SmugFarangBore Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 He already re-offended while he was out on bail after the initial arrest so he should never have been given even a chance of bail after sentence was passed and he was convicted IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adjan jb Posted January 31, 2009 Share Posted January 31, 2009 These threads have a habit of bringing out the morons. They certainly do. Welcome, where have you been hiding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakhar Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Dakhar,If that is how it happened, then there is no doubt that person is guilty of an offence......but bleeding hearts will tell you, if hes rich and famous or related to someone that is (the elite) then he can pay the right people to drag that case through every court in the land & remain free whilst doing so until some idiot rules in his favour & he eventually walks free. What a joke. What happened to that guy, do you know? I could be wrong, but I think the cops claim they found a body in a hotel room with a suicide note, apologizing for throwing the rock... But I can't remember for sure if this was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackr Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Hang the bastard! How's that for a Sunday morning? Scum of this nature just do not deserve the right of appeal. If it was an accident then fair enough, but he seriously needs to be made an example of. I know that if any of mine were taken out by him because he got his knickers in a twist, he wouldn't be enjoying the spoils of fresh air for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangfroid Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) Chalerm's son had to do a year on remand for murdering a policeman.I reckon Moo Ham will do a few month's for murdering a junior level BMTA employee. He will be found not guilty on appeal. Alternatively he could be immediately released on bail and never serve a day. No chance he'll do anywhere near 10 years. Thailand's system of seniority (his uncle is a very senior retired policeman and his parents are seriously rich businesspeople) would not allow him to serve 10 years. Just saw it on Thai TV They said the court rejected that he was mentally unfit to stand trial, adding that this came from being a sloiled child. Didn't say whether he was allowed bail. Can Anyone confirm if he's inside now? He was released on 6 million Baht bail the same afternoon that he was sentenced!! Edited February 1, 2009 by sangfroid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangfroid Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 (edited) "The court initially gave him a 15-year jail term for attempted murder and another two months in prison for assaulting others. As he confessed to the charges, the court reduced the sentence by a third to 10 years and one month in jail."This was from the Bangkok post article, so I assumed his plea was a reason for his sentence being reduced. He had his sentence reduced because of the compensation that his father has already paid to the victims Edited February 1, 2009 by sangfroid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangfroid Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 He already re-offended while he was out on bail after the initial arrest so he should never have been given even a chance of bail after sentence was passed and he was convicted IMO. According to Thai press, in another traffic related incident he is alleged to have smashed a guys face with a rock. 50K baht to the victim saw that one kept quiet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackspratt Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 I don't really care about what they call it in the UK. I was referring as you might remember about Australia, that was my original comment that you critised me about. If you do your research in Australia you will find that there has been much revision in relation to the word 'Accident' and its meaning within the law. It is now common for the word 'accident' to be reserved for those incidents which are truely accidents and the word 'collision', 'impact' or 'crash' to be used where blame can be attributed towards someone. If you look at some of the definitions of the word accident, you may see things like "anything that happens suddenly or by chance without an apparent cause" and many other versions of this. Many accidents are NOT ACCIDENTS, there is a reason or cause for what happened. Its only a play of words. I don't need to google things that relate to this, as it is an area in which I specialised for a great number of years, I am well qualified and experience in the field. If you doubt what I am saying, have a squiz at the actual legislation wording below, you won't see the word 'accident' mentioned anywhere, but rather words like 'impact'. That legislation is section 52A of the Crimes Act of New South Wales, its all there & I guarantee you wont see the word accident mentioned. As for this incident here in thailand....no part of it was an accident! And if you do your research neverdie, you will know there are 8 different criminal codes in Australia (1 for each of the states and territories) covering various categories of vehicular offences. And all with their own definitions and terminologies. In other words (as I think I have said before), NSW is not Australia (just a small part of it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackspratt Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Thats an interesting result. In my home country many drivers who drive dangerously & kill people often leave court with little or no jail time at all. Its good to see the thai court is taken this so seriously. Having said that, typically, the offender gets 10 years, the victim gets life! It's the same in the uk mate , the courts hand out ridiculously leniant sentances and then claim that their hands are tied. You have to feel sorry for the police sometimes when they risk their lives catching these people ........................................... Can you point to some examples of where the police have "risked their lives" catching drivers who have killed people by driving dangerously. Or is that just a little bit of hyperbole? