StevieH Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 does anupong ordering a dissolution mean that the PAD will leave the airport and allow it to get back to normal operations / clearing the backlog? hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshbags Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) can someone who speaks thai better than me tune to channel three NOW and tell us what they are saying or are all of u far away form thailand??NO there are still passangers at the airport. they just interviewd a lady with kids there someo0ne get there wife to tune to channel 3 and tell us what he is saying... he is pretty saying what the military can do, if they will so anything. also if your tv have bilingual mode, they have a translator for english. The Nation, Breaking news, November 26, 2008 : Last updated 04:53 pm Situation-monitoring panel suggests House dissolution, end of rallies Army Commander-in-Chief Gen Anupong Paochinda Wednesday suggested the government to dissolve the House and asked the protesters to end their protesters immediately. Anupong was speaking to reporters after a meeting of the task force set up to monitor the political situation. He said the committee came up with sincere proposals for both sides. The Nation Unquote On all channels as of now the interview is ongoing and live. 17.08 He has just said in answer to a specific question on what Somchai should do.......He must / has to resign marshbags Edited November 26, 2008 by marshbags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scratt Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 CLARIFICATION: The Thai Army has urged the government to call elections, and asked protestors to leave the airport. None of this is confirmed or happening. It's simply a first move by the army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketrichard Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Anaupong is calling for disolution of Parliment. Paassgers interviewd say they have no idea whats going on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quiksilva Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I think the operative word here is that Anupong suggests that the government dissolve the house and the protesters leave the airport. Its not an order, yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mosha Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Who was the guy in civilian dress at the press conference? Any one else note he had a yellow tie on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKAsok Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Anupong - Believes the government will see the benefit of dissolving parliament and again urges the media to relay the message to the protesters. Again maintains a written document will be presented to the government - this is the best solution. No other way for the PM to hand back power to the people. Not out to pressure the government but the proposal is a 'suggestion' to 'help the country.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surface Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 The amicable solution is to elect a new government? As if there any question as to which side the army is on. This country is helpless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuketrichard Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 he cant order it ONLY calling on the goverment to do the right thing and pad to leave before it goes to far seems resonable to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 suggesting, hinting, recommending. . . .anupong usually comes across as the most sensible person around in these palavers so i'd hope that somchai would be paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKAsok Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) Anupong - urges media to explain the benefit of the proposal to the public. Media shouldn't report that the military is pressuring the government, since this will only make things worse for the country. "Country has suffered enough" "Military intervention is no way out" Edited November 26, 2008 by MKAsok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marshbags Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) Who was the guy in civilian dress at the press conference? Any one else note he had a yellow tie on? If he,s in a dress the mind boggles On a serious note those in uniform along side Gen. Anupong suggest Somchai should do what the yellow shirts want him to do, if he loves Thailand RESIGN You cannot get more to the point than that IMHO..........diplomatically speaking of course marshbags Edited November 26, 2008 by marshbags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandpops Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 The amicable solution is to elect a new government? As if there any question as to which side the army is on. This country is helpless. A mob of a few thousand brings the Thai army to its knees. If the Army want to call the shots, let them stage a coup. Do it properly or butt out of electoral issues. Stick to shooting and torturing Lao and Burmese immigrants. Lucky Thailand still has a strong leader in Thaksin waiting in the wings. A leader whose popularity just increased 10 fold with this blancmanges appearance on Thai TV. Can't act, won't act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdinasia Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 The amicable solution is to elect a new government? As if there any question as to which side the army is on. This country is helpless. Why is it hard to see that the Army in staying neutral is preventing escalation? Neutral --- It is not the Army's job to deal with political messes though they often have in their past! I think Thai people should be proud of how the military has reacted in this crisis. Instead of making a power grab (which is what the PAD wanted) the military seems to be forcing a diplomatic resolution to the problems here. The current government has no credibility anywhere and the PAD is not a political party. The Democrats have stayed out of the fray almost entirely but they could step in at this point to ensure that the government is dissolved and do so with honor, by resigning en masse. (Since the Roman Empire , using the military as a police force in your own country has seemed to be a bad idea in countries that were not military dictatorships.