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Retirement Extension using the Pension letter.. total 800,000 per year [65,000 month]

With the present exchange rate there is a shortage of around 260,000

What advise can be given to a Single man aged 60 that has lived here 11 years, owns his own home etc..

Can he get a yearly Visa without having to travel all the way to the UK..? I have been looking for him at Perth as it is 5 hours away, but it appears unclear, there is a Post here dated 2008-09-17.... It is also unclear if this was for a SINGLE person

It would appear on other Posts that K.L. gives yearly Visas for married people ?? but only double entry Visa's for single ??

Please is there any Single people on here that use Perth for there yearly Visa Run ?

Posted

Are you using the combined income and deposit method already to reach the 800K mark. Or only the money in the bank option. For a lot of people it has helped them reach the 800K by doing the combined method.

There have been reports that Perth gives non-o visas even for those under 50 to visit friends,

Report here for Perth: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Non-Visa-Run...58#entry2222758

Posted
Are you using the combined income and deposit method already to reach the 800K mark. Or only the money in the bank option. For a lot of people it has helped them reach the 800K by doing the combined method.

There have been reports that Perth gives non-o visas even for those under 50 to visit friends,

Report here for Perth: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Non-Visa-Run...58#entry2222758

No he is using as I posted only 'Retirement Extension using the Pension letter'.....

As for 'Report here for Perth:' yes but this is some 2 years ago, was asking if anyone that is Single got a yearly Visa from Perth more resent..

Thankfully I have a fixed term account with the money here, off tomorrow to get my 5th yearly Extension.

Posted
You mentioned the 800K and 65K numbers so I guess I got a little confused.

This post from the topic I posted was posted the 9th of last month at 14:23.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?s=...t&p=2456217

Many thanks, yes but all the post talk about showing of gf i.d

My friend is single, has no girl/lady friend......... would they question him as to why he would want a '0' Visa? as he has been here 10 yrs on Extensions.

Posted

His should be even easier. The Perth consulate is an Honorary consulate so they are easy to deal with.

I think they would understand if he told them about his exchange rate problem.

Tell him to take his bank book along. Or his proof of income.

Posted
His should be even easier. The Perth consulate is an Honorary consulate so they are easy to deal with.

I think they would understand if he told them about hsis exchange rate problem.

Tell him to take his bank book along. Or his proof of income.

Many thanks, will pop and see him later

Posted

Remember, for a retirement extension the rule is:

800,000 in the bank

or

65,000 a month

or

a combination of income and money in the bank totaling 800,000. When using the combined option the money doesn't have to be in the bank for 3 months.

Posted
Remember, for a retirement extension the rule is:

800,000 in the bank

or

65,000 a month

or

a combination of income and money in the bank totaling 800,000. When using the combined option the money doesn't have to be in the bank for 3 months.

Would that mean that if you had an income of 300,000 and 500,000 in the bank, then the 500,000 doesn't need to be in the bank for 3 months?

Posted
Remember, for a retirement extension the rule is:

800,000 in the bank

or

65,000 a month

or

a combination of income and money in the bank totaling 800,000. When using the combined option the money doesn't have to be in the bank for 3 months.

Would that mean that if you had an income of 300,000 and 500,000 in the bank, then the 500,000 doesn't need to be in the bank for 3 months?

Yes. That is the way the rule is worded.

(5) Annual income plus bank account deposit totaling not less

than Baht 800,000 as of the filing date of application

Posted

This post is confusing since the OP is mixing retirement extensions with consulate in Perth. I thought the rule was:

extensions = Thai immigration in country

visa= overseas Embassies and Consulates

Posted
This post is confusing since the OP is mixing retirement extensions with consulate in Perth. I thought the rule was:

extensions = Thai immigration in country

visa= overseas Embassies and Consulates

Why is it confusing ?? The person I asked the question for has been here 11 years, 10 of those years on Extensions he uses the 'Proof of income' for the extensions..

The UK pound was always 70+ baht to 1 pound, now it is around 48 baht, so his 'proof of income' for the extension this time is not enough, so would be rather pointless going to try for another Extension...... so was asking if it was possible for this year [= 15months with 4 Boarder runs] to get a '0' Visa outside of Thailand without have to have that long trip to the UK + without the 'Proof of income' or the full 800k in the Bank.