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinthailand Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Kanpitak's parents indicated he has a mental condition and he cannot control himself when he is under a lot of stress.Kanpitak's parents meant to say that they raised a spoiled child without respect for other people and without any concept of social responsibility and gave him every material thing he could ever want while also making sure to use their affluence to ensure that he never experienced any truly negative repercussions from his increasingly volatile behavior and the end result is an insecure sociopath who cannot control himself when his fragile ego is punctured however slightly and who should be locked up to protect the rest of society as well as to be punished for murdering/injuring several people. Their publicist thought this version was better, though.EDIT: Let me add that I honestly can't believe this sentence. I'm looking forward to seeing if he serves it and hoping that he is forced to. I didn't expect even this much recognition of his crimes given the history of the case and the prominence of the family. For some reason, no criminal case in my brief several years of living here has been so symbolic to me of the class divides as this one and for that reason I've taken an unnecessary interest in it. EDIT/EDIT: Stupid grammatical error. In the end the monster is 21yrs old, he'll have some tough decission to make in jail, I think he's old enough. There will be a lot of criminals already in there ready to teach him a lesson when that little temper comes up again. My guess it will happen on day one. and if you were in the same jail you would take him on, knowing his family. however the appeal process will delay his entry for some months, years, decades ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neverdie Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Thats an interesting result. In my home country many drivers who drive dangerously & kill people often leave court with little or no jail time at all. Its good to see the thai court is taken this so seriously. Having said that, typically, the offender gets 10 years, the victim gets life! It's the same in the uk mate , the courts hand out ridiculously leniant sentances and then claim that their hands are tied. You have to feel sorry for the police sometimes when they risk their lives catching these people ........................................... Can you point to some examples of where the police have "risked their lives" catching drivers who have killed people by driving dangerously. Or is that just a little bit of hyperbole? Jackspratt, firstly on your other point....I don't need to do my research about Australia, I am Australian & having operated in my role in most areas of Australia I am well educated in relation to the different laws of the states. Thanks for your attempt though, I really appreciate you constant attempt to teach me about my homeland. I chose NSW as an example because it is the most populist state.....which state would you like me to quote....this blog is about thailand, so I wasnt too interested in quoting all of the Aussie figures. As to Malcy's point above, I can think of a number of seperate occassions in a number of states where police have risked their own lives to apprehend offenders that have killed people through dangerous driving. I am sure this has happened many time around the world including Thailand. I cannot state any case where this has happened in Thailand, but I know of serveral back in Aust. You seem to have some resentment towards anyone like Malcy, who may show sympathy towards law enforcement officers throughout the world. I would put it to you the only hyperbole here is you jack. On topic, this bloke in question very obvously has a serious problem, which has effected the lives of so many other people....He should be in jail now, where he can await his appeals & society is safe from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrtoad Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Mental hospital might be more appropriate though. Imagine the trouble this spoiled brat who can't control his temper is going to get himself into in jail. He'd better find himself a very large "friend" quickly. That's why he goes to jail, he's not mentally ill, and why should patients who have a mental illness have to suffer a spoiled little brat like this? Don't think for one moment that a Special Hospital (Forensic Mental Health) is soft. He has obviously been assesed by doctors, and the courts are satisfied that there is no evidence of mental illness. A guy like this, will need a friend wherever he goes, hosptial or prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swillowbee Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 . . . this psychopathic cretin will never see the inside of a jail cell . . . pathetic end of story. -- Resident Thailand 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaowong1 Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Mental hospital might be more appropriate though. Imagine the trouble this spoiled brat who can't control his temper is going to get himself into in jail. He'd better find himself a very large "friend" quickly. I remember this on tv. He's a little fat pretty boy who's going to meet many new friends in Jail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonGato Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Kanpitak's parents indicated he has a mental condition and he cannot control himself when he is under a lot of stress. A mental condition and a Mercedes Benz, great killing mix! Why not to give him a machine gun instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSnake Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 This BAD BOY is out on BAIL pending appeal, see front page of Saturday, 31 January 09 Bangkok Post, my guess is he will do little if any hard time. MONEY MONEY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patklang Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 This evill cretin has paid 6,000,000 baht bail money,in land deeds,proir to the appeal.we know what will happen now dont we,thai law stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Kanpitak's parents indicated he has a mental condition and he cannot control himself when he is under a lot of stress. -- The Nation 2009-01-30 This reminds me of another case some years back in Bangkok where a corrupt politician's son shot an undercover police officer and got away with it. The elite in Thailand have literally made real the old saying, "He could get away with murder." