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Errr.... it is a proven fact that corruption was much less during the Thaksin era, than it was before it.

I see it's time to re-post reminders yet again:

Seems like we've been down this same road before... when the question,"Was Thaksin More Corrupt Than Previous Governments?" was asked 2 Christmases ago... but the answer is still the same...

Thailand’s Auditor-General Khunying Jaruwan stated that corruption of every sort exists at unprecedented levels under the present administration.

- The Nation / Nov 14, 2004

(said whilst Thaksin was the "present administration" and before he really took it up several notches to even higher "unprecedented" levels).

SJ, was that not the same Auditor-General, whom Thaksin/TRT allegedly had locked-out from her own office for a couple of years while they tried to replace her, because she was too successful at finding corruption and inconvenient situations to investigate ?

One and the same.... he didn't like an Auditor-General that actually did audits.

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Yes, yesterday was the D-Day and the final victory with 1.000.000 protestors.

Today at 16.00 the ultimatum for the privy council and Abhisit to remove themself.

So this evening will be the final last D-Day and the last final ultimate ultimatum.

And tomorrow everyone will go home to come again in May with 10.000.000 protestors and the last final last D-Day and the final last final ultimate ultimatum for the Privy council and Abhisit.....

Any forecast for June? Maybe a mass demonstration would be something new.....

The problem with the Reds is they are just so bl**dy lazy, they just stole the blueprint of the Yellows action plan, just changed the venue and a few names. On the other hand it was approved by the current government and it did work ...

But as people say imitation is the best form of flattery, you guys should really be proud of the last days' events :o:D ...

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Mum tells UDD leader: Stop it

By: BangkokPost.com

Published: 9/04/2009 at 10:42 AM

The elderly mother of United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) leader and opposition Puea Thai MP Jatuporn Prompan has told him to stop damaging the country.

Nuam Buakaew, aged 90, called on Mr Jatuporn to stop protesting against the government and to stop criticising Privy Council president and Statesman Prem Tinsulanonda from the UDD stage.

Mrs Nuam said her son's activities made her feel uncomfortable because she feared he was causing harm to the country.

Mr Jatuporn's mother, who lives in the southern province of Surat Thani, said she had tried to phone her son, but he never answered or called her back.

"I would like my son to stop what he is doing now, because I am worried about his actions," Mrs Nuam said.

Source - http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/14...-leader-stop-it

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Mum tells UDD leader: Stop it

By: BangkokPost.com

Published: 9/04/2009 at 10:42 AM

The elderly mother of United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) leader and opposition Puea Thai MP Jatuporn Prompan has told him to stop damaging the country.

Nuam Buakaew, aged 90, called on Mr Jatuporn to stop protesting against the government and to stop criticising Privy Council president and Statesman Prem Tinsulanonda from the UDD stage.

Mrs Nuam said her son's activities made her feel uncomfortable because she feared he was causing harm to the country.

Mr Jatuporn's mother, who lives in the southern province of Surat Thani, said she had tried to phone her son, but he never answered or called her back.

"I would like my son to stop what he is doing now, because I am worried about his actions," Mrs Nuam said.

Source - http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/14...-leader-stop-it

Ok, now that is my kind of woman! :D:o

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Mum tells UDD leader: Stop it

The elderly mother of United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) leader and opposition Puea Thai MP Jatuporn Prompan has told him to stop damaging the country.

Mrs Nuam said her son's activities made her feel uncomfortable because she feared he was causing harm to the country.

and coming from his 90 year-old mother.... that's just too precious... :D

Mr Jatuporn's mother said she had tried to phone her son, but he never answered or called her back.

hmmm... he's not a very good human being on even more levels now.... :D:o

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Mum tells UDD leader: Stop it

The elderly mother of United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) leader and opposition Puea Thai MP Jatuporn Prompan has told him to stop damaging the country.

Mrs Nuam said her son's activities made her feel uncomfortable because she feared he was causing harm to the country.

and coming from his 90 year-old mother.... that's just too precious... :D

Mr Jatuporn's mother said she had tried to phone her son, but he never answered or called her back.

hmmm... he's not a very good human being on even more levels now.... :D:o

My wife told me that Jatuporn can't go to his hometown Surat since a long time. As people there hate him that much, that he is not sure if someone might kill him. And this is since long before the protests.

