Hand waiving and dismissal.

You explained yourself.

And thank you for that.

Wuffy, there's a history there.

He's far from the only one with similar sentiments.

He's no Karl Popper, except in his own estimation...

Rather than put dozens of alleged 'positive corroborations' to make a point,

one should try looking at their points and refute them,

if refutation, proves futile, then maybe it IS a valid hypothosis.

Edited November 28, 2008 by animatic

[Steve2UK]

PD>> Please go back and reply to the posts you have conveniently jumped over if you want to have more text to type. You seem to ignore any questions or posts you cannot retort in some dismissive fashion, so...

Or how about actually countering the points posed in the posts you reply to, without resorting to fantasies or hyperbole.

Pot calling the kettle black again. There's still an inconvenient question waiting for you to answer in another thread* - along with Plus and Animatic. But, of course, it's easier - not to say predictable - for you to move on.

*Pad Announcement To The International Press, Airport Closure

[animatic]

Oh yeah,

well how about a clue which of dozens of questions you mean?

I generally don't respond to boiler plate rants or inconclusive repeats.

Edited November 28, 2008 by animatic

[Steve2UK]

Oh yeah,

well how about a clue which of dozens of questions you mean?

I generally don't respond to boiler plate rants or inconclusive repeats.

I don't indulge in "boiler plate rants". But here's a repeat (maybe inconclusive to you) of the one question I asked you:

If Thaksin could be so easily ousted while he was in full possession of the levers of state - what makes you think he could come back to power now that

- he/his wife are seen as indicted/convicted bail-jumpers

- a large slice of his political supporters are already excluded from politics for 5 years

- the PPP/ex-TRT party is faced with dissolution/exclusion from politics for 5 years

- his Army/Police placemen have been moved to posts where they have next to no potential to even influence events let alone act on his behalf

- a disproportionately powerful PAD rump would swell with greater popular support

etc etc etc

[animatic]

Oh yeah,

well how about a clue which of dozens of questions you mean?

I generally don't respond to boiler plate rants or inconclusive repeats.

I don't indulge in "boiler plate rants". But here's a repeat (maybe inconclusive to you) of the one question I asked you:

If Thaksin could be so easily ousted while he was in full possession of the levers of state -

what makes you think he could come back to power now that

- he/his wife are seen as indicted/convicted bail-jumpers

- a large slice of his political supporters are already excluded from politics for 5 years

- the PPP/ex-TRT party is faced with dissolution/exclusion from politics for 5 years

- his Army/Police placemen have been moved to posts where they have next to no potential to even influence events let alone act on his behalf

- a disproportionately powerful PAD rump would swell with greater popular support

etc etc etc

Ok, it's been busy here and I had NOT seen this.

Thaksin was out of the country when the coup happened.

He was showing strong signs of mental illness, and he was caught napping.

He was too chicken to come back in till he had gotten what he THOUGHT was an upper hand.

Turned out Samak was just too slow doing the re-write of laws retroactively.

Well the crux at the moment is the current cabinets intentions to change the charter,

and that has caused the PAD marches on Parliment last week and in Oct.

All those ostensibly BANNED TRT guys including Yaowapa his sister have a "War Room"

in the Shiniwatra Buliding in Bangkok and regularly have meetings and planning sessions with PPP MP's

These guys blatantly control their 2nd string players now in office,

but who are slightly loose cannons, so ET phone home before most decisions.

It has been blatantly stated by loose lipped PPP MP's that they expect to :

Forgive all TRT banned execs and reinstate them.

Change the law to get Thaksin off the hook for all charges ongoing and retro-actively.

Change the law before PPP is dissolved officially which really set off this weeks bruhaha.

Not so many or enough of Thaksins Army and Police chess moves

have been deactivated enough to be no risk officers.

Anupong is a quite wary man these days.

He feels enough of their breath not to blink, but in this situation,

how long can he stay on point without a break?

If Thaksin's crime is wiped off the books, ipso facto he isn't convicted...

They just legislate it as 'correcting a mistaken law' that goes back in time.

Same for Potty, of course they want to hobble the courts as much as possible.

Same as he tried back when in power.

Also this weeks move to nullify the NCCC, and moves to neuter the Privy Council.

PAD rump... HUH, no clue what this indicates. ???

There are some moves he has made that can't be talked about... period.

But Thaksin being given free reign again with a vengefull attitude

is the stuff of nightmares. V for Vendetta....

And he has indicated the gloves are off

and the bank balance is open for political business.

He is by far the bigest threat to long term stability, even above

loses from this week and the collapsing economy.

The collapsing economy actualy works in his favor,

easier to bribe and bargain in lean times, than in flush times.

And main reason to be scared is 'TIT'. Anything can happen.

Edited November 28, 2008 by animatic