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 can someone who speaks thai better than me tune to channel three NOW and tell us what they are saying or are all of u far away form thailand??NO there are still passangers at the airport. they just interviewd a lady with kids there someo0ne get there wife to tune to channel 3 and tell us what he is saying... he is pretty saying what the military can do, if they will so anything. also if your tv have bilingual mode, they have a translator for english. The Nation, Breaking news, November 26, 2008 : Last updated 04:53 pm Situation-monitoring panel suggests House dissolution, end of rallies Army Commander-in-Chief Gen Anupong Paochinda Wednesday suggested the government to dissolve the House and asked the protesters to end their protesters immediately. Anupong was speaking to reporters after a meeting of the task force set up to monitor the political situation. He said the committee came up with sincere proposals for both sides. The Nation Unquote On all channels as of now the interview is ongoing and live. 17.08 He has just said in answer to a specific question on what Somchai should do.......He must / has to resign marshbags There were so many things they government "must" resign and ever other government (beside Myanmar maybe) would have resigned 10 times already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 After coining the phrase to explain the last coup "The country needed rebooting", it would appear that the country has reached the blue screen of death. Recommending, suggesting may not be enough to move this process forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 can someone who speaks thai better than me tune to channel three NOW and tell us what they are saying or are all of u far away form thailand??NO there are still passangers at the airport. they just interviewd a lady with kids there someo0ne get there wife to tune to channel 3 and tell us what he is saying... he is pretty saying what the military can do, if they will so anything. also if your tv have bilingual mode, they have a translator for english. The Nation, Breaking news, November 26, 2008 : Last updated 04:53 pm Situation-monitoring panel suggests House dissolution, end of rallies Army Commander-in-Chief Gen Anupong Paochinda Wednesday suggested the government to dissolve the House and asked the protesters to end their protesters immediately. Anupong was speaking to reporters after a meeting of the task force set up to monitor the political situation. He said the committee came up with sincere proposals for both sides. The Nation Unquote On all channels as of now the interview is ongoing and live. 17.08 He has just said in answer to a specific question on what Somchai should do.......He must / has to resign marshbags Reasonable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinnieTheKhwai Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Please see this new topic about Gen. Anupong's call for the dissolution of parliament:www.thaivisa.com/forum/Gen-Anupong-suggests-House-dissolu-t225219.html -- Maestro And that has /what/ to do with the airport topic? I assume it's now okay again to have a wider debate about the situation? If a topic is only about the airport or travel situation then there does exist a spanking Suvarnabhumi sub-forum on this site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamSabai Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Terrorists wins then... If this is confirmed, I will never invest one more baht in this country... They just confirmed officially their status of 3rd world, banana republic country. Sad day indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
churchill Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I suppose that if you keep on demanding re-elections you will eventually ------------------------------get a result that you are happy with . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuian Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Please see this new topic about Gen. Anupong's call for the dissolution of parliament:www.thaivisa.com/forum/Gen-Anupong-suggests-House-dissolu-t225219.html -- Maestro And that has /what/ to do with the airport topic? I assume it's now okay again to have a wider debate about the situation? If a topic is only about the airport or travel situation then there does exist a spanking Suvarnabhumi sub-forum on this site. It's obvious isn't it? If the Government dissolves, Premier resigns, no reason for PAD to continue protests and occupations.... simple! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieH Posted November 26, 2008 Author Share Posted November 26, 2008 After coining the phrase to explain the last coup "The country needed rebooting", it would appear that the country has reached the blue screen of death.Recommending, suggesting may not be enough to move this process forward. the country may perhaps need a full defrag, a reinstall of java and possibly even hitting with a hammer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frodo Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I must say that I have respect for the general. He doesn't want a coup and unlike both the government, PAD, UDD, and whatever else is out there, he is at least trying to find a solution to the problem. I would hope is parliament is dissolved and Somchai steps down, that PAD will follow the lead and disperse as well. It's hard to tell with either side though. PPP's only goal so far has not been in the public's interest, but rather their own by continually wanting to save Thaksin's ass as well the 111 banned politicans. Never once have they had the country's best interest in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave9988 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 The amicable solution is to elect a new government? As if there any question as to which side the army is on. This country is helpless. Why is it hard to see that the Army in staying neutral is preventing escalation? Neutral --- It is not the Army's job to