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmugFarangBore Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Kanpitak's parents indicated he has a mental condition and he cannot control himself when he is under a lot of stress. -- The Nation 2009-01-30 This reminds me of another case some years back in Bangkok where a corrupt politician's son shot an undercover police officer and got away with it. The elite in Thailand have literally made real the old saying, "He could get away with murder." Duangchalerm Yoobamrung. Son of the former Interior Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung. A more odious and unpleasant family you'd struggle to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Kanpitak's parents indicated he has a mental condition and he cannot control himself when he is under a lot of stress. -- The Nation 2009-01-30 This reminds me of another case some years back in Bangkok where a corrupt politician's son shot an undercover police officer and got away with it. The elite in Thailand have literally made real the old saying, "He could get away with murder." Duangchalerm Yoobamrung. Son of the former Interior Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung. A more odious and unpleasant family you'd struggle to find. And if the red brigade had their way Chalerm would be PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 Mental hospital might be more appropriate though. Imagine the trouble this spoiled brat who can't control his temper is going to get himself into in jail. He'd better find himself a very large "friend" quickly. I remember this on tv. He's a little fat pretty boy who's going to meet many new friends in Jail. No he won't as he won't see the inside of a jail. You must be new round here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmugFarangBore Posted February 1, 2009 Share Posted February 1, 2009 And if the red brigade had their way Chalerm would be PM. He's not even leader of the Pheu Thai so I fail to see how he would automatically become PM if they were to win an election. Please don't make the mistake of thinking that the red-shirts want to force an unelectable government on the people as the PAD have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Former Miss Thailand Sawinee Pachimsawas and Kan-anek, the parents of Kanpitak, whom police charged with premeditated murder after he allegedly drove his Benz into bus passengers, say in a press briefing yesterday that their son has an underlying disease. The Nation ================ yes, the disease is called StupidlyRichParentsWhoEnable-itis Reassuringly good to see that 6 months later, my diagnosis is confirmed... Just saw it on Thai TV. They said the court rejected that he was mentally unfit to stand trial, adding that this came from being a spoiled child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Front page of today's Nation says he's released in 5 mil bail. He is a danger to the public and should be in jail pending any appeal! and here's another criminal....convicted...of murder...and sentenced to death... and.... released on bail.... http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?s=...t&p=2504048 Death Sentence Given In Murder Of Environmentalist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I don't know if he is a 'danger' to society, provided he doesn't have a car or driver's license, or gun or knive. As long as he is out on appeal, I just don't want to meet up with him in any 'stressful' situation if he is armed. I'll take my chances as long as it only requires running away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sriracha john Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 (edited) This article never got posted in its entirety... Kantipak gets 10 years for car attack, out on bail The Criminal Court yesterday sentenced a young, aggressive driver to 10 years and one month in jail for slamming his Benz sedan into a crowd of people. Kanpitak Pachimsawas was also ordered to pay about 3 million baht compensation to three of his victims. Two years ago, his luxury vehicle ran over many victims. Of them, one died and two others received serious injuries. Kanpitak, now 22, flew into a road rage after a bus cut in front his sedan. The enraged man then forced the bus to stop, hit the bus driver with a rock, and then drove his car into a crowded bus stop. "There is no solid evidence to back up the defendant's claim that his mental-health problem led him into this violent action," the court said yesterday, "The defendant committed the crimes because he has been spoiled". *SJ diagnosis confirmation* Kanpitak is the son of businessman Kananek Pachimsawas and former beauty queen Savinee Pakaranang. His family has already paid some compensation to some of his victims. The compensation payout and Kanpitak's confession provided grounds for the court to commute his sentence from 15 years and two months in jail. The defendant was convicted of premediated murder, attempted murder, and injuring other people. The court also ordered Kanpitak to pay 2,158,000 baht compensation to Thongkham Luangsaeng, whose daughter died at the hands of Kanpitak. According to the court order, Kanpitak must also pay a combined 900,000 baht compensation to two seriously injured victims. One of them will get 800,000 baht. The compensation amount shall be subjected to 7.5 percent interest until the payment is made. Upon hearing the verdict, Kananek said his son would appeal against the verdict. Currently, the young man has already been released on 5 million baht bail. "My son is totally repentant," the father said, adding that his family had already paid a lot of compensation to the victims in the case. However, the husband of an injured victim felt the 800,000 baht compensation was in fact very small when compared with the huge grief suffered by his family. His wife's right leg was severely broken. She now walks with an uneven gait. During the past two years, she lost a monthly income of nearly 20,000 baht because her injuries included wounds on her back and arms that did not allow her to work. "She still needs regular physical therapy. But she rushed back to work earlier this month when she felt she was strong enough. We have two children together. We have to earn money to support them," the husband said. The man, who asked that his name be withheld, said he would consult a lawyer about what to do next. "From the very beginning, we believed my wife should get 2 million baht compensation," he said. - The Nation / January 31, 2009 Edited February 2, 2009 by sriracha john Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 As an aside, has the mother had her nose job taken out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animatic Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 So he confesses and pays restitution but WILL APPEAL the verdict... What hypocracy. The could have given him 15 years flat out. The whole point of the confession and deal is to get less time and live with that. Can't deal with a fair shake can he. Gonna be much more than 10 years pain for the families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeThePoster Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Does anyone know if his driving license has been revoked yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haltes Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 It was refreshingly different (and even surprising) to see the judge actually verbally chastise the parents for creating the spoilt, petulant brat who has not one iota of good breeding or even a scrap of understanding of what social responsibility is. It doesn’t take a giant leap of deductive reasoning to conclude that this is an instance where clearly contempt breeds contempt. Perhaps if his parents had dared to say “no” at some point during his upbringing, things might have been different and the tragedy averted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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