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Somebody tell me! How does speaking good English has anything to do with managing the Country? :o

If you really do not know the answer to your question, then I'm afraid you couldn't understand the answer were someone to give it to you.

That goes for English or any language of that particular land. Its called being able to properly communicate.

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Somebody tell me! How does speaking good English has anything to do with managing the Country? :D

If you really do not know the answer to your question, then I'm afraid you couldn't understand the answer were someone to give it to you.

That goes for English or any language of that particular land. Its called being able to properly communicate.

I don't think you really get the question. :o

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Somebody tell me! How does speaking good English has anything to do with managing the Country? :D

If you really do not know the answer to your question, then I'm afraid you couldn't understand the answer were someone to give it to you.

That goes for English or any language of that particular land. Its called being able to properly communicate.

I don't think you really get the question. :o

I don't think you're communicating effectively.

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Somebody tell me! How does speaking good English has anything to do with managing the Country? :D

If you really do not know the answer to your question, then I'm afraid you couldn't understand the answer were someone to give it to you.

That goes for English or any language of that particular land. Its called being able to properly communicate.

I don't think you really get the question. :o

I don't think you're communicating effectively.

Then I'll cancel Hard Talk

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At this stage please note the only offence Thaksin is convicted of is his wife buying some land......if thats an offence. Nothing else has been charged with. The idiots and liars who quote "tax evasion" are idiots, the law of the land was adhered to, he broke no laws. Many tax loopholes exist in many countries and politicians and rich use them often, this may be morally wrong, but its not illegal.
Nothing else has been charged with.

That's just not true now is it? He has been charged with a number of other offences, only he is not here for the proceedings to go ahead.

How many warrants does he have out for his arrest?

Being "charged" and being "convicted" are two different things.

The one conviction they knew they could get, that of being his wife buying land, they went for first.

Much of the other "charges" are all down to "spoken testimony" of people, that took two years to get hold of, for some reason. They are pretty flimsy and appear to some people to be totally "false allegations and testimony" which was the reason Thaksin fled as he said "I cannot get a fair trial".

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For those interested in a first hand report on yesterday's rally it is now posted on my blog.

If anyone wishes to dispute the attendance figure then I suggest they get off their bums and go to the protest site rather than relying on reports from people who stood at one spot.

A photo compilation will be posted this afternoon.

JLF

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At this stage please note the only offence Thaksin is convicted of is his wife buying some land......if thats an offence. Nothing else has been charged with. The idiots and liars who quote "tax evasion" are idiots, the law of the land was adhered to, he broke no laws. Many tax loopholes exist in many countries and politicians and rich use them often, this may be morally wrong, but its not illegal.
Nothing else has been charged with.

That's just not true now is it? He has been charged with a number of other offences, only he is not here for the proceedings to go ahead.

How many warrants does he have out for his arrest?

Being "charged" and being "convicted" are two different things.

The one conviction they knew they could get, that of being his wife buying land, they went for first.

Much of the other "charges" are all down to "spoken testimony" of people, that took two years to get hold of, for some reason. They are pretty flimsy and appear to some people to be totally "false allegations and testimony" which was the reason Thaksin fled as he said "I cannot get a fair trial".

You have demonstrated in your earlier posts that you don't have a <snip> clue about anything else, so how would you have a <snip> clue on what evidence they may or may not have on Thaksin?

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Haven't been following the discussion, so maybe this has already been asked.

So when/if elections are called again and the newest reincarnation of Thai Rak Thai wins again (I believe they will), what then? Does Thailand just repeat the cycle again of coup or court intervention? How long does that nonsense go on before elections are just abandoned and Thailand officially becomes an oligarchy?

