Anyone Familair With Lemurs?

[SoiGirlHunter]

I held a Lemur for 10 mins and dam_n they are the cutest dam_n animal. Thinking about getting one.

Can they be bought in Pattaya?

How much?

Easy to care for? Feed?

The one I held was small, how big do they get?

Thanks

SGH

[eyebee]

I don't think it was a lemur you held as they can only be found in Madagascar and are endangered. If you were in Walking Street it was probably a Slow Loris that you had. See this website for details. I understand that they are well drugged-up by their owners when posing for the tourists on Walking Street, and I personally wouldn't want to encourage them. I don't know the legality of owning them, but if you really wanted one I guess you could find them for sale at Chatuchak market in Bangkok.

[pattaya_girl]

I have two of the Slow Loris Wide Eyes Monkeys. Had them for over 7 years.

I bought mine in Pattaya but have not seen any for sale since, maybe you can get them in BKK.

My advise if your serious, buy a Female. If you do a search on Google, you can see Photos of them, they live about 15 years, are nocturnal, and eat almost anything ranging from Fruit, spiders, french fries, they love Macaroni....

[SoiGirlHunter]

OK thanks for the info

Pattaya girl, are they friendly?

[pattaya_girl]

Hi.

When they are babies they are very friendly yes, but when they mature, they have a strong jaw and can bite hard - They are lovely pets but they cling onto anything and everything very very strong.

Mine are in cages, and seperate, as they fight eachother sometimes (two females). They are ok if you dont try to pick them up, you can stoke and play with them, but if you try to pull them off whatever they are clinging onto, they will bite.

A few years ago, someone didnt close the cage door properly, and one got out, beleive it or not, 7 weeks later she appeared again, so she must have known her way to my house, i have no diea where she had been but she looked very healthy.

These animals are very very slow, they move around very slowly.

They absolutely adore the deep fried Grasshoppers and insects bought from those sidestalls.

If you want to know anything, just ask and let me know if you get one ok. byee.

[goldfish]

In Japan, a slow loris will cost you between $1,500 and $4,500; but that conceals the real cost of the pet trade, measured in ripped fingers, bloody mouths, and babies unable to clean up their own defecation.

"They'll pull out its teeth so the vendor can say it's a baby," recounts Anna Nekaris, a loris specialist based at Oxford Brookes University in the UK.

"They're kept in wire cages; and because of the special network of blood vessels they have, when they're pulled out of the cages it cuts their hands and feet."

Domestic trade is prevented under law in all the range states, yet it's widespread and carried out in an open manner which points to a need for better domestic enforcement

Babies separated from their parents are unable to clean themselves. Their fur becomes caked with urine, faeces and oily skin secretions; a large proportion (between 30% and 90%) die in transit.

Cut and paste from here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6731631.stm

May I suggest getting a dog, or some other domesticated pet, rather than taking an endangered species from the wild

[rak sa_ngop]

I used to have a white rat that was very cute and affectionate. Surely anything small and furry (and not endangered) would do???

[phaethon]

...and eat almost anything ranging from Fruit, spiders, french fries, they love Macaroni....

So pretty much farang food (apart from the fruit)...

seriously, I wouldn't want to get involved in the pet trade in LOS, it's horribly unregulated and lorises and the like will almost certainly have been poached.

^ Ring-tailed Lemur

^Slow Loris

(The one you saw, if it was a loris, may have been a juvenile or a pygmy species. I wouldn't rule put the possibility that someone had obtained a lemur though for street entertainment, maybe stolen from a zoo )

Edited March 17, 2009 by phaethon

[sriracha john]

Edited March 17, 2009 by sriracha john

[Nignoy]

...and eat almost anything ranging from Fruit, spiders, french fries, they love Macaroni....

So pretty much farang food (apart from the fruit)...

seriously, I wouldn't want to get involved in the pet trade in LOS, it's horribly unregulated and lorises and the like will almost certainly have been poached.

^ Ring-tailed Lemur

^Slow Loris

(The one you saw, if it was a loris, may have been a juvenile or a pygmy species. I wouldn't rule put the possibility that someone had obtained a lemur though for street entertainment, maybe stolen from a zoo )

Ringtail lemurs are readily available for sale in Exotic Animal Trade Circles, Firstly they are not stolen from the wilds and they ae captive bred in zoos and parks all over the world!!There is an excess of captive bred males, that is why many smaller zoo,s only have groups of males on display, captive bred females of pure blood stock are rare as rocking horse shit, most females are registered world wide, sadly most males are given the snip before sales, not advisable as a pet ,they are happier in large groups and have a short lifeon their own

[pattaya_girl]

My two ladies are 7 years old now, and VERY happy - a lot happier than the ones I see at the Zoo's. They have a nice life, with good delicious food, and they are well looked after and given clean bedding every day.

[SoiGirlHunter]

OK thanks,

hmmm maybe i will just get a mia noi and put mia in cage hmmm

[male]

Very cute animal

Can you teach them to use the toilet, like a cat or a dog? Is it legal to keep one as a pet in Thailand? How much do they cost?