Posted

So before going to visit him,

He can get a '0' 1yr Visa from Perth...... [good for 15 months with 4x 90day Boarder runs]

or can go to say K.L. or Valintine and get a Double entry Visa good for 90 days with 1x extension?

The above options he will NOT have to have 'Proof of income'

Is this correct please ?

Posted
So before going to visit him,

He can get a '0' 1yr Visa from Perth...... [good for 15 months with 4x 90day Boarder runs]

or can go to say K.L. or Valintine and get a Double entry Visa good for 90 days with 1x extension?

The above options he will NOT have to have 'Proof of income'

Is this correct please ?

Vientiane for a 2 entry tourist visa. KL will only do a single entry.

No proof needed. But good idea to take info to Perth just in case they ask. It does not have to be the full amount.

Posted
Remember, for a retirement extension the rule is:

800,000 in the bank

or

65,000 a month

or

a combination of income and money in the bank totaling 800,000. When using the combined option the money doesn't have to be in the bank for 3 months.

Would that mean that if you had an income of 300,000 and 500,000 in the bank, then the 500,000 doesn't need to be in the bank for 3 months?

Yes. That is the way the rule is worded.

(5) Annual income plus bank account deposit totaling not less

than Baht 800,000 as of the filing date of application

Excuse my curiosity, but would that imply that having 1000 baht income and 799,000 baht in the bank means the 799,000 doesn't need to be in the bank for 3 months? I'm just trying to understand how this thing is implemented and maybe give a few more people another option.

Posted

All right I went to the other TV thread cited and now see what you meant.

BUT, the US Embassy does not require proof of income for the letter. All they require is that you "swear" that the information in the income letter is correct.

I guess the question to be asked is what does the UK Embassy in Bangkok require? or what does the honorary British consul here in Pattaya require as far as proof of income ?

Which might be a good thread to pin by one of the experts:

Embassy income letter requirements

with the fluctuations in currency this would be a timely subject.

Posted
[Excuse my curiosity, but would that imply that having 1000 baht income and 799,000 baht in the bank means the 799,000 doesn't need to be in the bank for 3 months? I'm just trying to understand how this thing is implemented and maybe give a few more people another option.

That is correct.

Posted
[Excuse my curiosity, but would that imply that having 1000 baht income and 799,000 baht in the bank means the 799,000 doesn't need to be in the bank for 3 months? I'm just trying to understand how this thing is implemented and maybe give a few more people another option.

That is correct.

While you are correct Mario2008. I can see a few local Immigration Officers not agreeing with you. :o

Posted

Agree with you LB, but he was making an extreme example. An income of 1000 a year seems very low, but 1000 a month from interest on an account abroad.

Posted

Have the person in question borrow the additional funds required to put him over the 800,000 combined...just long enough to get the extension. Since in the combined scenario the bank deposit doesn't have to be "aged" 3 months, it is simpler to borrow to meet the requirements. It might be a matter of borrowing for less than a week.

Regards,

Martian

Posted

Just got back from renewing my own Extension so I am good till March 2010.........

very nice Lady so asked here about my friend, she said she could not advise but go to Valentine Loes and get a Double Multi Entry '0'... each good for 90 days, regards money in Bank not required but a good idea to show you have some to live on

Posted
Remember, for a retirement extension the rule is:

800,000 in the bank

or

65,000 a month

or

a combination of income and money in the bank totaling 800,000. When using the combined option the money doesn't have to be in the bank for 3 months.

Would that mean that if you had an income of 300,000 and 500,000 in the bank, then the 500,000 doesn't need to be in the bank for 3 months?

Yes. That is the way the rule is worded.

(5) Annual income plus bank account deposit totaling not less

than Baht 800,000 as of the filing date of application

I was just turned away at Chiangmai Immigration because bank money hadn't been here 2 months, using combo method!

There's a lot of misinformation spread here. Better to check directly with Immigration people.

darkstar

Posted
Remember, for a retirement extension the rule is:

800,000 in the bank

or

65,000 a month

or

a combination of income and money in the bank totaling 800,000. When using the combined option the money doesn't have to be in the bank for 3 months.