Not looking for a flame, it's an honest question

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At this stage please note the only offence Thaksin is convicted of is his wife buying some land......if thats an offence. Nothing else has been charged with. The idiots and liars who quote "tax evasion" are idiots, the law of the land was adhered to, he broke no laws. Many tax loopholes exist in many countries and politicians and rich use them often, this may be morally wrong, but its not illegal.
Nothing else has been charged with.

That's just not true now is it? He has been charged with a number of other offences, only he is not here for the proceedings to go ahead.

How many warrants does he have out for his arrest?

Being "charged" and being "convicted" are two different things.

The one conviction they knew they could get, that of being his wife buying land, they went for first.

Much of the other "charges" are all down to "spoken testimony" of people, that took two years to get hold of, for some reason. They are pretty flimsy and appear to some people to be totally "false allegations and testimony" which was the reason Thaksin fled as he said "I cannot get a fair trial".

Come on! Even I have enough evidence from my business life to get him convicted in a normal country.

There are thousands of cases alone with the airport everything well known with thousands of people know about it.

(not that is uncommon in SE Asia)

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Somebody tell me! How does speaking good English has anything to do with managing the Country? :D

If you really do not know the answer to your question, then I'm afraid you couldn't understand the answer were someone to give it to you.

That goes for English or any language of that particular land. Its called being able to properly communicate.

:D

maybe, just maybe it has to do with some proper education as well, ahhh well......! :o

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Haven't been following the discussion, so maybe this has already been asked.

So when/if elections are called again and the newest reincarnation of Thai Rak Thai wins again (I believe they will), what then? Does Thailand just repeat the cycle again of coup or court intervention? How long does that nonsense go on before elections are just abandoned and Thailand officially becomes an oligarchy?

Not looking for a flame, it's an honest question

TRT 3rd edition will do massive vote buying again, they will be dissolved again.

You can think about it: Why didn't they try to win elections a legal way, if so many people love them?

On the last election the Democrats had nearly as many votes as TRT 2nd edition without vote buying...

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Somebody tell me! How does speaking good English has anything to do with managing the Country? :D

If you really do not know the answer to your question, then I'm afraid you couldn't understand the answer were someone to give it to you.

That goes for English or any language of that particular land. Its called being able to properly communicate.

:D

maybe, just maybe it has to do with some proper education as well, ahhh well......! :o

Well Thaksin studied Crime and he is really good at this.

What did Samak and Somchai study?

And not to forget what did Chalerm learn in his early life?

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For those interested in a first hand report on yesterday's rally it is now posted at

If anyone wishes to dispute the attendance figure then I suggest they get off their bums and go to the protest site rather than relying on reports from people who stood at one spot.

A photo compilation will be posted this afternoon.

JLF

I am not disputing your number, but before I get off my bum to do a headcount, perhaps you would be good enough to explain how you arrived at your conclusive number (not estimate) of "more than 150,000" in the body of your blog, or "hundreds of thousands" in your headline?

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Haven't been following the discussion, so maybe this has already been asked.

So when/if elections are called again and the newest reincarnation of Thai Rak Thai wins again (I believe they will), what then? Does Thailand just repeat the cycle again of coup or court intervention? How long does that nonsense go on before elections are just abandoned and Thailand officially becomes an oligarchy?

Not looking for a flame, it's an honest question

TRT 3rd edition will do massive vote buying again, they will be dissolved again.

You can think about it: Why didn't they try to win elections a legal way, if so many people love them?

On the last election the Democrats had nearly as many votes as TRT 2nd edition without vote buying...

And then what? Another election/dissolution, then another then another?

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Somebody tell me! How does speaking good English has anything to do with managing the Country? :o

Other than the fact most all international governmental interaction and business dealings

is in English these days...?

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Somebody tell me! How does speaking good English has anything to do with managing the Country? :o

Other than the fact most all international governmental interaction and business dealings

is in English these days...?

Managing a country can be done in the language of that country pretty well .....

And no many business dealings are not done in English, they are done in French, German, Spanish, Arabic, Chinese and many other languages as well.

Chinese (Mandarin) will probably become an important language in the future ...

But lets get back on topic!

W

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Haven't been following the discussion, so maybe this has already been asked.