Thanks

[stevoo]

surely you can find a more humane way to impress the girls, these are not domesticated animals and the trade in "exotic" pets should not be encouraged

[Jareddiving]

<br />My two ladies are 7 years old now, and VERY happy - a lot happier than the ones I see at the Zoo's. They have a nice life, with good delicious food, and they are well looked after and given clean bedding every day.<br />

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They don't belong in a cage

[pattaya_girl]

Very cute animal

Can you teach them to use the toilet, like a cat or a dog? Is it legal to keep one as a pet in Thailand? How much do they cost?

Thanks

Cannot teach them to use the toilet no, but they dont do a lot anyway !! Not sure of the Legal side of owning them. I bought mine 7 years ago and they were about 5 Thousand Baht each.

Mine are caged, same as all the ones I have seen at the Zoo's - far better than the poor ones seen down Walking Street dressed in stupid clothes.

[phaethon]

My two ladies are 7 years old now, and VERY happy - a lot happier than the ones I see at the Zoo's. They have a nice life, with good delicious food, and they are well looked after and given clean bedding every day.

You are talking about Lorises aren't you? They are, more or less, solitary; it's the lemurs that suffer if isolated from a large (family) group.

[pattaya_girl]

My two ladies are 7 years old now, and VERY happy - a lot happier than the ones I see at the Zoo's. They have a nice life, with good delicious food, and they are well looked after and given clean bedding every day.

You are talking about Lorises aren't you? They are, more or less, solitary; it's the lemurs that suffer if isolated from a large (family) group.

Yes Phaethon, Slow Loris..

[IanForbes]

dam_n, I could have sworn a slow lori was one of those over packed vehicles driving around the roads of Thailand.

[sriracha john]

[phaethon]

Edited March 19, 2009 by phaethon

[LtCol]

Thought that 5 years or so ago , it was deemed illegal for private ownership without a special Zoological exemption???

Shouldn't be in a little cage , IMO

[phaethon]

The OP is in good (or not) company - in yesterday's Bangkok Post there was a small article about trading in lemurs in Indonesia, and guess what the picture of a lemur being offered for sale on a Jakarta street actually was...? Yup, a slow loris.

Can't find the item in the online version though.

[asiancup2007]

Anyone who would choose to keep one of these animals as a pet is supporting the illegal trade of these animals.

Go to a shelter and get a dog or a cat and while you're there get a clue.

"My two ladies are 7 years old now, and VERY happy - a lot happier than the ones I see at the Zoo's. They have a nice life, with good delicious food, and they are well looked after and given clean bedding every day"

Trouble is yours most probably were poached and didn't come from a zoo. You should compare their life now in a cage to a life spent in treetops where they belong. Their diet consists insects, birds, eggs, lizards fruit and soft leaves no mention of french fries or macaroni. Statistics on slow Loris suicide rates when held captive by women wanting surrogate children aren't currently available but are believed to be high.

[pattaya_girl]

Anyone who would choose to keep one of these animals as a pet is supporting the illegal trade of these animals.

Go to a shelter and get a dog or a cat and while you're there get a clue.

"My two ladies are 7 years old now, and VERY happy - a lot happier than the ones I see at the Zoo's. They have a nice life, with good delicious food, and they are well looked after and given clean bedding every day"

Trouble is yours most probably were poached and didn't come from a zoo. You should compare their life now in a cage to a life spent in treetops where they belong. Their diet consists insects, birds, eggs, lizards fruit and soft leaves no mention of french fries or macaroni. Statistics on slow Loris suicide rates when held captive by women wanting surrogate children aren't currently available but are believed to be high.

Yawn !!!

[Nignoy]

Anyone who would choose to keep one of these animals as a pet is supporting the illegal trade of these animals.

Go to a shelter and get a dog or a cat and while you're there get a clue.

"My two ladies are 7 years old now, and VERY happy - a lot happier than the ones I see at the Zoo's. They have a nice life, with good delicious food, and they are well looked after and given clean bedding every day"

Trouble is yours most probably were poached and didn't come from a zoo. You should compare their life now in a cage to a life spent in treetops where they belong. Their diet consists insects, birds, eggs, lizards fruit and soft leaves no mention of french fries or macaroni. Statistics on slow Loris suicide rates when held captive by women wanting surrogate children aren't currently available but are believed to be high.

The care of exotics should be left to trained professionals, Like the keepers at Melbourne Zoo who love their Gorillas so much they even let a full grown male out for awalk luckily a passing vet had a tranquiliser dart and a bunch of bananas tocatch the escapee

[asiancup2007]

I'm guessing there's a couple of couple of Loris

in Pattaya that get to eat French fries every night.

Edited April 16, 2009 by asiancup2007

[hanno]

Lories are under intense threat in SE Asia, do not abet the wildlife trade buy buying those (or indeed any other wild animal; this does NOT apply to Thai girlfriends, though you get one of those at your own risk )

[pattaya_girl]

I'm guessing there's a couple of couple of Loris

in Pattaya that get to eat French fries every night.

Yes and they love them - better to be with me taking care of them than down walking street being made to pose for the camera, dressed in stupid clothes.

If i had not bought them 7 years ago, i dread to think what sort of a life they would have had by now, especialy being in Pattaya, where people dont seem to care much for animals.

[hanno]

If i had not bought them 7 years ago

But that is the problem: people that think like you encourage the illegal wildlife trade. And no matter how you treat them, animals belong in the wild.

"Guv'nor, I only bought the 10 kilos of Heroin to get it off the street" is no valid defense.