deal with political messes though they often have in their past! I think Thai people should be proud of how the military has reacted in this crisis. Instead of making a power grab (which is what the PAD wanted) the military seems to be forcing a diplomatic resolution to the problems here. The current government has no credibility anywhere and the PAD is not a political party. The Democrats have stayed out of the fray almost entirely but they could step in at this point to ensure that the government is dissolved and do so with honor, by resigning en masse. (Since the Roman Empire , using the military as a police force in your own country has seemed to be a bad idea in countries that were not military dictatorships.) from now on anytime Son L does not like the elected gov he knows its just a protest away from dissolution at some point you have to take a stand appeasing terrorists does not work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAWP Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Lucky Thailand still has a strong leader in Thaksin waiting in the wings. A leader whose popularity just increased 10 fold with this blancmanges appearance on Thai TV. Are you saying that you would prefer Thaksin to come back and lead? Is it then correct to label you pro-Thaksin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammered Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 The amicable solution is to elect a new government? As if there any question as to which side the army is on. This country is helpless. A mob of a few thousand brings the Thai army to its knees. If the Army want to call the shots, let them stage a coup. Do it properly or butt out of electoral issues. Stick to shooting and torturing Lao and Burmese immigrants. Lucky Thailand still has a strong leader in Thaksin waiting in the wings. A leader whose popularity just increased 10 fold with this blancmanges appearance on Thai TV. Can't act, won't act. You do seem to favour a bloodbath over adults talking. The last poll conducted after Thaksins speech showed his popularity declined by quite a lot. The popularity of the PAD and the government were also down. What is wrong with an election over a bloodbath? Why would anyone also call for a coup? There are increasing numbers of Thais sick of the whole lot of em. Lets give them a chance to decide, and if reelected with an overall majoirty this time the PPP will no doubt then have a mandate for their constitutional ammendments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai at Heart Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I must say that I have respect for the general. He doesn't want a coup and unlike both the government, PAD, UDD, and whatever else is out there, he is at least trying to find a solution to the problem.I would hope is parliament is dissolved and Somchai steps down, that PAD will follow the lead and disperse as well. It's hard to tell with either side though. PPP's only goal so far has not been in the public's interest, but rather their own by continually wanting to save Thaksin's ass as well the 111 banned politicans. Never once have they had the country's best interest in mind. And if they win again? Groundhog day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
esprit Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 The amicable solution is to elect a new government? As if there any question as to which side the army is on. This country is helpless. Why is it hard to see that the Army in staying neutral is preventing escalation? Neutral --- It is not the Army's job to deal with political messes though they often have in their past! I think Thai people should be proud of how the military has reacted in this crisis. Instead of making a power grab (which is what the PAD wanted) the military seems to be forcing a diplomatic resolution to the problems here. The current government has no credibility anywhere and the PAD is not a political party. The Democrats have stayed out of the fray almost entirely but they could step in at this point to ensure that the government is dissolved and do so with honor, by resigning en masse. (Since the Roman Empire , using the military as a police force in your own country has seemed to be a bad idea in countries that were not military dictatorships.) from now on anytime Son L does not like the elected gov he knows its just a protest away from dissolution at some point you have to take a stand appeasing terrorists does not work It worked for David Bengurian and a whole host of IRA terrorists to name only 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandpops Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Terrorists wins then...If this is confirmed, I will never invest one more baht in this country... They just confirmed officially their status of 3rd world, banana republic country. Sad day indeed. Did you hear the fat lady sing... Neither did I and this has miles and miles to run. There will be frantic work behind the scenes to remove this General and now there will be massive public support for his removal. Remember they were the ones who put in place an electoral system of courts and checks and balances to ensure that TRT/PPP never got a whiff of power again. How well they did with that! PAD lovers. Did the good general not mention that PAD can stand in these elections? I think if you check the charter they can. Its also a masterstroke on his part to screw the season even more. Three months of campaining and shootings, then two or three weekends of bar closures in high season. Masterstroke, by this rate we will all be on the bones of our asses by xmas. Very quiet from the reds still.... too quiet mark my words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h90 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 Terrorists wins then...If this is confirmed, I will never invest one more baht in this country... They just confirmed officially their status of 3rd world, banana republic country. Sad day indeed. No problem many others will invest some more Baht when the corruption is reduced and the land gets a democratic elected government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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