So when/if elections are called again and the newest reincarnation of Thai Rak Thai wins again (I believe they will), what then? Does Thailand just repeat the cycle again of coup or court intervention? How long does that nonsense go on before elections are just abandoned and Thailand officially becomes an oligarchy?

Not looking for a flame, it's an honest question

TRT 3rd edition will do massive vote buying again, they will be dissolved again.

You can think about it: Why didn't they try to win elections a legal way, if so many people love them?

On the last election the Democrats had nearly as many votes as TRT 2nd edition without vote buying...

And then what? Another election/dissolution, then another then another?

It would be smarter to make the punishment harder and also for people who take money.

But as I don't have hope that a harder constitution will come, election+dissolution of the wrongdoers is the only option in a democracy.

Maybe after a while the vote buying will be reduced out of fear of dissolution.

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Somebody tell me! How does speaking good English has anything to do with managing the Country? :o

Other than the fact most all international governmental interaction and business dealings

is in English these days...?

Managing a country can be done in the language of that country pretty well .....

And no many business dealings are not done in English, they are done in French, German, Spanish, Arabic, Chinese and many other languages as well.

Chinese (Mandarin) will probably become an important language in the future ...

But lets get back on topic!

W

You aren't doing business, or?

English is the business language and all the companies, even very small one who do some international business do it in english.

German and French speak English together and Chinese and Japanese speak English together.

My Thai/Chinese wife is speaking English with our Chinese/Singapore supplier!

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I have been watching the Telly this morning and was thinking about all that was being said (I can understand Thai at a reasonable level) ....

I noticed that there were fewer protesters on the streets than yesterday. So I feel they are running out of steam already.

Basically the only hope the reds have is to force a decisive action today at the latest. If it drags on to tomorrow and they want to move to Pattaya they will not be able to gather enough people as most will want to go home for Songkran.

So unless they can force something today I feel they will loose this round.

Waerth

PS)This is just my opinion, disagree with it if you want, but do not flame me ... thx

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Haven't been following the discussion, so maybe this has already been asked.

So when/if elections are called again and the newest reincarnation of Thai Rak Thai wins again (I believe they will), what then? Does Thailand just repeat the cycle again of coup or court intervention? How long does that nonsense go on before elections are just abandoned and Thailand officially becomes an oligarchy?

Not looking for a flame, it's an honest question

TRT 3rd edition will do massive vote buying again, they will be dissolved again.

You can think about it: Why didn't they try to win elections a legal way, if so many people love them?

On the last election the Democrats had nearly as many votes as TRT 2nd edition without vote buying...

And then what? Another election/dissolution, then another then another?

It would be smarter to make the punishment harder and also for people who take money.

But as I don't have hope that a harder constitution will come, election+dissolution of the wrongdoers is the only option in a democracy.

Maybe after a while the vote buying will be reduced out of fear of dissolution.

If it is the only option in a democracy, why don't other democracies do it? If you are waiting for a perfect election, free of any irregularities, you're going to be waiting a long time. The whole election/coup/dissolution pattern...well, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, smells like a duck, it's a duck.

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From Bangkok Post:

Sanan aide sought over Charnchai plot

Police confident of arresting mastermind

By: WASSAYOS NGAMKHAM

Published: 9/04/2009 at 12:00 AM

Newspaper section: News

The Criminal Court has issued an arrest warrant for a close aide to Deputy Prime Minister Sanan Kachornprasart over accusations he masterminded the alleged assassination attempt on privy councillor Charnchai Likitjitta.

Suspects in the alleged plot to assassinate privy councillor Charnchai Likitjitta at a news conference Thursday. From left, suspected gunman Sakchai sae Lim, Panupong Ratanapaiboon, Kamik Sukkanchanakas and Maj Thienchai Muangjanthuek

Police sources said two warrants were issued yesterday - one for Chakkrit Sekhanant, Maj Gen Sanan's close aide, and a man identified only as "Jack", who allegedly served as a go-between in the alleged assassination attempt.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/1475...-charnchai-plot

So the Elites are prepared to assassinate a privy councillor and then make it look as though the red shirts are the guilty ones?

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