Would that mean that if you had an income of 300,000 and 500,000 in the bank, then the 500,000 doesn't need to be in the bank for 3 months?

Yes. That is the way the rule is worded.

(5) Annual income plus bank account deposit totaling not less

than Baht 800,000 as of the filing date of application

I was just turned away at Chiangmai Immigration because bank money hadn't been here 2 months, using combo method!

There's a lot of misinformation spread here. Better to check directly with Immigration people.

darkstar

As you can see in the rules, the money doesn't have to be there for 2 months. However, different officers and offices have their own interpretation of the rules.

Where you turned away at reception or by the immigration officer when you applied?

Posted
I was just turned away at Chiangmai Immigration because bank money hadn't been here 2 months, using combo method!

There's a lot of misinformation spread here. Better to check directly with Immigration people.

darkstar

Not misinformation. If Chiang Mai is not following the rules that is something new.

This is exactly what the police order states.

(5) Annual income plus bank account deposit totaling not less

than Baht 800,000 as of the filing date of application

You can find where we have often told people to check with their local office to see what is needed.

Posted

All members here can do is quote you the law. If Individual Immigration Offices/Officers choose to make up their own rules there is not a lot anyone can do.

Posted
Retirement Extension using the Pension letter.. total 800,000 per year [65,000 month]

With the present exchange rate there is a shortage of around 260,000

What advise can be given to a Single man aged 60 that has lived here 11 years, owns his own home etc..

Can he get a yearly Visa without having to travel all the way to the UK..? I have been looking for him at Perth as it is 5 hours away, but it appears unclear, there is a Post here dated 2008-09-17.... It is also unclear if this was for a SINGLE person

It would appear on other Posts that K.L. gives yearly Visas for married people ?? but only double entry Visa's for single ??

Please is there any Single people on here that use Perth for there yearly Visa Run ?

If - as you say - he has been in Thailand on Annual extensions for Retirement for 11 years ...

Then he should only Require Bht 200,000 in a Bank account - same as me

Bill

Posted

You got that wrong. He has been in Thailand for 11 years but nobody says that these 11 years he was on a retirement extension. Anyway, being 60 years old now he would not have qualified for the retirement extension 11 year ago, at the age of 49.

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Maestro

The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place. — George Bernard Shaw

 

Posted
You got that wrong. He has been in Thailand for 11 years but nobody says that these 11 years he was on a retirement extension. Anyway, being 60 years old now he would not have qualified for the retirement extension 11 year ago, at the age of 49.

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Maestro

Yes Correct, 11 yrs ago retirement Visa was for over 55's........ I remember he told me he was on the 400,000 in the Bank, somehow this got changed to 800,000 in 2004..

Maybe it was because in 2004 he started getting a Pension and changed to monthly pension route instead of money in the Bank...

I feel sure when I came here in 2003 it was 400k, but on my 1st extension in March 2004 it was 800k.. Thankfully I brought money into Thailand.. at the time the exchange rate was 76baht to 1 UK Pound, and put the 800,000 into a Timed Deposit Account until 2013 at a very good rate.

Posted
You got that wrong. He has been in Thailand for 11 years but nobody says that these 11 years he was on a retirement extension. Anyway, being 60 years old now he would not have qualified for the retirement extension 11 year ago, at the age of 49.

--

Maestro

Yes Correct, 11 yrs ago retirement Visa was for over 55's........ I remember he told me he was on the 400,000 in the Bank, somehow this got changed to 800,000 in 2004..

Maybe it was because in 2004 he started getting a Pension and changed to monthly pension route instead of money in the Bank...

I feel sure when I came here in 2003 it was 400k, but on my 1st extension in March 2004 it was 800k.. Thankfully I brought money into Thailand.. at the time the exchange rate was 76baht to 1 UK Pound, and put the 800,000 into a Timed Deposit Account until 2013 at a very good rate.

Whether he qualifies for 400k will depend on how long he has had a continuous retirement extension.

I dont think it matters whether in the past he used income or deposit.

He should check with Immigration whether he qualifies for Bht 400k deposit.

Whatever the situation - I would suggest he explores all avenues before starting over with a new visa.

He should try to continue with his present extension so as not to lose its current benefits in the future.

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